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Firefox Hits 80,000,000 Downloads

asa writes "It's been nine months since the release of Firefox 1.0 and with tens of millions of users we most certainly are taking back the web. Today our Firefox web browser hit the 80,000,000 downloads mark. You can see the live counter over at SpreadFirefox.com."

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  1. Obvious question by syntaxglitch · · Score: 5, Interesting

    ...how many of those downloads are unique users, vs. prior users downloading a new version?

    1. Re:Obvious question by Omnieiunium · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That is what I thought as well. I know many times I have re-installed Mozilla / Firefox by just re-downloading the install file from that site. I have also done this on multiple computers. So I have easily contributed to at least 20 of those downloads despite being only one person.

    2. Re:Obvious question by slashdotnickname · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The point isn't exactly what the number means (80 000 000 unique downloads vs. 80 000 000 downloads by a crazed fan), but that the number is increasing, and therefore so much Firefox use to some extent.

      If nobody knows what the numbers mean then parading the numbers around is meaningless! (duh) Seems almost silly having to point that out...

      Now before anyone mods me down as a troll, let me explain my side... I use firefox on both my windows and linux boxes, ever since 0.9x, so I'd honestly be happy to hear it's popularity is increasing but these "numbers" are suspicious as hell. I know that, personally, I've had to download a full ff with each version. So that's at least 10 full downloads for me, plus I've downloaded it on 2 boxes at work.

      The bottom line, I love Firefox... the adblock and web developer plugins make it far superior to IE or Konqueror... but I'd rather be disapointed by the truth then fooled by deceptive reporting.

      This topic has been discussed a good dozen times already on slashdot. The same conclusion is reached every time.

      How can you say that if valid questions regarding these "numbers" are still being brought up? Clearly no definite conclusion as been reached yet. My question to you is why, if your confidence on Firefox's success is solid, would you not care about "what the numbers mean"?

      This whole debate smells of people willing to give up their respect for the truth if it means their side wins.

    3. Re:Obvious question by SolidGround · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If you look at http://ff.asbjorn.it/hourly.php you'll see a significant spike on the 12 or 13th and another spike on the 20th.

      1.0.5 was released the 12th, 1.0.6 was released the 20th. The download stats have always peaked whenever there is an update in the past as well.

      So updates clearly do affect the number and make it of little value to anyone except for marketing purposes.

    4. Re:Obvious question by matt2kjones · · Score: 1, Interesting

      People may download each realease as it comes out, eg, 1.0.1, 1.0.2, 1.0.3, etc..... but think of how many people use the packages shipped with distributions such as ubuntu, gentoo, etc

      those downloads & updates wont get counted on firefox site, so im guessing the download count is actually way way higher

    5. Re:Obvious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Ah, but then you have people that install from CDs with magazines, so you get people who use it that have downloaded it more than once, and people that use it that have never downloaded it.

      So it works both ways.

    6. Re:Obvious question by vettemph · · Score: 2, Interesting

      How many distro's download it once and let many thousands of people use firefox without downloading it from mozilla.org?

      Count me as one.

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  2. 80,000,000 downloads... by dj245 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    not 80,000,000 users. I've probably downloaded the various versions of Opera at least 20 times, between new versions and new installs of Windows. The actual number of users is far lower.

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    1. Re:80,000,000 downloads... by AngryElmo · · Score: 5, Interesting

      On the other hand, I've probably downloaded it as many times as you (maybe a few less), but I've installed it on 900 PC's as the default browser...

  3. Re:IE is still quite dominant by dasil003 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    My weblogs show that IE is still the dominant browser, even though my two sites are primarily trafficked by those who are tech-savvy (who you think would be using a browser other than IE).

    How about posting some numbers? I run a few medium University sites (1k-5k daily visitors) with a decidedly non-techy focus and the last couple months have seen IE fall under 80% (not counting hits by the web developers and other department staff).

    Obviously IE is still dominant in absolute terms, but there's a huge difference between 95% (where we were 4 years ago) and 80%.

  4. Firefox Usage about 5% by bahwi · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Firefox Usage is about 5% and growing.

    Not much not much.

    But, at a store, you do not randomly kick out 1 out of every 20 people who walk in.

    5% means nothing, 1 out of 20 means much more. And growing just means it's something to pay even more attention to.

    1. Re:Firefox Usage about 5% by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Maybe not. FF LOST share last month while IE grew. http://www.infoworld.com/article/05/08/12/HNfirefo xloses_1.html

  5. Am I the only one... by Otter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...still using straight Mozilla? Maybe I just haven't played with Firefox enough to get it set up the way I want but I find the Mozilla interface much more comfortable.

  6. This is news? by iignotus · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mod me flamebait, but do you have to make a headline on the front page whenever they hit a small milestone? Perhaps only posting when they've hit things like 50,000,000, 75,000,000, 100,000,000 etc., would allow for more timely news?

    We all know that the counter is steadily increasing and that the user base is growing rapidly -- but must this much news space be devoted to one subject?

  7. Firefox Loses Market Share to IE... by antdude · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't get too excited! According to Broadband Reports and ComputerWorld: "The streak of Mozilla's Firefox browser gaining market share from Microsoft's Internet Explorer has come to a grinding halt in July. For the first time since Firefox Version 1.0 made its debut, Internet Explorer was able to regain some lost ground. Firefox's market share shrunk to 8.07% in July from 8.71% in June, while Internet Explorer grew its share to 87.2% in July from 86.56% the previous month."

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    1. Re:Firefox Loses Market Share to IE... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Here I go to anger the slashdot community...

      The reason why their downloads have slowed might be because people are finding out that firefox isn't as secure as it's been played out to be.

      Secondly, from my experience of using it, it's a constantly crashing piece of crap on top of being incredibly slow.

      I think a lot of people have been blinded into thinking it's this awesome browser while trying to ignore all its weaknesses.

      I actually prefer opera...I think it has a much better built in security with the ability for the user to specifically mark information as being private along with having a much better user interface. Having said that, opera also tends to be slow. So when I just want to some quick browsing, I prefer IE, which is much faster than either firefox or opera.

      Yes IE has some problems with security, but many patches have been put into place which now, imo, makes it no less secure than firefox.

      Security problems are so overrated...run a decent firewall, be fairly responsible with what you visit and open on the internet, and your chances of having any problems are extremely small (although screaming "fire" with security problems makes a great marketing scheme for firefox, even though it's starting to backfire now).

      Lastly, with what I've read about the reengineering of IE7, it might actually be way ahead of the game in security along with being stable and fast...what a concept.

      Let the bashing begin.

  8. Re:IE is still quite dominant by XO · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Before my site went down last week for no obvious reason (and is still down), my highest traffic was from:

    MSNbot
    Googlebot
    Yahoobot
    Opera
    Something Mozilla based

    IE didn't even register.

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  9. Yay, now get back to work and fix those bugs. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Lots of downloads are nice and all, but there's some serious bug issues to fix, like memory leaks.

    It seems every day now that FF will randomly max out the CPU for around half a minute at a time. It does this around 5 times a day it seems. I have Win2K with FF version 1.06, but it's been doing that the last few upgrades.

  10. This is a little off topic... by TooncesTheCat · · Score: 2, Interesting

    People that complain about the ads at the top of the trial versions of Opera are complete faggots. If a company wants to give you a free trial of something they are going to at least either disable something / add something annoying / or limit number of uses.

    Why is it when Google used context sensitive ads in Gmail people did not complain half as much as they do about Opera's free trials. Opera is loads better / faster / more stable. Most of the Firefox "innovations" came from Opera.

    People say that Opera only sucks because it costs money, how many people in the open source community / Slashdot actually paid for their version of Windows? Probably less than 4%. I bought Opera a long time ago and have stuck with it ever since. If you want Opera so bad just google for a serial.

    Opera > Firefox in every way possible.

    Someone should start http://www.spreadopera.com/

    Opera's yearly earnings are a testament to how badass the browser is. People are willing to pay for something in that niche ( the browser market ) that they could easily get for free ( Firefox / IE ) Thats a testament to how great Opera is.

  11. On the other hand... by the_rajah · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've downloaded a single time and installed on multiple computers, some via network and others not on the network by using a "Utility" disk that I carry with me to install certain applications without having to go online unprotected when I'm cleaning up a compromised system or getting a new one ready to use. Some of the other applications on that CD are, Ad-Aware, Spybot, AVG antivirus, Zone Alarm firewall.

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  12. I downloaded at least 30 times by Donny+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    In the past 12 months I have downloaded FireFox at least 30 times.

    In addition to that, I have *updated* it (on several systems that I own (and re-install) about 10-15 times.

    Perhaps I'm more active than Average Joe, but you get the picture...

  13. Re:In other news.... by rjshields · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I for one prefer mozilla classic suite, with bundled email and composer
    Firefox has an easier transition from IE. The menu and toolbar structure is more similar. I don't think it's "dumbed down" as you say, but reorganised and more logical. Also, the download size is smaller.
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  14. Re:In other news.... by abandonment · · Score: 2, Interesting

    one thing that's always bugged me is that i used the full mozilla suite prior to using firefox and briefly trying out thunderbird.

    firefox and thunderbird offer to import IE and/or outlook / outlook express settings & email but don't even offer the option of importing mozilla suite info.

    i've since heard that you can just 'point' firefox at mozilla's settings and it will pick up the bookmarks, but how is the average user supposed realize this kind of thing?

    particularly with thunderbird / mozilla - if i happened to start using the mozilla suite, and wanted to try thunderbird next, it is by no means intuitive or apparent if i can get my email from one program to another...to this day i'm still using mozilla as my mail and firefox for browsing because i don't want to risk losing my email because i decided to try pointing thunderbird at my mozilla mail and have it screw up or blow away my email...

    for the opposite view, i use mozilla for my email and firefox for my browsing - but there is no way to get mozilla mail to open url links in anything but mozilla's browser... open source developer whine about microsoft not playing nice with other programs, but this is the most 'lock in' type behavior i've ever seen...

    even in outlook express you can get your links opening in firefox or another browser, but mozilla suite assumes that it is the only browser in the world and doesn't even give you a chance to try and open links in other programs.

    that said, i did try thunderbird for a week or so but then it crashed and blew away my email inbox (with all of the emails in it) and i haven't gone back...i don't need my business emails being blown away randomly ;}