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Ogg Vorbis Share Reaches 12.3% on P2P Traffic

prostoalex writes "According to CacheLogic survey, 61.44% of the peer-to-peer traffic nowadays is video, with audio taking distant second place, representing 11.34% of global traffic. Moreover, 12.3% of all the music files traded on P2P networks are in Ogg format. Almost all of the OGG files are traded via BitTorrent protocol with most of the growth coming from Asia, CacheLogic says."

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  1. Traffic statistics by Paska · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > According to CacheLogic survey, 61.44% of the peer-to-peer traffic nowadays is video, with audio taking distant second place, representing 11.34% of global traffic.

    Is this really a huge shock? After all your average movie is (let's just say) 500 megabyte, with your average song at around 2 megabyte - of course video traffic is going to outweigh audio downloads by a great amount.

  2. Re:Downloading Garbage by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why do you automatically assume it's copyright-infringed music? Moreover, why do you assume it belongs to the RIAA or MPAA? Considering that it's "mostly in Asia" it could very well be legally-copied (or infringed from organizations other than the RIAA) Asian music.

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  3. Nice misleading title by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    12.3% of MUSIC transfers, which is 11.34% of all traffic -- so Ogg makes up 1.4% of all P2P traffic. Which ain't bad at all, but is nowhere near 12.3

    1. Re:Nice misleading title by leoxx · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, not many people download movies in OGG format, and the ones that do probably spend a lot of time trying to figure out why the sound works perfectly but the picture is so garbled.

    2. Re:Nice misleading title by joebutton · · Score: 5, Informative

      > Yeah, not many people download movies in OGG
      > format, and the ones that do probably spend a lot
      > of time trying to figure out why the sound works
      > perfectly but the picture is so garbled.

      Actually ogg is a container format which can contain both sound and video. Vorbis is the audio format.

  4. Re:Slightly OT by vonstauf · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not being at my desktop because I'm fair away in cube land, I can atleast attest that my XMMS player that came stock with Slackware seems to do just fine with the equalizer and ogg files. I'll test it out when I get back to the bat cave. This bug seems to be what you're dealing with. Here are some comments about it.

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  5. Re:OGG by hungrygrue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Both are closed formats. To the best of my knowledge, the only way to play wma files under Linux/BSD is to use Microsoft's DLL files which is illegal (Though if you have a legal copy of Windows I suppose that is a grey area. I and many other Linux users, however, do not own or use Windows). MP3 support requires a license fee http://mp3licensing.com/ OGG is an open standard with no strings or restrictions.

  6. Re:Downloading Garbage by ZephyrXero · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually many smaller/independent artists release all, or a large portion of their music for free on their websites...usually at a lower quality of compression, but free none the less... It's a great way to let people hear your music if you don't have the thousand$ to pay for play on the radio ;)

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  7. Amazing where your media goes by Realistic_Dragon · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My brother took a copy of his Black Adder DVDs back with him to China in Xvid+Vorbis format (to save damaging the originals).

    6 months later I buy a pirate copy in Mexico to show to a friend because I don't have *my* originals with me, and it was the same files (or at least, the same checksum when I checked with him). Also on the disk was a vorbis codec and instructions about how to install it... and how to rip new media with it to best effect.

    Something to think about.

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  8. Re:Downloading Garbage by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 4, Informative
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  9. Re:Portable music players by isolationism · · Score: 4, Informative
    Plenty of the iRiver and Samsung offerings support it. My 1GB samsung YP-T6 is (slightly) smaller than a Shuffle, has a screen and more than 2 play modes, an FM tuner, a mic and line in with direct encoding capability (128kbps, but good enough for dictating notes etc.) and plays MP3, WMA, and OGG just fine. It also connects to Windows and Linux as a regular mass-storage device and so doesn't require iTunes or any of its open-source alternatives.

    It's a pity OGG support isn't more wide-spread, and worse still that lots of people bitch about wanting mp3s, completely oblivious to the closed-source brick wall the "next generation" of mp3 formats is going to present. I naturally will be smug with my OGG-playing YP-T6 and EPIA running Linux/Freevo as a set-top multimedia player.

  10. Re:Downloading Garbage by aevan · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Off hand, i'd say a lot? Ayu, Hikki, all the idol singers, etc have a large circulation. Not to mention cpop and kpop like BoA with followings all over.

    For example, a survey in thailand gave thai teens to prefer local as opposed to foreign (i.e. western) at 90%+. Just check the content on the MTV Thailand for a large quantity of their local music.

    Most of my friends are asian in asia, and prefer their own music as opposed to north american derived.

    I'd recommend giving your own head a shake and stop living in a north american/euro-centric dreamland. The entire world doesn't automatically desire NA goods by virtue of their being from NA, and forsake their own. For example, check out oricon for listings of what is popular in Japan-you will see some western but a lot of local music as well (predominantly usually).

    I'll grant western music is heavily pirated, but so too is their local; you pirate what you want to hear, and if local music is preferenced...

  11. Re:Slightly OT by Phat_Tony · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "The linux community at large seems to have a strong sentiment in favor of using ogg over mp3"

    I can give you one reason it's not as big on the Mac as it is on Linux- support. The Macintosh OS-plugin for Ogg never made it out of Beta, hasn't been updated in 15 months, and doesn't work with Quicktime 7- which includes pretty much everyone who's updated to Tiger or run software update under Panther. I mean no offense, I'm glad that people volunteer their time to make things like Ogg for free, but to be practical- I don't pay anything to rip to MP3, AAC, or Apple Lossless, and right now all my Ogg files won't play for who knows how long. It makes the format a pretty risky choice for Mac users.

    Yes, I know that there are other applications that play Ogg files on the Mac, but they're not competitive with iTunes, and I'm not going to change players depending on what music file I want to listen to.

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  12. Re:Downloading Garbage by minus9 · · Score: 4, Funny


    Home taping is killing music!!!