Metroid Prime 3 Explored

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Posted by Zonk on Thursday August 4, 2005 @02:13AM from the daily-recommended-samus-intake dept.

mybrainonfire writes "There's an interview with the creators of the Metroid Prime series over on 1UP, and they talk about making the next game for Revolution. From the article: 'Metroid Prime 3 itself will reportedly take advantage of a number of new features in the Revolution, including the controller... Metroid Prime 3 will continue the first-person action adventure the series has become known for, and there are no plans to add a third-person viewpoint outside of the morph ball.'"

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Still 1st-person? by BlackCobra43 · 2005-08-04 02:15 · Score: 4, Interesting

Am I the only one longing for the olden days of 3rd-person, sidescrolling Metroids ? Even a 3d, 3rd-person platformer would please me more than a generic FPS, no matter how well done the first two were (which is debatable).

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1. Re:Still 1st-person? by rylin · 2005-08-04 02:16 · Score: 1
  
  Have a go at Viewtiful Joe.
  I enjoyed it a lot.
2. Re:Still 1st-person? by justforaday · 2005-08-04 02:18 · Score: 1
  
  Am I the only one longing for the olden days of 3rd-person, sidescrolling Metroids?
  
  Metroid Fusion and Metroid Zero Mission. Nuff said...
  
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3. Re:Still 1st-person? by BlackCobra43 · 2005-08-04 02:20 · Score: 2, Interesting
  
  Come on, are you honestly telling me sidescrollers should only appear on handhelds? I don't own a DS/GBA nor do I plan to.
  
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4. Re:Still 1st-person? by Lobosch · 2005-08-04 02:38 · Score: 1
  
  Hm, how about this:
  
  http://www.nintendo.com/systemsgbplayer/
5. Re:Still 1st-person? by Apreche · 2005-08-04 02:39 · Score: 1
  
  Well, you get your side scrolling metroids on the GBA and the DS. And have no doubt you will be able to download some on the revolution. They aren't gone.
  
  And while Metroid:Prime is first person and has shooting it is nothing like what is usually considered an FPS (quake, half-life). It's more an exmploration and puzzle solving game than a shooter. Especially in Prime 2 where there is a lot less morph ball action.
  
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6. Re:Still 1st-person? by justforaday · 2005-08-04 02:41 · Score: 1
  
  Pick up a GameBoy Player and the games on ebay. Total should run you about 35-40 bucks. Worth it for two great games.
  
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7. Re:Still 1st-person? by Funk_dat69 · 2005-08-04 02:48 · Score: 1
  
  Gimme a break.
  
  Metroid Prime 1 and 2 were almost universally hailed as excellent games. Metroid Prime made IGN's list of 100 best games of all time. They are FAR from generic FPS.
  
  Maybe try PLAYING it, before you knock it. Both games recreate the feeling of the originals exceptionally well, this coming from a huge fan of the 2d games.
  
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8. Re:Still 1st-person? by clu76 · 2005-08-04 02:58 · Score: 1
  
  If it's sidescrollers you want, then maybe you shouldn't shun the major sidescroller platforms.
  
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9. Re:Still 1st-person? by Momoru · 2005-08-04 03:01 · Score: 1
  
  Kids these days don't appreciate sidescrollers on consolew. They won't be made because you gotta have "awesome 3d graphics" and "100% realism" and what not these days to supposedly sell a game.
10. Re:Still 1st-person? by cornface · 2005-08-04 03:07 · Score: 0
  
  Have a go at Viewtiful Joe.
  I enjoyed it a lot.
  
  . . . Don't you know?
  
  Sorry, it seemed unfinished the way you left it.
11. Re:Still 1st-person? by ZakuSage · 2005-08-04 03:09 · Score: 1
  
  Obviously he doesn't agree that it was that great, nor do I, so it is up for debate.
  
  I see it like this: as an FPS, is was sub-par.
  As a first person adventure game (which is what it was marketed as), it's pretty original.
  As an adventure game, it's above-par.
  
  I didn't like it overall, and I find that too many Nintendo games are herald as if they were some diety. You can like it if you want, but don't say it's not up for debate because it clearly is.
12. Re:Still 1st-person? by dogbowl · 2005-08-04 03:24 · Score: 1
  
  well then play them on your gamecude and giant HDTV (as I did)
  
  GameBoy Adapter
  
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13. Re:Still 1st-person? by rohlfinator · 2005-08-04 03:27 · Score: 1
  
  From the article:
  "The interview hints that Metroid Prime 3 will end a trilogy of sorts..."
  
  It sounds like Prime 3 will be the last of the "Prime" subseries, which has been the subtitle for every 3D Metroid game. I'd say there's a pretty good chance of Metroid returning to it's 3rd person roots for the following title. Nintendo seems to have a knack for 3D sidescrollers lately (DK: Jungle Beat, New Super Mario Bros.)
  
  And here's an interesting rumor:
  A pre-E3 issue of Game Informer reported that Nintendo was planning to preview a new third-person Metroid called "Metroid Dread" for DS at E3, but the game was never shown. All of the other listed games in that issue turned out to be real, so there's pretty good reason to believe it's in development.
14. Re:Still 1st-person? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 03:45 · Score: 0
  
  I agree, I love the 2d games. I'm a huge fan of the somewhat similar Castlevania 2d games as well. I was surprised from playing the first Prime how close they made it to the 2d games. Other than the turbo boost and the screw attack (which is in Prime 2) there's not much missing from the conversion.
  Unless someone really can't stand playing FPS, I don't get how any Metroid fan could not like the Prime series.
15. Re:Still 1st-person? by Funk_dat69 · 2005-08-04 03:57 · Score: 1
  
  now now,
  
  Dont read too much into my post there. Obviously you're allowed to like what you like. I just sensed a bit of 'everything-old-school-is-better' snobery in the original post.
  
  Not to be contradictive, but I DO like old school games just as much as the new fancy ones. My point was, though, that MP and MP2 recreated the feeling of the original ones rather well.
  
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16. Re:Still 1st-person? by Soul-Burn666 · 2005-08-04 05:10 · Score: 1
  
  1. Emulators. You can buy the handheld version to feel good with yourself and just play the game on the PC.
  2. The new Nintendo console has a system where you can download their and others' old classics (and probably GBA games aswell) and play them on the console.
  
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17. Re:Still 1st-person? by PeelBoy · 2005-08-04 06:42 · Score: 1
  
  no matter how well done the first two were (which is debatable).
  
  No. I don't think it is debatable. For being in a first person view they were absolutely perfect.
  
  People who don't like them are either not real Metroid fans or are people who wanted the game to be something it's not. It isn't an FPS where you just run around and randomly destroy enemies. Metroid was never about that, and the prime games do an excelent job of putting the old metroid games into a first person view.
  
  On the other hand I would love another super metroid like game. I do love the side scrolling versions (love the GBA ones too) but to completely dismiss Metroid Prime because it doesn't play like Halo is complete rubbish.
  
  That's my opinion like it or not.
18. Re:Still 1st-person? by PeelBoy · 2005-08-04 06:52 · Score: 1
  
  er I mean you either like the game or you don't but I don't honestly think the way it plays is debatable I think they did it exactly how it should be done and if you don't like it then you don't like it end of story and for people who want to call prime an FPS well they obviously have never played metroid before because it's not a shooter and there for is not an FPS.
19. Re:Still 1st-person? by DarkYoshi · 2005-08-04 07:57 · Score: 1
  
  If you liked Metroid and Super Metroid as much as I did, why don't you pick up a Rev when it comes out, and play them on it? That is one of Nintendo's main focuses on the Revolution.
20. Re:Still 1st-person? by DavidD_CA · 2005-08-04 08:02 · Score: 1
  
  No, you're not.
  
  I got sick of first-person style games about six months after Mario came out on the N64. Because *everything* followed suit.
  
  I was so disappointed with Castlevainia and some of the others that I basically stopped playing action games entirely and stuck to RPGs.
  
  Street Fighter-games don't need to be 3D, neither does Zelda or Mario or Metroid.
  
  I give big props to the Konami/Gradius team who released Gradius 5 as an old-school shoot-em-up.
  
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21. Re:Still 1st-person? by Norfair · 2005-08-04 08:04 · Score: 1
  
  I find myself nodding in agreement with you. Or it could just be that I'm tired. Seriously though, I would love to see if they could come up with something that would match the gaming quality of Super Metroid. I don't know why game companies are so scared to do an 'old-skool'-type platformer.
  Has anyone in the game industry asked to see if we're still keen on playing everything in an FPS style? Come on, Doom was groundbreaking (yeah, and Castle Wolfenstein if you want to get nitpicky), later on Half-Life (and CS) took it to the next level (of course there were plenty of stunners in between), but now I'm just personally getting fed up of the genre, because I increasingly feel like I've seen it all.
22. Re:Still 1st-person? by Headcase88 · 2005-08-04 08:09 · Score: 1
  
  " Come on, are you honestly telling me sidescrollers should only appear on handhelds? I don't own a DS/GBA nor do I plan to.
  
  I fully agree with this statement. We haven't had a good puzzle game for 7 years until Lumines came out for the PSP. Hello? The PS2 could have supported Lumines years ago (and surely now), but no, Sony takes the great game and uses it as a tool to sell PSPs. I hate it.
  
  Why can't "old" genres be on home consoles (outside of a Game Boy Advance Player)? Viewtiful Joe is not a 2d game just because the action takes place on a 2d plane. Even the so called "New Super Mario Bros." looks 3D from what I've seen (graphics-wise). What's the point if all the gameplay is flat?
  
  I remember someone from Gamespot saying (a long time ago, I'm not looking for a link here) that if a company actually put a lot of time and money into making a good 2d side scroller with 2d graphics for a home console, it'd probably look better than the 3d stuff out there. The resolution, lighting, framerate, etc would be amazing since the console wouldn't have any 3 dimensional polygons to draw. Think about all the crazy stuff they could throw in there without having to process all of it in 3 dimensions. It'd probably be a fun game, too bad it'll never happen.
  
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23. Re:Still 1st-person? by mink · 2005-08-04 08:27 · Score: 1
  
  It's been a while but I seem to remember Mario 64 being a 3rd person game.
  
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24. Re:Still 1st-person? by bleaknik · 2005-08-04 08:35 · Score: 1
  
  exmploration
  
  Heheh.
  
  <simpsonsreference>saxamaphone</simpsonsreference>
  
  Pop culture references aside, Metrod Prime (and its sequels) is an amazing game. It is not your daddy's FPS. It is more a Metroid game than anyone who hasn't played it will ever know.
  
  Just because Halo is a standard mindless FPS, it doesn't mean Nintendo's golden First Person Shooter is. I'd identify it more as a First Person Revolution. But then again, maybe that is what Nintendo's going for...
  
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25. Re:Still 1st-person? by DavidD_CA · 2005-08-04 08:36 · Score: 1
  
  Well yeah, I meant 3D in general.. as opposed to side-scrolling goodness.
  
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26. Re:Still 1st-person? by mink · 2005-08-04 08:42 · Score: 1
  
  Ahh.
  
  I think of the Mario games I have played I really enjoyed 64 the most.
  The funny thing is I was an "adult" by the time Mario 64 came out and it seemed to me to be a good game for me as well as younger types.
  Whatever design decisions Nintendo made I think were good ones and led to a game everyone (IMO) can play.
  
  Clearly your mileage varied, but there is nothing wrong with that.
  
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27. Re:Still 1st-person? by MilenCent · 2005-08-04 09:43 · Score: 1
  
  While Metroid Fusion was so-so, Metroid Zero Mission is a worthy successor to both the original Metroid *and* Super Metroid, for different reasons, while introducing its own share of cool new elements to the series. (Like intentional sequence breaks....)
28. Re:Still 1st-person? by Deusy · 2005-08-04 10:46 · Score: 1
  
  You could always help out with Windstille which is being created in the spirit of Metroid. It is a bit alpha at the moment but has 3d characters running around a 2d platform environment.
  
  You'll probably bitch and moan (as a collective, I mean) that this is OSS and incomplete and yadda yadda, but sometimes if you want something specific then there's no better solution than to do it yourself.
  
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29. Re:Still 1st-person? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 12:30 · Score: 0
  
  "recreated the feeling" != gameplay
  
  and that's what I buy consoles for
Controller? by turtled · 2005-08-04 02:17 · Score: 4, Funny

"Metroid Prime 3 itself will reportedly take advantage of a number of new features in the Revolution, including the controller"

That's Revolutionary! It will use the controller!

On a side note, I feel Revolution's mysterious hype is going to explode. I am excited (yes, even with Mario part 87) to see what there is to offer.

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1. Re:Controller? by kannibal_klown · 2005-08-04 02:39 · Score: 1
  
  I think they said that only because that was the one major gripe about Metroid Prime 1 & 2... a lot of people think the Gamecube controller sucks at FPS.
  
  So, in a sense they're saying... "The one major flaw in the game that annoyed like 3/4 of you is gone... the new controller for the Revolution will work a lot better."
2. Re:Controller? by leland242 · 2005-08-04 03:12 · Score: 1
  
  "I feel Revolution's mysterious hype is going to explode" It has that segway vibe to me. Lots of hype for a 'whatever' product. I think whatever the mystery is, it will turn out to be something both obvious and clever - but not revolutionary. And I'm totally a N fanboy...
3. Re:Controller? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 04:00 · Score: 0
  
  I agree. I think the controller will have something along the lines of the analog stick/rumble pack in the N64 controller. That is, it'll probably be something we've seen before but hasn't been adapted to modern gaming and it'll probably get copied by MS and Sony.
  I'd put my bet on a motion sensor inside the controller. It could be a touchpad on the controller as well, but I think the motion sensor has better odds.
4. Re:Controller? by MilenCent · 2005-08-04 09:48 · Score: 1
  
  Revolution has monsterous hype? It's got a bunch of people trying to guess whatever it could be about, it's got confirmed downloads of classic Nintendo games, and... that's it. If anything, Nintendo should be hyping it *more*; they're historically the most honest about their consoles capabilities, which is making them seem like a distant third in hardware capability when they'll probably not far so far behind in power, if they fall behind at all.
  
  Meanwhile PS3's Cell processor is supposed to be a supercomputer in a game console.
5. Re:Controller? by DeadScreenSky · 2005-08-05 15:07 · Score: 1
  
  It's name is REVOLUTION. What kind of title could possibly be designed to create more hype? :D
  
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6. Re:Controller? by jx100 · 2005-08-05 18:20 · Score: 1
  
  Well, the last system's games came on GODs...
ahhh... the music by diamondmagic · 2005-08-04 02:36 · Score: 2, Interesting

Now why didn't MTV nominate Metroid: Prime for its music? Most Nintendo titles have absolutely stunning music, especially Metroid: Prime, to go aling with the brillant artwork and complete attention to detail.

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1. Re:ahhh... the music by Reignking · 2005-08-04 02:45 · Score: 1
  
  Well, for starters, that game came out close to three years ago...
  
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2. Re:ahhh... the music by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 02:49 · Score: 0
  
  BZZT! WRONG!
  
  The correct answer is "Because MTV sucks because they don't know how to respect good original games like Metroid Prime and instead perpetuate the stupid EA-led mentality of derivative sports games with lots of product placement and shitty 'pop' music when they could be honoring original games like Katamari Damacy and Metroid Prime goddammit I hate MTV all the kids in my high school watch it and they are all stupid followers current mood: angsty 0 comments (leave a comment)"
3. Re:ahhh... the music by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 03:52 · Score: 0
  
  Quality has no place in MTV's world.
The only way... by transmetal · 2005-08-04 02:39 · Score: 2, Interesting

The only way Nintendo could get me even slightly excited for their new system, is the promise of "new" games. Not remakes, nor sequels. Among their big Gamecube titles, which were not simply another title in a twenty year old series? I like Mario as much as the next gamer, but it wouldn't hurt for them to come up with something new this time around.
1. Re:The only way... by antifood · 2005-08-04 02:44 · Score: 1
  
  Eternal Darkness.
2. Re:The only way... by wbm6k · 2005-08-04 03:07 · Score: 1
  
  Among their big Gamecube titles, which were not simply another title in a twenty year old series?
  
  Well, let's see. From a quick look at Nintendo's site, they have released:
  1. Animal Crossing
  2. Custom Robo
  3. Donkey Kong Jungle Beat - (unless you consider that a sequel to the old donkey kong platformers)
  4. Donkey Konga - rhythm based drumming
  5. Eternal Darkness
  6. Geist (upcoming)
  7. Luigi's Mansion
  8. Pikmin - a new puzzle series
  So that is eaight brand new games right there; plus various new Mario sports titles, Odama (upcoming pinball game), Giftpia (anew RPG if they ever finish it).
3. Re:The only way... by StocDred · 2005-08-04 03:08 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Among their big Gamecube titles, which were not simply another title in a twenty year old series?
  Why is that your only criteria for judging whether a new game is worth your time? Too many times burned by Sonic, Crash Bandicoot and Tomb Raider? Nintendo sequels are far more likely to maintain quality than other franchises.
  But if you're still going to be picky, how about Pikmin, WarioWare*, or Animal Crossing**? All are new concept first-party games that premiered this generation. What about the upcoming Mario light-action sports titles (baseball and soccer), or are they already declared DOA simply because Mario is in them? Have a DS for Nintendogs?
  *yes, I know WarioWare has bloody Wario in it, but I'm not calling that reason enough to declare it a remake or sequel.
  **yes, I know Animal Crossing was originally a Japanese N64 title.
4. Re:The only way... by kryogen1x · 2005-08-04 03:14 · Score: 1
  
  What games are you interested in for any console that aren't sequels or remakes?
5. Re:The only way... by leland242 · 2005-08-04 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  Why?
  
  Mario = time test, approved character.
  
  You know the games will be rated E. There will be no Hot Coffee mod to have Mario bang the princess.
  
  More importantly, if youre developing a new game, it's very difficult to introduce it to the market.
  
  Instead of taking a big risk, you take the game you made, and slap in Mario - now you have the same game + a recognizable lead character and a 20+ year backstory that can easily be incorporated.
  
  Not to mention that Mario games are almost always fun to play.
6. Re:The only way... by Deadguy2322 · 2005-08-04 03:50 · Score: 0
  
  Hmm. Let's see. Animal Crossing was a remake of a Japan-only N64 title, Same deal for Custom Robo. Donkey Konga was simply Namco tweaking Taiko no Tatsujin to include a Nintendo franchise, same for Jungle Beat. Eternal Darkness was created by Silicon Knights, the real creators of the Legacy of Kain series. Geist, as you admit isn't out yet, and has been previewed for three years now, so it might never arrive. And, please, Luigi's Mansion? How is that not another Mario series game?
  
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7. Re:The only way... by LKM · 2005-08-04 04:04 · Score: 1
  
  The only way Nintendo could get me even slightly excited for their new system, is the promise of "new" games. Not remakes, nor sequels.
  
  Right, because Super Mario Sunshine was just an updated version of Super Mario Bros.
  
  Come on, the fact that Nintendo puts its successfull characters on many games doesn't mean that they're "just sequels". "Wind Waker" has about as much in common with "The Legend of Zelda" as "Ikaruga" with "River Raid".
  
  Besides, even though Nintendo uses its "old" characters in a lot of its games, it's not like they didn't invent any new franchises - Pikmin, Animal Crossing or Geist are a few for the Cube, and on the DS, there are more to come.
8. Re:The only way... by fwitness · 2005-08-04 04:37 · Score: 1
  
  +2 River Raid Reference
  
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9. Re:The only way... by LKM · 2005-08-04 05:01 · Score: 1
  
  +2 River Raid Reference
  
  Hey, it's the only reason I keep my VCS 2600 - that, and Pitfall! :-)
10. Re:The only way... by PeelBoy · 2005-08-04 07:09 · Score: 1
  
  I suppose 11 days is too long to wait for geist? It's gone gold and comes out the 15th.
  
  Luigi's mansion is HARDLY a typical mario game, and by hardly I mean in no way at all period end of story get a clue.
  
  can't say much for the other games.
11. Re:The only way... by cornface · 2005-08-04 07:22 · Score: 0
  
  Right, because Super Mario Sunshine was just an updated version of Super Mario Bros.
  
  No, it was an updated version of Mario 64.
  
  Wind Waker was an updated version of Zelda 64.
  
  That being said sometimes similar sequels out do the originals. Mario Kart 64 compared to the original Mario Kart. Pikmin 2 compared to Pikmin.
  
  Other times it works in reverse. Any Madden compared to Madden
12. Re:The only way... by LKM · 2005-08-04 20:29 · Score: 1
  
  No, it was an updated version of Mario 64.
  
  Yeah, in that you could jump, and you had to search for several shines inside the same level.
  
  Other than that, it's quite different from Mario 64. The Water Nozzle changed the gameplay mechanisms, because you could fly and shoot. It's really not too similar to Mario 64, even if it does share a lot with it.
  
  Most 3D platformers (such as Rayman) are a lot more similar to Mario 64 than Sunshine is.
  
  Wind Waker was an updated version of Zelda 64.
  
  Wish it were :-)
  
  Occarina did so many things right that most modern adventure games use these gameplay mechanisms. Wind Waker is an adventure, so it took L-Targeting, Inventory, Items and other features over from Occarina. Games like Beyond Good & Evil and Starfox Adventures use these features, too. I'd say Wind Waker was definitely a fresh take on the Zelda franchise. Maybe too fresh: Seems like Nintendo is taking a few steps back with the new Gamecube Zelda, making it more similar to the N64 versions.
  
  Pikmin 2, of course, was very similar to Pikmin 1. In my opinion, that wasn't a bad thing, though. I love both Pikmins.
13. Re:The only way... by cornface · 2005-08-05 02:56 · Score: 0
  
  Whoops. It looks like I hit submit before I finished my post. I was hoping nobody would notice. I was going to say that the Madden series has been downhill since 94.
  
  I agree that Sunshine and Wind Waker added new mechanics, but that was what was "updated" about them. Sunshine was Mario 64 with a badly controlling water cannon. Wind Waker was OOT with a new look and a boat.
  
  Pikmin 2 multiplayer was a work of genius.
14. Re:The only way... by stonecypher · 2005-08-10 06:09 · Score: 1
  
  Pikmin, WarioWare*, or Animal Crossing**
  
  You're one for three. WarioWare debuted on the GBA, and alsomade it to the n64. Animal Crossing also hit the GBA. How WarioWare, which is just a themed no-board Mario Party, which itself is just a new Panic!, is a "new concept" is beyond me. Pikmin you can make the argument for, though I see it as just another automaton game like Lemmings. Mario Baseball started on the NES, and Mario Tennis on the SNES; besides, I'm not sure how you think Baseball and Tennis ratify a point about Nintendo churning out old material. Oh, and Nintendogs is an old, old idea; it was dead for ten years, but was popular again recently as Tamagatchi, Dogz or Creatures, depending on your scale of complexity. That said, the earlier raiser I'm aware of is Little Computer People, by EA back in the late 70s or early 80s, which you now know as the "revolutionary" game The Sims.
  
  Also, to my amusement, all three of the games you named have sequels.
  
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15. Re:The only way... by StocDred · 2005-08-11 09:03 · Score: 1
  
  And you're a moron who cowardly waits a week to reply. I suppose you were out of town.
  So what if WarioWare debuted on the GBA? The point is you were asking for new IPs, and WarioWare is a very recent creation. And likening it to Mario Party is idiotic. You have clearly played none of the games in either series. And WarioWare was never, ever an N64 game.
  Animal Crossing was not a GBA game, you are, again, a moron. The closest Animal Crossing got to the GBA was the connectivity bonus coming out of the GameCube game itself.
  And somebody enlighten me about an NES Mario Baseball, because I don't think you have any idea what the fuck you're talking about. And about tennis, I didn't mention it. I quoted soccer, based on the upcoming Super Mario Strikers, which I believe to be the first time Mario has played soccer. Again, somebody let me know. Maybe you're right, but your abundance of other errors leads me to think you're not.
  I guess you've played Nintendogs already and have discovered nothing new in it. It's just a Tamagotchi. Sure it is. Is your position really that a new game must contain 100% entirely new EVERYTHING in order for you to consider it? Then I can confidently predict that you will never play anything ever again. Give me an example of ANY new game you like that you can't find some detail that wasn't already done before.
  Sequels? Of course there are sequels, they are all good games. Your original complaint was that Nintendo isn't doing enough to introduce new IPs. There's three new IPs that have all been successful to one degree of another, to the point that they earned sequels. (But again you have it wrong. The Animal Crossing sequel isn't out yet, and it's a DS game.)
  You are, simply, yet another anti-Nintendo ass who is desperately searching to justify your irrational hatred. Come on now, Pikmin = Lemmings? Yeah, you can namedrop games from 20 years ago, but you're no gamer.
KaBoom? by mpaon · 2005-08-04 02:46 · Score: 0

who else read that as 'Metroid Prime 3 Exploded"?
Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by Kraagenskul · 2005-08-04 03:03 · Score: 1

Hey Nintendo, how about making some games for the current system? One Zelda game? ONE? And Metroid 2 was the same game with some different frickin' maps. The Mario game was lame.
I might as well sell my Gamecube, and use the money to save for PS3.
1. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by rohlfinator · 2005-08-04 03:20 · Score: 1
  
  "One Zelda game? ONE?"
  
  More like three (and a half).
  Every Nintendo console has featured no more than two Zelda games (the SNES only had one). GameCube is at least on par with that, even if you ignore FSA and OoT:MQ. Nintendo can't please everyone. For every person like you who wants more Zelda and Mario, there's another who's ticked that Nintendo keeps reusing the same franchises. It's kind of a lose-lose situation.
2. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by yRabbit · 2005-08-04 04:22 · Score: 1
  
  I'd really like Metroid Prime 3 as well, but.. I'm not buying a whole new system for it.. :\
3. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by PeelBoy · 2005-08-04 07:15 · Score: 1
  
  Mario baseball looks pretty sweet as does Geist. I'm sure there are more but i dont feel like looking.
4. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by cttforsale · 2005-08-04 07:41 · Score: 1
  
  If you're a ZELDA fan, the NGC is the system to have. Combine the games you can play off of a NGC disk (Z:WW, Z:OOT MASTER QUEST, Z:BONUS DISK, and all the zeldas playable on the GAMEBOY advance emulator), You're laughing...
5. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by |/|/||| · 2005-08-04 08:10 · Score: 1
  
  And Metroid 2 was the same game with some different frickin' maps.
  
  ...and different visors, and different weapons, and the different plot on a different planet with the little light world/dark world thing... you're right, it was practically the exact same game. Seriously, how much can you change and still have a Metroid game?
  Yeah, and the new Zelda game for GC comes out in November.
  
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6. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by Kraagenskul · 2005-08-04 08:25 · Score: 1
  
  I guess what I'm asking is where is all the "revolutionary" stuff they promised us for the Gamecube? It just seems like they think they made a mistake with the Gamecube and are more worried about the new machine; the system never really seemed to hit it's stride the way all their last machines did, especially the 64. It just seems like they really dropped the ball on it. As for Metroid, it just seemed like a MOTS game to me. Ya, it had those new things you talked about, but it just wasn't enough to seperate it from the first one. It was more like a part 2. My bad on Zelda; someone had told me that it was coming out for the new system and not GC. Need to check my sources before mouthing off.
7. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by scabb · 2005-08-04 11:29 · Score: 1
  
  "I might as well sell my Gamecube, and use the money to save for PS3."
  No, you mustn't!
8. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by Anonymous Coward · 2005-08-04 12:52 · Score: 0
  
  Need to check my sources before mouthing off.
  
  No you don't. That's the beauty of slashdot. The editors lead by example.
9. Re:Hey Nintendo, how about games for the Gamecube? by grumbel · 2005-08-05 01:41 · Score: 1
  
  ### ...and different visors, and different weapons, and the different plot on a different planet with the little light world/dark world thing...
  
  In the PC world thats called Add-On or Mission Disk, the gameplay of Prime2 is still 100% the same as in Prime. Its pretty much the same as as with ZeldaOoT and ZeldaMM, same engine, same gameplay, just a bit of new gamedata.
  
  ### Seriously, how much can you change and still have a Metroid game?
  
  Well, a lot I would say. Prime didn't have much todo with the previous incarnations either, so a successor could as well take a different route. One of the things I like about Nintendo is that they basically reinvent the game from scratch each time (see SMW1 vs SMW2, etc.), so Metroid should survive that without too much throuble. How about for example having some real story or some humanoid characters in the game? How about letting you flying Samus spaceship? How about being able to move between different planets, those elevators surly get a bit boring over time. How about going back to a 2D gameplay? There are for sure million things that one could make different while still staying true to the basic spirit of Metroid.
Try Alien Hominid by JimTheta · 2005-08-04 03:19 · Score: 1

Try this one: Alien Hominid.

You like Metal Slug? Contra? You'll like this.

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morph ball by cowscows · 2005-08-04 05:08 · Score: 1

Having not really played the Metroid Prime games, when I saw the line about not adding a third person view outside of the morph ball, I originally thought that it meant that when you went into morph ball mode, it stayed in first person.

Then I thought, that would be ridiculous, it'd probably make you sick, and you wouldn't be able to tell where you were going. And I read it again, and it made sense.

But yeah, there should be a button to press when in morph ball mode so that you can go back to first person and watch the world spin around.

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Amazing! by Guppy06 · 2005-08-04 08:58 · Score: 1

"Metroid Prime 3 itself will reportedly take advantage of a number of new features in the Revolution, including the controller..."

And I suppose next you'll tell me it takes advantage of the a/v out on the back of the box?