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Equal Time For Creationism

Brian Berns writes "Many news sources reported on President Bush's recent semi-endorsement of 'intelligent design', the politically correct version of creationism that is currently in vogue among groups of conservative Christians in the U.S.. While Mr. Bush was reportedly reluctant to make news on this topic, he apparently felt it was an issue he could not duck. Most of those same news sources, however, missed the recent condemnation of Darwinian evolution by the Catholic cardinal archbishop of Vienna. This NY Times op-ed appears to mark a deliberate attempt to reverse the late Pope John Paul II's acceptance of evolution as 'more than just a hypothesis'."

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  1. Re:Not all opinions are of equal value by Joe+Decker · · Score: 3, Funny
    "....We wouldn't teach astrology in astronomy courses, or give flat-earth teachings 'equal time' in the geography class."

    Give it time, give it time.

  2. Touched by His Noodly Appendage by mmarlett · · Score: 5, Funny

    In Kansas, we intelligently design all the time.

    My favorite current theory is the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Please note how it also explains global warming with the decline of the world's pirate population.

    From the founder's open letter to the Kansas Board of Education, which is considering re-writing the state's science standards to have none: "I think we can all look forward to the time when these three theories are given equal time in our science classrooms across the country, and eventually the world; One third time for Intelligent Design, one third time for Flying Spaghetti Monsterism, and one third time for logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence."

  3. Re:Oh Joy... by Schroedinger · · Score: 5, Funny

    You fogot the .1% of posts predicting the percentage of each category of post. Not to mention the % in the category of posts pointing out that you forgot the former category.

  4. Re:Two thousand by 21st+Century+Peon · · Score: 5, Funny

    "administrators"?
    We'll have none of your heretical polytheism here, son. There is but one Administrator, and His name is ...
    Say, there's a good topic for a survey....

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  5. Re:Here we go again... by 21st+Century+Peon · · Score: 5, Funny

    'And saying it was created by Creationists is a red herring. It doesn't matter who "created" it. The concept is what it is.'
    It wasn't 'created' at all - it evolved!
    ...
    I'll get my coat.

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  6. Re:Ahhh shit here we go by maxwell+demon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Then please add the following theory, too:

    The earth was built by the mice to find the answer to the question of life, the universe and everything.

    I really think that theory should be given equal class time! :-)

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  7. Re:Good for you by clickety6 · · Score: 4, Funny

    America broke off from Europe 200 some odd years ago.

    More like 60 million years ago wasn't it ;-)

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  8. Re:Evolution is obsolete- upgrade w/ 'new biology' by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 5, Funny

    While ID cannot be definitively disproven, I present GW as Exhibit 1 in showing the conjecture to be improbable.

  9. Now I get it.... Bush is brilliant! by adrenaline_junky · · Score: 4, Funny

    Ahh, I see now. Bush is actually a progressive with a keen understanding of science.

    He is abusing his power as President in a clever ploy to show how ridiculous policies such as his are. When he says that contrasting ideas on the origin of species should be taught, what he is really advocating is that schools teach just how unscientific Creationism is.

    Bush's ultimate goal is to finally expose Christianity and all other religions for the fraud they are! His entire Iraq War is meant to be an instructive lesson on the dangers of religious fanatacism.

    Brilliant! Fucking brilliant!

  10. Re:What falsifiable predictions does it make? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Just because your idea of philosophy is something to talk about while you're smoking pot, doesn't mean that's all there is to it.

    But speaking as one and for most philosophy majors, that is a large part of it.

  11. Re:Not all opinions are of equal value by dr_dank · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Not all opinions are of equal value, and we need to teach science - not religion -- in our science classes. We wouldn't teach astrology in astronomy courses, or give flat-earth teachings 'equal time' in the geography class."

    In this modern era of anti-intellectualism in the US, many would dismiss this statement out-of-hand as an arrogant, godless, know-it-all liberal who mocks the very foundation of our Christian nation. Rational debate with these types of people is a wasted effort.

    These are the same people who thought that, given some extra time, Jesus would come riding down on his magical unicorn to shit a new brain into Terry Shivo's head. People will believe what they want to believe and nothing will change that.

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  12. Re:Here we go again... by jjjefff · · Score: 4, Funny

    So nobody believes in evolution because of evolution. Which to my mind pretty much proves that there's no intelligent designer involved in this process.

    Unless the designer's motives are not what you think...

  13. Re:Here we go again... by Rei · · Score: 4, Funny

    There's only one way to get this out of the media: a compromise. And there's only a fair way to compromise: equal time, just like the creationists want. Cover both timelines with equal detail devoted to equal periods of time.

    Of course, since the evolutionary timeline runs for ~4.5 billion years and the ID timeline for ~6,000 years, that would mean giving it about one second per school year.

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