Monad Shell Removed From Vista
hggs writes "According to Stephen Toulouse at Microsoft, because of the possible virus threat that targets Monad the shell will not be included in Windows Vista. CNet is reporting that, even though Monad is not to be included on Vista, it will be included on a major server operating system for servers from Microsoft. Codenamed Longhorn server, that edition is due out by 2007." Update: 08/06 04:45 GMT by Z : As Mr. Toulouse states here, the submission here adds one and one and gets three. Monad hasn't been in Vista for about two months. The CNet article is clarifying a previous report stating that Monad could potentially be the first source of viruses in an OS which incorporated it. The interesting news about Monad in the server edition was obscured by the factually incorrect submission, which at first blush seemed to make sense. Mea Culpa.
...why am I not surprised?
Remove the capability of the command line for home users, but leave a buggy and insecure shell for servers where hackers can have lots of fun messing up enterprise level websites!
Just as well. Enterprise level web sites running on Windows sounds sooo wrong.
Why the f**k doesn't Microsoft simply make a decent port of bash? For Christ's sakes, Bourne-like shells have been running under *nix for a helluva long time. What is Microsoft's fixation with recreating the wheel, and then, to top it off, doing it badly? They're like heroin junkies in Redmond, always looking for the latest fix, and always busting off the needle.
The world's burning. Moped Jesus spotted on I50. Details at 11.
I RTFA and it does not even imply that MONAD will not be included in Windows Vista because of the virus threat. ...which just means that Toulouse isn't a complete wanker. It's pretty obvious why Monad will not be included in Windows Vista. It's a fundamentally bad idea, that's why. Why Microsoft ever thought this crazy plan to pass off a science fair project from their Research department as actual product is a total mystery. But blaming its withdrawal on a supposed "virus threat" is just silly.
There's a reason the Bourne shell [and its cognates] have been so widely deployed. Microsoft would be well-served if it would think about it for a moment or two before deciding what to do about its command line environment.
jhw