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Mac OS X Running on Non-Apple Hardware

MacBeliever writes "Inevitably, Mac OS X for x86 has been hacked to run on a non-Apple PC. Is this the beginning of the fulfillment of the Dvorak prophecy?" RetrogradeMotion also writes "The OSx86 Project has posted a how-to guide telling how to run OS X on any Windows or Linux-based PC using VMWare." Not 100% corroborated, so ingest with salt.

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  1. Article already slashdotted by Penguinoflight · · Score: 5, Informative
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  2. Hard OCP HardForum Thread by smileyscout · · Score: 5, Informative

    This thread http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=937806&p age=1&pp=20 Has some interesting screenies about MacOSX 86 running natively on a laptop. Be sure to check it out.

  3. Torrents. by Anonymous+Cumshot · · Score: 3, Informative
    Direct links to torrents of the videos showing OS X running on non-Apple hardware:

    1. MacOSX x86 booting natively on a Pc notebook Mitac 8050D (Pentium-M 735/1.6GHz)

    2. The boot on the same hardware, the permission error was repaired. We can see the "About this Mac" panel, Apple System Profiler and CHUD prefpane showing information on the processor (frequency, cache etc...)

    And yes I know these are linked on the site, but if it gets slashdotted, at least you might be able to still grab the torrents since they appear to be on a different server.

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  4. Hold the salt please by seven5 · · Score: 5, Informative

    This works. This is not running inside of vmware. This is running directly on hardware. No salt needed. I have this running on a dell computer right now. All you need to do is take the vmware image floating around the internet, and use dd to image it to a drive. Boot from the drive and it works.. Requirements include an SSE2 enabled cpu, that would be most p4's and amd64 and higher. Rosetta requires SSE3, so without that you get no ppc apps. Newer p4's using the .90nm process will have SSE3. Make sure you have a great Video card as well soyou have Quartz Extreme running. It is also possible to patch the install dvd and install strait to the hardware. But the Vmware image is the easiest to do. You dont even need vmware, just download the vmware image, and use linux or knoppix to dd it over to a blank drive. The next few weeks should be fun :) Compliant hardware on Ebay is going for $225 or so. Not bad.

  5. Article is wrong and misleading by IntergalacticWalrus · · Score: 4, Informative

    It cannot run on any x86. OS X extensively uses SSE2 everywhere, and in some places SSE3 too. You need at least a SSE2-capable CPU to run it (Pentium 4, Pentium M, or any 64-bit AMD), and then again it's apparently not very stable.

  6. Re:VMWare by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Let me guess, you've never looked closely at x86 (and, really, who can blame you)?

    There are a small set of (14?) instructions on x86 that can't be easily trapped. You have two choices, paravirtualisation (like Xen) or emulating an entire system but passing through all of the non-privileged instruction. VMWare does the second, and takes a significant (20%+) performance hit from it. In SPEC99, VMWare is under 30% of the speed of the host machine (source).

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  7. Dvorak wasn't the first to make the prediction by comicnerd · · Score: 3, Informative

    I don't know if he's commented on it since, but Michael Swaine made a small but amusing prediction that this might happen waaay back in the April 1993 issue of Dr. Dobb's Journal. Here's a link to the Google cache version since the original wasn't coming up for me.

  8. ...do not be surprise if it disappears by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "do not be surprise if it disappears"

    so I'm putting a copy here for safe keeping:

    Wednesday August 10, 2005

    - Mac OSX x86 on PC: and now a video! [Upd] - bad_duck - 21:03:35

    The Apple Developer kit version of MacOSX x86 has indeed been fully cracked!
    An anonymous source has sent us a video showing MacOSX x86 booting natively on a Pc notebook Mitac 8050D (Pentium-M 735/1.6GHz).

    Boot Mac OS X 86 (Mpeg4 - 1,5 Mo) - [torrent]

    As you can see the boot phase is rather fast, and the error message at the end is simply due to an right/authorization error due to the kext allowing PS/2 support.

    [Upd]
    Here is a second video showing the boot on the same hardware, the permission error was repaired. We can see the "About this Mac" panel, Apple System Profiler and CHUD prefpane showing information on the processor (frequency, cache etc...).

    Boot Mac OS X 86 v2 (.mov - 11,5 Mo) - [torrent]

    [Update] - We've added torrent files for the 2 videos to relieve the stress on our server. If you use them, please keep seeding as long as possible, thank you.

    [translation by Eric]

    [edited - windows vista crap removed]

    - Mac OSX x86 on any PC : a reality, current status - Yoc - 14:18:24

    Hereafter is the current status of the OSX x86 on any PC project run by PC/Mac "bidouilleurs"

    Initial problems

    Several system prevent running OSX x86 on any PC:
    1. TPM chips from Intel
    2. SSE3-enable processor
    3. GMA900-based graphic card to natively support Quartz.

    First solution: VMWare

    simply install VMare on ANYPC, and this application will emulate what needs to be (GMA900, SSE3 ...)
    Of course this is only a short-term solution, since it is rather instable, and particularly slow.
    since this morning one can find on P2P network an already configures VMWare image OSX x86.

    Patches

    Several solution have been found. The TPM is cracked, and no one needs it anymore. The SSE3 requirement, can be bypassed via quite complex modifications, and this case several kernels will not work since they REALLY need SSE3. A patch for those kernels is being prepared allowing SSE3 instructions to be translated into their corresponding SSE2 ones.
    GMA900 can be avoided by modifying CoreGrapics, patches are also available.

    The best solution: the right hardware

    The best and the most secure solution is a motherboard from Intel: D915 GA, GL or GU :
    http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/ux/

    Excellent results have been obtained with Gigabytes GA-8I915P motherboard card:
    http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Products/Prod ucts_GA-8I915P%20Duo-A.htm

    Users with such a motherboard and a Pentium 4 will be able to install MacOSX x86 with the patch for Rosetta (without the patch if you choose a SSE3-enable Pentium4).
    Be careful not to use any HD in RAID settings, otherwise it will crash your system.
    Use a USB keyboard, PS2 port is not really well supported.

    First tests

    First tests have shown that MacOSX x86 on PC is very reactive, no crash, iTunes is running perfectly, with Rosetta.
    Digital camera work perfectly with iPhoto, as well as digital camcorder with iMovie.

    Another solution
    The last solution is based on installation of Darw