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Mars Orbiter Launch Delayed

Mictian writes "NASA's newest Mars probe, Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO), was originally scheduled to be launched from Kennedy Space Center Wednesday morning atop an Atlas 5 rocket. However a potential problem with the Atlas' Redundant Rate Gyro Units (RRGUs), that are part of the vehicle's flight control system, detected at Lockheed Martin's factory has caused the engineers to make sure that the two RRGUs in MRO's rocket are working, thus delaying the launch at least until Thursday morning. There is a 1.5 hour launch window daily until the end of the month."

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  1. Late Breaking News: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Funny
    Today elation swept across our fair world when it was revealed by the Council that the invaders from the evil blue planet have been stymied in their latest efforts to despoil our perfect planet.

    K'Breel, Speaker for the Council, was on hand to address the jubilant masses:
    "Gentle Citizens, today I stand before you with my gelsacs swollen with pride. Today I reveal to you that our wise and powerful Council, not being content to merely defend our world against the constant antagonism by the filthy inhabitants of the evil blue planet, have struck a blow agains the aggressors on their own horrid soil! Utilizing our superior technology, we have caused irreperable damage to one of their loathsome machines while it still squatted on the noisome loam of the evil blue planet! All glory to the Council!"

    During the question-and-answer session that followed, when asked by a citizen whether rumours were true that the device damaged was only a minor inconvinence to the sickening inhabitants of the evil blue planet, and that in all probability the craft would be launched within a day, K'Breel ordered the citizen's summary execution. The remainder of the question-and-answer session passed in a remarkably subdued manner.
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  2. Its just a minor delay by Saggi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They expect to launch Thursday morning.

    But its better to wait one dya, than loosing a big rocket, just to stay on shedule. Better be safe, than sorry.

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    1. Re:Its just a minor delay by RandoX · · Score: 2, Funny

      ESL, I hope.

    2. Re:Its just a minor delay by nacturation · · Score: 3, Insightful

      But its better to wait one dya, than loosing a big rocket, just to stay on shedule.

      That's okay... they'll wait one dya, fix the porblem, and then let loose the rocket.

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  3. Hopefully Thursday by Guysmiley777 · · Score: 5, Informative

    They are planning on testing the gyro unit today so they can get the launch off Thursday morning.

    Oddly enough, the Atlas V acually uses Russian engines in the 1st stage. Ironic for a rocket that was originally an ICBM.

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    1. Re:Hopefully Thursday by Ironsides · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Oddly enough, the Atlas V acually uses Russian engines in the 1st stage. Ironic for a rocket that was originally an ICBM.

      One thing I've always wanted to seen done. Take all the US and Russian engineers, put them together, give them a blank check and the goal of colonizing space along with permission to use any and all knowlege (including classified) that they posses. And just wait to see how long it is until I'm living in orbit.

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    2. Re:Hopefully Thursday by GileadGreene · · Score: 2, Informative

      AFAIK, the Atlas V has little in common with the original Atlas ICBMs, aside from the name.

    3. Re:Hopefully Thursday by frgough · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You'd wind up with the R101 Airhsip, version 2. It would be over deadline, overbudget and crash on liftoff.

      The best way to get a horrible result is to remove all restrictions.

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    4. Re:Hopefully Thursday by boarder · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The Atlas V wasn't originally an ICBM. The Atlas was originally, but the Atlas II, IIAS, IIIA and IIIB were just normal launch vehicles. I work and did work on the latest four of these (I'm too young to have worked on the original Atlas and Atlas II) and can tell you that each is VERY different from the next iteration.

      It would be like saying your current Pentium IV PC is anything like the Pentium you had 10 years ago. ISA bus is gone, RAM is different, video cards are AGP instead of ISA or PCI, floppy drives aren't as prominent, *ATX form factor and power supply connectors instead of AT, etc. There are so many architectural changes (aside from speed and internal cpu design) that they are barely considered similar.

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  4. What the heck is a launch window? by Lothsahn · · Score: 2

    I know that a launch window is a period of time that you can launch in, but is this an environmentally created window (ex: the atmosphere being ideal at a specific time), or is this some sort of legal clearance granted by the FAA/NASA, etc?

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  5. Spheroid Earth and Launch Windows by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    The 1.5 hours is because of the optimum time for launching to Mars due to the earth's rotation right? Darn scientists! If they'd stuck to the flat earth model we'd not have to worry about all this launch window mumbo-jumbo.

  6. Wikipedia to the rescue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It takes almost 5 seconds searching the term in the Wikipedia.

    Launch window is a term used in aerospace to describe a time period in which a particular rocket must be launched. For trips into Earth orbit almost any time will do, but if the spacecraft intends to rendezvous with another (or a planet, or other point in space) the launch must be carefully timed so that the orbits overlap at some point in the future. If the rocket does not launch in the "window", it has to wait for the next one before it can be launched.

  7. Rumor has it... by GillBates0 · · Score: 4, Informative
    However a potential problem with the Atlas' Redundant Rate Gyro Units (RRGUs)...has caused the engineers to make sure that the two RRGUs in MRO's rocket are working

    ...that they just want to make sure that the RRGUs were installed the right side up.

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  8. Re:And to think they might of not noticed. by timster · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yeah, and if it DOESN'T get to outer space on the right course, then your pretty little orbiter is nothing more than a multimillion-dollar piece of useless space junk.

    So it's important that your rocket goes in the right direction. This is actually very hard to do. A rocket is inherently unstable, as the thrust isn't ever perfectly aligned with the center of mass, and any errors in position tend to magnify themselves.

    Ever blown up a balloon and released it? Notice how it flew every which way like crazy? Mostly NOT toward Mars?

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  9. Mod Gyroscopes... by kjones692 · · Score: 4, Funny

    -1, Redundant.

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  10. HiRise camera by slashd'oh · · Score: 4, Informative

    This mission will carry the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRise), which is "the largest camera ever sent out of Earth's orbit and will deliver the highest resolution images of Mars yet" according to an article that adds "The camera utilizes a series of mirrors and lenses that project the image onto a cluster of CCDs rendering images with a resolution up to 20,000 pixels by 40,000 lines, an image so large that it would take 1,200 typical computer screens to fully display. The camera's high resolution will enable the identification of objects as small as a coffee table while the camera orbits 300 kilometers above the planet's surface."

    Back in January 2004, there was an interesting article at Space.com about the high quality of the 1-megapixel camera used by the Spirit rover; I assume this is manufactured to similar quality control standards (although by a different team), but the article doesn't specify and the cameras are not manufactured by the same groups. The Spirit PANCAM has two CCDs whereas this has at least 14 (28?).

  11. Re:They Still Use Atlas Rockets, huh.... by Analog+Squirrel · · Score: 3, Informative
    I know I shouldn't feed the trolls... but this one is a little too silly to let pass.

    1. The early Atlas rockets were known for exploding on the pad when they had a Mercury capsule mounted on them. You see, the spacecraft was a far heavier payload than the Atlas was designed to carry. They were originally intended to carry a modest nuclear warhead, not an astronaut and all the things needed to keep him alive. All the weak points in the Atlas were eventually strengthened, and it went on to lauch 4 guys into orbit without much trouble(Glenn, Carpenter, Schirra, and Cooper all rode Atlases).

    In any case, you did notice, didn't you, that they're using an Atlas 5? Don't you think that after four more (numbered)generations, this just might be a more reliable rocket than guys in the '60s could ever wish for?

    2. And the stuff about Glenn's flight? He was only ever scheduled for three orbits. Both his flight and Carpenter's flight were planned this way. If both proved to be successful, ony then would they try for more ambitious flights. Go take a look at the book Deke!, written by "chief" astronaut Deke Slayton. He goes into a lot of details of some of the planning of many of the missions.

    As far as the rest of your comment goes, while I mostly agree with you, I also realize that since I'm living in a country with a democratic(ish) government, the sentiments of the majority will dictate(more or less) national policy. If the masses don't care for piloted space flight, neither will their representatives or sentators, which will eventually lead to the pathetic funding piloted space flight receives. I also think that, even with the limited budget, if the piloted space flight guys had permanenly grounded the shuttle after the Challenger accident and funneled all the shuttle budget after that into one or more R&D projects aimed at building a newer vehicle, we'd be much better off now. 20/20 hindsight, eh? Isn't it great?

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  12. you have to be kidding me? by deft · · Score: 2, Funny

    "All glory to the Council!"

    They got the iraqi information minister?

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  13. Re:Launch windows by p3d0 · · Score: 2, Interesting
    Nope, that's not it. How close two planets are doesn't matter. What matters is that the trajectory you plan to use must intersect the planet you're trying to reach.

    However, even that is not pertinent here. When launching a spacecraft, it is beneficial always to launch eastward, because then you get an extra 400m/s boost due to the Earth's rotation, which can save a considerable amount of rocket fuel. (Fuel is exponential in the speed boost you need.) The 1.5 hour-per-day launch window represents the time during each day when your launch location is moving in such a way as to give that 400m/s boost in roughly the right direction to get to the trajectory you want to use to get to Mars.

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  14. Re:And the (back of the) envelope please... by TheRocketMan · · Score: 2, Informative
    From the press kit:

    Resolution at 300km altitude is 30 cm per pixel for targeted observations (one of 3 modes). I beleve the 1% number is for targeted imaging only.

    For the high gain, the pipe to Earth is up to 3.5 Mbit/sec (receiving at a 70m antenna) and about 2.4 Mbit/sec for a 34m antenna.

    Expected total data volume for the prime mission only, (through 2010) is 34 terabtes!

  15. skeptical by Quadraginta · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Just taking a guess here, but I'd say they'll only consider lossless compression schemes (no point in throwing away data it took $400 million to collect), and that photos of Mars are not boring enough (e.g. with vast seas of one-color pixels) to be very compressable via lossless algorithms.