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Siberian Permafrost Melting

TeknoHog writes "New Scientist Reports on a remarkable runaway process of global warming that has been going on in Siberia for the past few years. 'Western Siberia has warmed faster than almost anywhere else on the planet, with an increase in average temperatures of some 3C in the last 40 years.' As a result, a million square kilometers (the area of France and Germany) of frozen peat bog have been found to be melting, according to Russian and international scientists. This releases methane, a potent greenhouse gas, which contributes to further global warming."

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  1. Global warming by truckaxle · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Global warming is faux science while intelligent design is worth teach as an alternative - yeah ok I buy that!

  2. Game by CosmeticLobotamy · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    We all know how the comments are going to go. Everyone will get angry, no minds will be changed, and nothing new will be said. So moderators, I implore you to mod down every on-topic comment and up the off-topics and trolls. Spare us all this stupid argument again and fill this space with penis birds and goatse links. For the sake of the children.

  3. Re:Third Post by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    shut the fuck up

  4. Yeah, but... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    when has a neo-con accepted the blame for anything that they do?
    1. How is the budget?
    2. Where are those nuclear WMD?
    3. Where is the democracy over at Iraq?
    4. Why were we attack on 9/11?
    5. Why the gag order on Sibel Edwards?
    6. Why a 2 front war when we have not caught Bin Ladin yet?
    7. Why are several traitors being tolerated in the white house?
    8. Where are the anthrax manufactuers who spread it after 9/11?
    9. Why is it, that we only lose shuttles during neo-cons times?
    10. How is our national budget again?
    11. How is our economy?

    Neocons refuse to accept blame.

    The planet did not experience "dramtic" global warming of this scale. It appears that our current changes are the fastest they have been.
  5. Re:Third Post by gnuorder · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    We scientists (I'm not really a scientist, I just play one on the internets) are glad you finally stopped denying that the climate is changing. What convinced you, the volumes of evidence or the latest poll results of your constituents? BTW, how is that whole neocon "world is round is just a theory" thing coming? They teaching "world is flat" along side "world is round" in public schools yet?

  6. Can you spot the born-again zealot? by Moraelin · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    I'm not going to even try to be diplomatic about it: basically your whole post, like most of the eco-scare propaganda, boils down to "everyone who disaggrees with my Holy Truth is an heretic, and furthermore _paid_ to attack our Holy Truth."

    Which, sad to say, isn't how science works. Science has _no_ absolute set-in-stone sacred truths. In science you're _supposed_ to question everything, regardless of why. (Research into, say, magnetic materials paid for by IBM isn't any less valid than any other research, just because it's paid for by a corporation.) Science is that-a-way, absolute truths that noone should dare question are that other way, through the door marked "Religion."

    And another thing these whole pseudo-science political/religious groups don't seem to get either: science isn't a prom-queen popularity contest either. Whether a theory looks valid or not, that will be decided by scientists, based on the data it has. Not by piling enough "it contradicts my _dogma_, so let's drown it into self-righteous protests" pieces of garbage like what you just wrote.

    Do _you_ have a Ph.D. in the domain? I'm willing to bet the answer is "nope". Yet you feel qualified to judge someone and their calculations (which you probably didn't even see, much less understand) and damn them just because they contradict with what your religious leaders told you. It _has_ to be some sinister plot, because god forbid that your religion could possibly be less than 100% right, or that its answers might be anything less than 100% definitive.

    Yes, it may be wrapped in pretentious-sound pseudo-science babble, and use funny graphs as its holy symbols, but religion it is. I don't care how many words it borrowed (and perverted) from the real science, the moment it has definitive truths that noone should dare question, it's nowhere _near_ being science any more.

    So which is the real scientist? Well, after reading that "everyone disaggreeing with me is a paid astroturfer" piece of brain-damage, it sure as hell isn't you. So go back to your "church of the global warming", and leave judging who's a scientist and who isn't to the real scientists.

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  7. Re:Word from Chicken Little by Kaydet81 · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    The climate on the planet earth is about five degrees warmer than it was at the peak of the last glaciation twenty thousand years ago.

    Bull. Who measured that? You assume too much.

  8. Re:Word From the Whitehouse by bizitch · · Score: -1, Flamebait

    Yes yes your communist agitprop is funny ...

    HA HA HA HEE HEE HEE

    Also very well thought out and articulated

    Yes I can see it now - with witty posts like that, I'm sure the Democrats can't possibly lose the next election.

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  9. Enough.... by lysium · · Score: -1, Flamebait
    This is the second thread today where I wanted to slap you like a bitch after reading the shit that falls from your mouth.

    Welcome to the foe list, you stupid cunt.

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  10. Re:CAN YOU SPOT THE REAL SCIENTIST? by Loopy · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    In spite of its irrelevance, class warfare just never gets old, does it?

  11. Re:Yeah by Snaller · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    The only one who made an ass of himself is you. How the fuck is anyone supposed to know WHAT YOU THOUGHT. The only thing anyone has to go by is WHAT YOU WROTE.

    Idiot.

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