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Monad Shell Removed From Vista

hggs writes "According to Stephen Toulouse at Microsoft, because of the possible virus threat that targets Monad the shell will not be included in Windows Vista. CNet is reporting that, even though Monad is not to be included on Vista, it will be included on a major server operating system for servers from Microsoft. Codenamed Longhorn server, that edition is due out by 2007." Update: 08/06 04:45 GMT by Z : As Mr. Toulouse states here, the submission here adds one and one and gets three. Monad hasn't been in Vista for about two months. The CNet article is clarifying a previous report stating that Monad could potentially be the first source of viruses in an OS which incorporated it. The interesting news about Monad in the server edition was obscured by the factually incorrect submission, which at first blush seemed to make sense. Mea Culpa.

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  1. because of the threat of viruses by cryptoz · · Score: 3, Funny

    Microsoft has decided to not release Windows Vista at all this year.

    1. Re:because of the threat of viruses by chrono13 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Microsoft announces Monad is insufficient for Vista.

      Later this week they plan to unveil Gonad, the new MSShell.

      A senior Microsoft developer leaked some details of the new Gonad shell "When you start the computer, it boots your Gonad and brings up a MShell". When pressed for further information, he said "Not now, I have a headache".

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    2. Re:because of the threat of viruses by mrchaotica · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, no, no -- Gonad is the Free reimplmentation being developed by the guy that works on GNOME and Mono.

      Incidentally, how do you pronounce "MSShell?" Is it "Michelle" like the Beatles song, "mis-sel" as in ICBM, or "MS Hell" as in what happens when you use Windows?

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  2. Idea by sneakers563 · · Score: 5, Funny

    You could build a pretty good operating system from all the stuff that's been pulled out out Vista. Maybe Microsoft could take all that extra stuff and come out with a "Platinum" version of Vista; call it "Longhorn" or something.

    1. Re:Idea by mrchaotica · · Score: 5, Funny

      No, I think they'll call it "Blackcomb" and release it sometime between 2013 and 2020.

      It'd be funny, if only I were joking.

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    2. Re:Idea by sharkey · · Score: 3, Funny

      You guys think you're SOOOOO funny. Just you wait until Cairo is out, then you'll see!

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  3. We get the point... by ItsJustLilOldMe · · Score: 5, Funny
    "it will be included on a major server operating system for servers

    Welcome to the department of redundancy department...

  4. So M$ had a Monad removed? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Expect Vista in the next Tour de France.

  5. Just what we needed by thirty2bit · · Score: 5, Funny

    Quick - somebody find vulnerabilities in the WPA and DRM modules. Bonus if you find buffer overflows in the "make Windows unstable" DLLs.

  6. Windows will never be free of viruses by Gyarados · · Score: 2, Funny

    We're told that yet another feature won't be present in Windows Vista by someone who seems to think that there won't ever be a virus capable of penetrating Vista's "security". These Microsoft guys crack me up!

    ...What do you mean he wasn't joking?

  7. Re:Everything must go by peculiarmethod · · Score: 2, Funny

    The version number on the My Computer properties will read as different. Commence celebration.

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  8. An announcement from Fedora by ChiralSoftware · · Score: 4, Funny
    "/bin/sh has been associated with security problems in the Unix world since the early 70s. Most Unix/Linux security situations arise when an unauthorized user gets access to the /bin/sh process. Fedora Core 5, due out in October, will not include this dangerous executable. Instead users will control the system through the advanced Gnome windowing system and will be able to develop object-oriented network-transparent applications in the MONO framework."

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  9. 10 great windows vista features by gullevek · · Score: 4, Funny

    walked around the park.
    One was WinFS and fell into a hole.

    9 little windows Vista features walked around the park. The new shell slipped and fell into the pool and drowned.

    8 little windows vista features walked around the park. DRM bully came and whacked them all dead.

    No new Windows Vista features were left alive, so Microsoft put some new colors in and everybody bought it.

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  10. Re:FP by Nuclear+Elephant · · Score: 5, Funny

    So that leaves Vista with the following features I guess:

    - Slick 'Vista' wallpaper
    - DRM to protect the wallpaper

    Rock on!

  11. Re:Oh yeah- that will do a lot of good by vlad30 · · Score: 3, Funny

    "but leave a buggy and insecure shell for servers where hackers can have lots of fun messing up "

    Job Security!!

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  12. Re:Ladies and Gentlemen by sheppos · · Score: 2, Funny

    I think that's pretty much what I said, but congratulations on getting modded higher than me :)

  13. Re:If MS starts removing components... by daniel23 · · Score: 2, Funny

    right, but stripped of the command shell, of course...

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  14. Re:Oh hush up! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wish you and your rational-thinking ilk would get the hell off slashdot. You're ruining all our M$ bashing and hot-buttoned emotionalism!

    I think I speak for the majority of slashdot when I say we are here to be told what to think, not to think for ourselves.

  15. Re:Slide more and more... by sharkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    A world where Microsoft might actually not suck.

    Ahhh, a world where Microsoft makes vacuum cleaners.

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  16. Leibniz Predicted This by Potor · · Score: 2, Funny
    According to Leibniz, Monads have no windows.

    But now Windows seems less and less likely to have Monad.

    What was MS thinking? Windows and monads just don't mix.

  17. Hasta la Vista , monad! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    No wait...

    apt-get remove monad

    Yep, that felt better

  18. Re:MOD PARENT UP by theendlessnow · · Score: 2, Funny
    Read up: MS isn't 100% bad. They have some good stuff and good policies sometimes. Don't complain about them point blank to improve your ego, you'll be the kid that called wolf too many times.

    I'm glad somebody brought this up. Truth is, not even Microsoft can achieve 100% bad, I believe they only claim to be five 9's bad... which is pretty good when it comes to being bad.

  19. What ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    If people keep finding vulnerabilities in "Vista" before it's released, then maybe we can get Microsoft to take Explorer out of the release :-P