Update on Standards and CSS in IE7

brajesh writes "Chris Wilson has posted on IEBlog about the Standards and CSS in IE7. According to the post, "In IE7, we will fix as many of the worst bugs that web developers hit as we can, and we will add the critical most-requested features from the standards as well. Though you won't see (most of) these until Beta 2". Further,"we will not pass this (Acid2 browse) test when IE7 ships.""

Comments

Re:fix schmix

[taskforce]

This was with reference to CSS standards and web development, not exploitable vulnerabilities in the browser's security.

Re:Firefox is compliant?

[TheRaven64]

Konqueror, I believe, passes ACID2. Safari does in CVS, but the release version doesn't. Not sure about Opera.

To be honest, ACID2 isn't that important - it tests some extreme corner cases in CSS usage. If you are 100% CSS compliant then it should work, but if you are 80% compliant then there are more important things to implement than passing ACID2.

Re:Bash

[BackInIraq]

Funny how quickly the MS bashing begins, yet when I just tried the Acid2 test with Firefox (my browser of choice btw), the results were far from impressive. And correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know Acid2 isn't an officially accepted standard, it's a *proposed* standard.

Acid2 is a test of the CSS standard, not the standard itself. And no, Firefox doesn't pass. But the Firefox team has made it a goal TO pass, unlike the IE team which has apparently said, "screw it, we're not going to waste our time just to pass that." IE is shooting for "good enough."

Considering the amount of money Microsoft could theoretically pump into development on the next version of IE, wouldn't it make more sense for them to be the first to pass the test (and by doing so provide implied compliance with the standard)?

Re:just give up

[baadger]

Not trying to be an Opera zealot but I think those interested should take a quick peak at how Opera is fairing behind the scenes.

Opera Acid2 as of today and the forum post accompanying the attachment:

"Opera's developers have been working hard on getting the Acid2 test right. Most of the work is being done on a new branch of the core Opera code. This code branch is not ready for public consumption yet. So rejoice to see the progress, but don't expect to see this coming to a computer near you in the near future.
I will explain some of the fixes done so far over the next couple of weeks. Note that regression testing is still being done, and some fixes might have to be reverted if it turns out important sites rely on the old behavior."

Good news for Opera users.

List of bugs to be fixed in IE7 (beta2)

[Spy der Mann]

from TFA:

Though you won't see (most of) these until Beta 2, we have already fixed the following bugs from PositionIsEverything and Quirksmode:

        * Peekaboo bug
        * Guillotine bug
        * Duplicate Character bug
        * Border Chaos
        * No Scroll bug
        * 3 Pixel Text Jog
        * Magic Creeping Text bug
        * Bottom Margin bug on Hover
        * Losing the ability to highlight text under the top border
        * IE/Win Line-height bug
        * Double Float Margin Bug
        * Quirky Percentages in IE
        * Duplicate indent
        * Moving viewport scrollbar outside HTML borders
        * 1 px border style
        * Disappearing List-background
        * Fix width:auto

In addition we've added support for the following

        * HTML 4.01 ABBR tag
        * Improved (though not yet perfect) fallback
        * CSS 2.1 Selector support (child, adjacent, attribute, first-child etc.)
        * CSS 2.1 Fixed positioning
        * Alpha channel in PNG images
        * Fix :hover on all elements
        * Background-attachment: fixed on all elements not just body

(/snip)

So I think that sums most of 'em.

And look, if IE6 fails miserably the ACID2 test, i'm really hoping we'll see a yellow blurb at least in IE7 (right now it's like a red wall with some pieces of slaughtered yellow-face in there).

In firefox we don't see the face, but at least we can see a nice yellow thing with wierd not-intended-to-be sunglasses on... kinda.

So I'm quite curious how the ACID2 will render in IE7...