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LinuxWorld Highlights

Jan Stafford writes "Bernard Golden over at SearchEnterpriseLinux was wowed by the many hardware and software products on display at LinuxWorld. Among the highlights include Blackdog, a complete Linux server the size of a deck of playing cards and Astaro a bundled security suite designed for corporations. He also outlines the good, bad and funny trends of the convention."

77 comments

  1. Toaster! by PakProtector · · Score: 4, Funny

    What about the toaster powered by netBSD that was shown at LinuxWorld?

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    1. Re:Toaster! by Crixus · · Score: 1

      That product will never be the same until Kiki starts promoting it, again. ;-)

          Or IS she?

        Rich...

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  2. Boring by daniil · · Score: 1

    Really, it seems that the event itself was just as boring as the writeup. I would have at least expected a description of the (rumored) fistfight between Linus Torvalds and Bruce Perens over (and in) the patent pool.

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    1. Re:Boring by jmrSudbury · · Score: 1

      Does this mean it wasn't successful?

    2. Re:Boring by Otter · · Score: 1

      I dunno -- do you look at Linus in a bathing suit and think "Gee, if this only involved Bruce Perens! And patents!"

  3. Re:Info by bringmewater · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So how is it a complete server if it requires another PC to operate?

  4. Re:Info by rholliday · · Score: 1

    Yeah, a lack of any pictures is suprising, especially as he makes such a big deal about all the hardware at the show.

    And where are our gratuitous "Male booth dolly" cheesecake shots!?

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  5. Male Booth Dolly by colmore · · Score: 4, Funny

    from the article:

    "I knew that vendors hired attractive women to staff their booths, hoping to attract the mostly-male attendees of technical conferences, but I had no idea that the subterfuge extended to the other half of the species. Live and learn!"

    Or maybe they're just extending to the other *tenth* of the species, if you catch my drift.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld would say.

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    1. Re:Male Booth Dolly by RobotRunAmok · · Score: 0, Troll

      the other *tenth* of the species

      Maybe in San Francisco, where the event was held.

      The *tenth* number species-wide is a fallacy invented by the marketing guys of certain magazines and cable channels so as to increase the amount they can charge for advertisements.

      Of course, the minority does not dispute it because it serves their purpose, and the majority who don't believe it keep their mouths shut out of political correctness.

      But, yeah, it's an ad sales thing...

    2. Re:Male Booth Dolly by EvilIdler · · Score: 2, Funny

      Let's just call them boothbobs.

    3. Re:Male Booth Dolly by colmore · · Score: 2, Informative

      The ten percent figure is from the Kinsey institutes landmark study 50 years ago. Not from "marketing" as you say. Recent studies put the figure a bit lower, but ten percent is in pop culture, so it was in my joke.

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    4. Re:Male Booth Dolly by Bios_Hakr · · Score: 1

      That study was flawed. The sample was taken from groups that were more likely to engage in "unusual" sexual practices.

      Yes, I know he talked to many people from all walks of life.

      However, the people who were more likely to speak of their sexual habits also tended to be more liberal in thoes habits.

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    5. Re:Male Booth Dolly by Flunitrazepam · · Score: 1

      Hey where did that statistic come from anyway? I have heard of the Ten Percenters or whatever they are called, but I wonder who made the claim that 10% of the population have homosexual urges. Does it extend to bisexuals as well? Does it include only those who have given or received penis in various improper locations?

      Just curious (no pun intended)

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  6. blackdog... I want one! by tulimulta · · Score: 5, Informative

    That Blackdog is amazing for just $200. I want one!

    1. Re:blackdog... I want one! by TarryTops · · Score: 1

      And it's gonna cost me a lot less in euros...:-)

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    2. Re:blackdog... I want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      That Blackdog is amazing for just $200. I want one!

      Isn't the CTO one of the bad guys in the whole SCO vs. Linux lawsuits?

    3. Re:blackdog... I want one! by Miguelito · · Score: 1

      Yeah, saw that and would love to play with one too. I can see using it at friend's/relative's houses when visiting and needing to log into work, without needing my laptop with me. Could keep ssh keys on it that you then change after returning home too.

      Biggest gripe I had with them... stupid use of a mechanical bull as their eye grabbing marketing idea.

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  7. THIS lwce was the geeks vs suits tipping point? by anuj · · Score: 5, Insightful

    seems like the last one he was at was '00 in san jose. now THAT was a party. ever since has been drab, and this one was just about as average as the rest of the west coast/bay area ones since.

    although, yeah, .org pavilion being relocated to the mezzanine was lame - but it was still good to be able to walk up to the folks at gentoo, kde, moz and eff and give them the props they deserved.

    ~A

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    1. Re:THIS lwce was the geeks vs suits tipping point? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Linux 2005 very much a geeks event, and yet it only made it to the linux section and only had 3 posts. Go figure.

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    2. Re:THIS lwce was the geeks vs suits tipping point? by dragonman97 · · Score: 1

      Actually, that's something that disappointed me a lot - I guess I didn't bother to consult a map or guide, and never found it 'by chance.' Therefore, I was rather bummed to learn of the NetBSD toaster *after* I got back. I would have loved to have see the Debian & Mozilla folks as well...oh well... I still thought it was a pretty good show - an improvement from a small decline in the past. Heck, I thought the improvement of some personnel was a pretty good indication that there's some more money flowing into the Linux field. ;)

    3. Re:THIS lwce was the geeks vs suits tipping point? by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

      It was a strange segregation of the two sides of Linux-- big commercial vendors downstairs, OSS projects upstairs, tucked away in the corner.

      This might be a common theme at the new Moscone annex-- I attended a big coin show at the same building few weeks back and they did the same thing: Downstairs was reserved for commercial booths, upstairs was reserved for nonprofits and government organizations (US Mint, Canadian Mint, etc). All the interesting stuff was upstairs-- downstairs was full of coin sharks wanting to rip you off.

      This could be a blessing in disguise-- upstairs was sort of a mini-expo within the Big Expo.

      At least this way the OSS projects did not need to speak over IBM/Sun/Novell/RedHat/HP all giving their LOUD demonstrations at the same time, each booth trying to be louder then the other booths. You could not hear the poor guys at the O'Reilly or any of the smaller downstairs booths at all.

      I spent 1 hour downstairs, where I was promptly ignored by most of the salespeople (However, Novell & Sun were exceptionally nice) and 3 hours upstairs, where I spoke to all the dotOrg projects. The people upstairs were all very talkative & informative, even at 3:00PM on Day 3 :)

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  8. Re:Info by wed128 · · Score: 1

    The 256 MB model is $199 and the 512 MB model is $239.

    Yes, i'm a Karma Whore

  9. Blackdog seems neat by TarryTops · · Score: 2, Interesting

    maybe i'll order one myself. They ought to put up some demo's there. ;-)

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  10. Re:Info by SimilarityEngine · · Score: 5, Informative

    Looking at the website, I don't think it's really intended to be used as a server - at least not primarily. It is, however, an amazingly cool little portable PC - powered over another PC's USB, steals the host's input/output devices - how cool is that! I'm quite tempted to buy one myself. Just a pity that it only has 64Mb onboard RAM....

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  11. Re:blackdog... I _DONT_ want one! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    The BlackDog Mobile Personal Server is proprietary technology developed by Realm Systems, Inc. and is patent pending.

    That sounds ominous, don't think I'll bother grepping for the patent app, my next bout of depression isn't scheduled until the next software/biz method patent story hits slashdot.

    More concerning, the shopping cart requires javascript and the contact link requires javascript. Here's a fucking clue for these pupps: javascript is blocked by our corporate firewall for security reasons, if a company wants to interest me in a server app with integrated (biometric) security they need to make sure their website works for people who work in locked-down labs. Here's another clue, this oversite (sic) casts major doubts in my mind about the security of the device itself. biometrics of any kind.

  12. Just as knowledgable as tech support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After my latest experience with tech support for a major hardware vendor, I'm convinced that the male booth dolly is just as knowledgable as the tech support guys. Of course he's better looking and smells better.

  13. More Detail Here by dsginter · · Score: 1
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  14. Tenth reference by benhocking · · Score: 2, Funny

    And here the first thought that came to my mind when the "tenth" reference was made was that a tenth of the participants of LinuxWorld are female!

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    1. Re:Tenth reference by Mad+Merlin · · Score: 2, Funny
      And here the first thought that came to my mind when the "tenth" reference was made was that a tenth of the participants of LinuxWorld are female!

      Same here. 10% seems a little high for either of those populations however...

  15. Double Your Pleasure by cmplus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Seems like I've seen a similiar specification for the Blackdog somewhere before.

    What I don't understand is why the MMC card on these devices is limited to 512mb. Sandisk and others already offer 1, 2, and 4GB high-speed CF cards. Is it an issue of pre-formatting, the software driver, or something else I'm missing? It would be kind of cool to have an external RAID device consisting of multiple CF cards plugged into a "CF bus."

    1. Re:Double Your Pleasure by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      MMC has working linux drivers whereas SD and SDIO do not. Second the SDRAM, CPU and FLASH memory are on the same silicon chip and the 1GB offered by toshiba is not yet stable enough for a workable platform.

      The engineers are expecting it some time early next year.

    2. Re:Double Your Pleasure by BlackDogBoy · · Score: 1

      The on-board flash is limited to 512MB, the MMC/SD expansion is in addition to that and has no limit.

  16. Hmm... by mporcheron · · Score: 2, Informative

    Mentioning the fact that mambo (open source) actually beat Firefox 1.0.5, Linux Terminal Server Project and IBM's Derby 10.1 to the Best Open Source Solution award would have made this review slightly less incomplete.

    1. Re:Hmm... by LDoggg_ · · Score: 1

      Mambo is a really cool project and deserves an award. I just started using it a couple months ago and am really happy with it.

      The article could have at least mentioned that LTSP took Best In Show overall.

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  17. the REAL linuxworld highlight was Bruce by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Perens talking animatedly about software patents and saying that he had "cast a little a doom and gloom on this whole great show" by raising the issue of the dertrimental effect of software patnts on open source.

  18. One in Ten by Martin+Spamer · · Score: 1


    And here the first thought that came to my mind when the "tenth" reference was made was that a tenth of the participants of LinuxWorld are female!

    And I though it a reference to One in Ten and about unemployed Geeks.

  19. Re:Info by ytm · · Score: 1

    I still don't get why would I want one of these. I already have a PC with i/o devices, display and power. This portable thing doesn't work on its own. If it's about synchronizing files - I can carry a USB memory stick with me and keep my $HOME there.

    Could someone elighten me?

  20. Misinformed by Donny+Smith · · Score: 2, Interesting

    From TFA:

    "I was also impressed by Coraid, maker of ATA-over-Ethernet (AoE), hardware. The AoE protocol allows Ethernet-connected hard drives. What's so great about that? It offers the ability to build SANs without the cost and complexity of fibre channel or iSCSI. "

    Wow, wow, wow! Hold it right there!
    Let remind ourselves here that he uses the word "SAN" in a very loose sense.
    There's a heaven-and-sky difference between this and good old fibre channel SAN.
    I don't know who this pal is, but I figure were he familiar with the traditional SANs, he wouldn't have toss out the SAN word just like that.

    Then he sez:

    "Essentially, this allows machines to write data via a low-level Ethernet protocol using a machine's standard NIC card. To me, this offers the potential to allow SMBs to get access to SAN functionality previously unaffordable to them."

    About "previously unaffordable". It can't be more affordable than iSCSI (as the network and the adapters used are the same), so except for the novel (read: niche, unsupported, unreliable and most likely untested - especially when compared to the industry-standard and well-tested iSCSI protocol) protocol, I don't see how this can be attractive to any company, including the suicidal SMBs (SMEs).
    I mean, what would you use this kind of "SAN" for? ERP? Oracle? Mail? Never.

    It's too bad that he missed to call any of that stuff "mission-critical".

    Oh, well - typical Linux enthusiast attitude that makes IT people laugh. Then again, it's in line with what we usually get to read here.

    1. Re:Misinformed by rahlquist · · Score: 1

      What we need is cheap reliable SOHO AoE hardware. The average home users isnt going to buy a 3 U box with 12 drives. However a small 2 drive box with 1G/100Mb/10Mb capability for say $50-60 would be most welcome...

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    2. Re:Misinformed by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      did you follow the "ATA-over-Ethernet (AoE)" link? it goes to a page about "analog telephone adapter".

      I was left really baffled wondering what the fuck the product really was.

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    3. Re:Misinformed by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 1

      I saw that too. I think he tried to add a 'credible reference', but didn't bother to see if the link referenced the right 'ATA'. Hope he's hungry enough for the egg on his face.

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    4. Re:Misinformed by ectospasm · · Score: 1

      This article makes a good case for ATA over Ethernet. The main difference the article points out between AoE and iSCSI is that iSCSI is dependent upon TCP/IP, which has quite a bit of overhead associated with it.

      Whether it's better or not, I don't know. Just remember that every technology was once new.

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    5. Re:Misinformed by ecashin · · Score: 1

      If you're just thinking of network cards, then this makes sense: "It can't be more affordable than iSCSI (as the network and the adapters used are the same)." But the article author, Bernard Golden, may have meant that iSCSI is more expensive than AoE because of the cost of a TCP Offload Engine (TOE). These iSCSI host adapters cost hundreds of dollars per host. AoE doesn't require a TOE, having no TCP to do.

      Anyway, the way I read it he was calling iSCSI complicated, not expensive. Golden says, "It offers the ability to build SANs without the cost and complexity of fibre channel or iSCSI." I read that with an implied, "respectively," at the end. AoE requires almost no configuration compared with iSCSI, so that interpretation makes sense even if Golden wasn't thinking of expensive iSCSI host adapters.

    6. Re:Misinformed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      well the author got it a little off, even the coraid guys don't call it a SAN, they call it DNA, or more in tune with reality DNAS, direct network attached storage.

      it's a pretty sweet product, we have a few in the office, too bad the author screwed up so badly on semantics

  21. Re:Info by rahlquist · · Score: 1

    I still don't get why would I want one of these. I already have a PC with i/o devices, display and power. This portable thing doesn't work on its own. If it's about synchronizing files - I can carry a USB memory stick with me and keep my $HOME there.

    Hence the reason for the contest they are running for people to come up with the killer app for the hardware. One would think before going to the R&D cost of building such a device they would already have the 'killer app'.

    That said with its biometric device it could be the worlds largest high security key for your desktop. Or possibly a great transport for injecting that worm into any pc you run accross.....

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  22. Top that! by LoyalOpposition · · Score: 1
    a complete Linux server the size of a deck of playing cards

    In unrelated news Bicycle Company, Inc., announced a new rack-mountable version of its popular Deck of Playing Cards.

    -Loyal

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  23. Good. Now stop obsessing about small servers. by ArmorFiend · · Score: 1

    Almost any processor in any device can make a really small server. Heck, with enough time, I can probably convert my vacuum's embedded chip into a small server.

    Slashdot misses the point, as usual. Nobody wants or needs a small server. The entire point of a server is you stick it in some remote location, where it SERVES. You don't care how big it is AT ALL.

    A small 'desktop' computer? Now that's news.

  24. Re:Info by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For $50,000, I hope someone will come up with a good use for it.

  25. Re:Info by anomalous+cohort · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't it be better to boot with a live linux distro such as knoppix and save your session to a reasonable sized USB memory stick? You would be using a much more powerful computer and it would cost about one sixth the price.

  26. Re:Info by SimilarityEngine · · Score: 1

    Yeah, true, but don't forget the 'cool' factor. Also, the Blackdog device boots in 2 seconds! That's almost as fast as a ZX Spectrum!

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  27. Re:Info by RicktheBrick · · Score: 1

    I was hoping that my isp would generously give everyone of it's customers a terabyte hard drive. This hard drive would by read only though. The isp would than have a server within one mile of all its customers. This server than would have access to all of those hard drives or ten's of thousand of Terabytes of hard drive space. It would use this huge amount of space as a local cache for the internet. With that much storage it could transmit all the television or movies that people would desire. Than that spectrum of frequency could be used for other purposes.

  28. The Kinsey Report was marketing by brokeninside · · Score: 1

    Look at Kinsey's methodology. His sample was anything by random and it is difficult to argue that his sample is really representative of the US population at large. It is hard to escape the conclusion that Kinsey had an axe to grind and sensationalized his work in order to use it as a catalyst for the changes that he wanted to see in society.

    Most modern studies put the percentage of gays in the general population at somewhere between 1 in 20 and 1 in 100. The last time I looked into the research (some five years ago) there wasn't any well accepted figure. Things may have changed since then.

    1. Re:The Kinsey Report was marketing by Per+Bothner · · Score: 1
      Most modern studies put the percentage of gays in the general population at somewhere between 1 in 20 and 1 in 100.

      In the US more than 2% (of adult males at least) will describe themselves as primarily homosexual when asked by survey takers, exit polls, etc. (Sorry, no reference - just my memory of various figures.) Given the many people in the closet and in denial I think we can reasonably assume that the "real figure" is at least 2%. If you assumed a society where people would be free to have sex with and love whoever they want (and as many as they want), it is not unreasonable to guess the "real number" is at least 10%, and almost certainly so if you include bisexuals-who-prefer-the-same-sex. However, that is just a guess. The 2% figure seems pretty conservative.

      (I.e. I'm not disagreeing with you - just adding some context.)

  29. two-factor authorization? by Speare · · Score: 1
    Did anyone find the claim of two factors of authorization to be a bit odd? I mean, if holding the server in your hand constitutes a genuine "what you have" factor, how is that any different from having physical access to the hardware in ANY situation? My hard drive in my desktop machine is protected by "what you have" authentication, woo hoo.
    • Multi-Factor Authentication. BlackDog uses two strong authentication factors - "what you have" - the BlackDog device, and "who you are" - your biometric signature.
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    1. Re:two-factor authorization? by BlackDogBoy · · Score: 1

      Actually, It's three factor authentication if you want to require a password. Then you've got "have", "know" and "are".

      And yes, if you don't mind taking your hard drive with you everywhere you go, and it has PKI auth tokens not found elsewhere used to access back end services, then it is a possesion token for those services. Auto sign-on to such services is a perfect use for such a "toy".

  30. Re:Info by jonadab · · Score: 1

    > The 256 MB model is $199 and the 512 MB model is $239.

    Right, so basically I can carry around almost one CD's worth of data, except not really, because you presumably have to subtract whatever space the OS and applications take up. So it's like Knoppix with a USB key (or MandrakeMove), except it costs more and you don't have to reboot the host PC before and after each use -- oh, and you don't have to run netcardconfig to get on the network. Oh, and it's worthless as a rescue system because the host OS has to be running.

    What am I missing?

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  31. Sullen attitude of NETBSD folks by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    at the booth

  32. EnterpriseDB wins "Best Database Solution" by jadavis · · Score: 1

    The prestigious "Best Database Solution" award went to EnterpriseDB this year. The press release is here.

    EnterpriseDB is built upon the PostgreSQL database, and contributes what they create back to PostgreSQL (often immediately). One of the improvements they made to PostgreSQL is an Oracle compatibility layer.

    They competed against MySQL, Oracle, and IBM DB2.

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  33. BoothBob's in San Fran... by PenguinBoyDave · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Tell ya what...in San Fran, this might have been a good thing. I saw at least TWO guys wearing skirts. Not kilts mind you, but SKIRTS! Was the BoothBob there by mistake...or was it planned to attract the diversity that makes San Fran so cool. Not that there is anything wrong with that...

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  34. This guy must have been asleep during the show. by netik · · Score: 1

    I feel like this article missed a ton of other items that were at the show. Yeah, okay, ATAoE is cool, but there was way more there.

    The NetBSD toaster has already been mentioned, but what he neglected to discuss were some of the other offerings:

    - Splunk (www.splunk.com) an amazingly cool log searching system, which is basically google for system logs

    - The large number of companies offering huge disk arrays (19TB+) that ran directly on Linux. (Aberdeen and Pogo to name two)

    - The companies (communigate, others) who were actually offering systems to kill M$ Exchange

    - ActiveGrid, a GUI system for developing LAMP Applications. Very slick, easy interface.

    - Lots of companies offering embedded linux products and small form factor linux servers. "Linux Everywhere" seemed to be a common theme.

  35. I think ten percent is too high by brokeninside · · Score: 1

    Studies suggest that children raised by gay parents only have only a marginally increased likelihood of being gay when compared to children raised by straight parents. Given that children tend to adopt the beliefs and convictions of their parents with regards to politics and religion, even in environments where society is hostile to those beliefs and convictions, I would expect the numbers to be far higher rather than only marginally higher /if/ being raised in an environment that is supportive of being gay is a /significant/ contributing factor to being gay.

    I do think that we need to be wary of hidden biases. Self-description as a measurement is prone to societal bias. Like you pointed out, people may not be fully revealing to survey takers. This could be for any number of reasons. That said, societal bias is certainly changing in most of the US. If you're remembering the 2% figure correctly, and assuming that the studies you're remembering had a valid methodology, I would be surprised if the real number were any higher than 3 or 4%.

    1. Re:I think ten percent is too high by Per+Bothner · · Score: 1
      I would expect the numbers to be far higher rather than only marginally higher /if/ being raised in an environment that is supportive of being gay

      But they're not in such an environment. The homophobia of relatives, neighbors, teachers, friends can be quite intense, if subtle. And there are subtle pressures for children of gay parents to be or appear to be "straight": Gay parents might be afraid of being accused of corrupting their child, or being bad parents, or have internalized homophobia of their own.

      ... is a /significant/ contributing factor to being gay.

      It's difficult to measure who "is" gay. It's difficult even defining it; rhe numbers we have are people who will say they are gay to a stranger. That obviously is an under-count even of people who consider themselves to be gay. It's near-impossible to get a number of those who "really" are gay, or would be in a less homophobic (and generally sex-phobic) world.

  36. .org ghetto by Sfing_ter · · Score: 1

    Cue Elvis - "As the snow flies,On a cold and gray chicago mornin',A poor little baby child is born,
    In the ghetto"

    Ahem... I happened to make it up there only because I am a Mepis user, and was told that I could donate up there(and possibly meet Warren, Hi Warren)... Interesting. I did not not seeing FreeBSD up there, but i made the rounds to all the booths; Frightened some young EFFer by walking at him with a $20 dollar bill and just handing it to him. :) Firefox, KDE, Gnome, Xorg all up there and did not seem to be missing the happenings downstairs.

    Of note also, the Asian Distros/companies were up there also... hmmmmm.... Sun Wah Linux is a Chinese debian based distro looked quite impressive.

    I have been going to LWC since 1999 and when we first got the IBM and Novell glitz there is kind of fun, now it is just I don't know... DIRTY.

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  37. The ghetto... by Brandybuck · · Score: 1

    The .org pavilion was banished to an upstairs mezzanine. This caused many attendees to miss it. I felt that it sent a message that the .orgs are unimportant.

    I worked at the KDE booth. We were remarking on the steady but someone slow traffic. Then I went downstairs (for my turn at snagging swag and Redhat chocolate bars) and discovered where all the people were. Just a tenth of those people upstairs would have been cool. Oh well.

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  38. Re:Info by Crispy+Critters · · Score: 1
    "I can carry a USB memory stick with me and keep my $HOME there."

    But with this you also have /usr. Carrying around my home directory is only useful if I know I'll have a Linux box on which to read it. Carrying around all my data plus the applications and being able to access it on anyone's Windoze machine is completely different.

    Carrying this could replace lugging around a 10 lb laptop.

  39. Nevertheless, guys are kinky in lots of ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The numbers I have seen based on self-reported behavior of men over a period of 3 years prior to the survey (IIRC) showed about 3% exclusively homosexual, 6% primarily homosexual and 20% had had some homosexual experience during that time. The numbers were much lower for Blacks. That was a recent study with several thousand participants.

    Curiously, the percentage of men who have a greater erectile response to child porn than to adult female porn is also about 20%, and the percentage of male college students who say they would have sex with a prepubescent child if they knew they would not get caught is over 6%. These were two single studies by reputable academics with on the close order of 100 subjects each.

    "Normal" and "deviant" are social judgements which vary considerably between cultures and eras, but balls and brains often don't take notice.

  40. I don't disagree by brokeninside · · Score: 1

    I just don't think that the consequences of a different environment would be a difference on an order of magnitude. I also think you paint a bleaker picture of US society than really exists. Certainly, there are areas of the US that are extremely hostile to gays and lesbians. But there also also large swaths of the US where gays and lesbian lifestyles are accepted as being perfectly normal.

  41. Damn. I didn't even know about the mezzanine. by munpfazy · · Score: 1

    As someone who just blundered past one morning on the way to work with an exibit only pass, I didn't have a clue there were community groups on the second floor.

    I was wondering where the locals and nonprofits went. Not that there were all that many of them in previous years, but I always found at least a few interesting conversations on the floor. Guess not bothering to pick up a conference guide book was a mistake.

    I've got nothing against big-money IT-centric vendors. Hell, it's more than that. I'm very glad they exist. As the most mainstream, lucrative, and visible aspect of FOSS in general and Linux in particular, they do a lot of good for the community. But, they sure do make for a boring floor show.