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Henrico County iBook Sale Creates iRiot

pikester writes "What do you get when you combine 1000 used iBooks being sold for $50 and 1000 people desperately wanting to buy them? You get an iStampede of course! Add into the mix one guy who watches too much wrestling and one gal who re-lived her first Backstreet Boys concert by wetting herself and you'll being looking for video of the whole thing. CNN has some extra details as well." From the article: "Officials opened the gates at 7 a.m., but some already had been waiting for hours in line. When the gates opened, it became a terrifying mob scene. People threw themselves forward, screaming and pushing each other. A little girl's stroller was crushed in the stampede. Witnesses said an elderly man was thrown to the pavement, and someone in a car tried to drive his way through the crowd."

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  1. Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by N8F8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The obvious point here should be that the countyr was sellign them too cheap. Wasting taxpayer dollars. They should have sold them on ebay where they could have gotten much more than $50 without the liability of riots.

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    1. Re:Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by bnenning · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. Government officials ignorant of basic economics, what are the odds?

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    2. Re:Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The obvious point here should be that the county was sellign them too cheap

      Exactly - this obviously wasn't an efficient marketplace. It's possible the county was doing it almost as a public service, underpricing for the citizens of the county. Of course most of those people rushing for the PCs probably plan on selling them anyways - watch for a rash of iBook auctions.

    3. Re:Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by ergo98 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The taxpayers already paid for them once. Why should they have to pay twice?

      Because the underpricing doesn't benefit all taxpayers, but rather a small-subsection of them. If the county charged fair market value (which I wouldn't think would much more for a 3+ year old notebook, but the crowds say otherwise) then the funds would go in the general coffer, benefitting all taxpayers (as a tax-funded institution).

    4. Re:Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by smooth+wombat · · Score: 4, Insightful
      It's terrible to see people behave like this, and I also fault the authorities for failing to provide adequate crowd control.

      If the people would have behaved themselves there wouldn't have been a need for crowd control.

      Unless you're trying to imply that human beings are incapable of acting like the most intelligent creature on the planet as some say we are.

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    5. Re:Too Cheap -Fraud and Abuse by miahrogers · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The computers should have been auctioned or a lottery could have been set up to allow only a certain number to purchase them. The way it was setup was very irresponsible -- like throwing 150,000 dollars cash into the middle of a busy street!! (Really, if you guess a $200 market value on each of these that's ($200-$50)*$1000=$150,000 dollars into the street).

  2. A few obvious questions by deft · · Score: 4, Insightful

    1. What about those laptops couldnt still run spelling programs? Are the kids teaching programs really running framerates they cant handle? :)

    2. Who is the moron that decided that the school didnt need the $? I'm sure those laptops could have paid for quite a few of the new computers they seem to need.

    3. Any left?

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  3. Government waste by linuxwrangler · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Weren't these iBooks school district property? I guess it's good to see that the schools in Henrico County are so flush with cash that they can dump their iBooks at what is obviously below market value plus pay for whatever damages and lawsuits may result from their lack of planning.

    I've been at similar mega-sales and all it took to prevent chaos was to pass out numbers to people as they arrive then let people enter in small batches. Problem solved and injuries prevented for the cost of a couple dollars of paper.

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  4. Re:Disgusting by shotfeel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do the equivalent in just about any country, and you'll end up with the same thing.

    Sad? Yes. American only? No.

  5. Dumbass. by s20451 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Meanwhile, in Sudan, Ethiopia, Niger etc. many people who are starving are patiently waiting for food supplies to be handed out.

    1. When the UN provides food aid, they are usually smart enough to bring along well-armed peacekeeping soldiers to prevent riots.

    2. In those cases where the UN did not bring said peacekeepers, food riots have often occurred.

    3. In those cases where the food riots did not occur, it is usually because the people were so chronically malnourished that they were too weak to riot.

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  6. Behave themselves? Look at morons in an Airport by purduephotog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Seriously, check out the group mentality of baggage pickup.

    Everyone stands a little ways off, but the MOMENT the belt turns on it turns into a shoving match where EVERYONE MUST BE NEXT TO THE BELT!

    Instead of standing 3 steps back, waiting till luggage that looks like yours comes by, walking up, checking it, leaving or pulling it...

    Now they get into shoving matches to yank the luggage free and knock their 'neighbors' (whom get pissed off) while trying to remove said dead weight.

    So yes, people act responsibly? Never. It's not possible. Any single person will act responsible, but the moment you remove the threat of punishment a free-for-all mentality of "I can get away with this, and tough shit" is born.

  7. Re:more information by Obfuscant · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Henrico Co. Schools of VA decided to change laptop suppliers ... The result was a couple thousand laptops of no use.

    Excuse me, but how does a decision to change suppliers of future purchases make currently owned equipment "of no use?" Do the iBooks figure out that their new brothers are not Apple and suddenly stop working? Does the software on them suddenly stop functioning?

    Failing to plan for a herd of vultures rioting to get almost free computers is not the crime here. The crime is the attitude that perfectly functional computing hardware is suddenly "of no use", especially coming from a taxpayer funded institution. And certainly when that institution typically cries because they don't have enough money.

    There is no reason not to use the iBooks until they croak, and then replace them with new Dells. It would teach kids that there really is more to life than Microsoft and Intel, and allow them a choice of which OS they preferred. Schoolkids are not processing gigabyte datasets that requires terrabyte disks and gigahertz CPUs. They're browsing the web and typing book reports. I'm sure an iBook can handle that.

    If I were a resident of that county, the next time the schools put a millage up for a vote I'd remind my neighbors of the profligate waste demonstrated by this nonsense and campaign for a no vote. And a replacement of the moronic school board.

  8. Now imagine a line for food... by GPLDAN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This gives you an idea of just how fine a line there is between civilization and complete anarchy. Imagine a fuel crisis much worse than the Carter era, where only a select few can have access to gas each week. Or food shortages. Or a mass bio-hazard.

    Better yet, the bird flu. A mass epidemic. Imagine the scene at hospitals. This is why crisis management and homeland security dollars are important - too bad they are being treated by politicians as just another thing to pork barrel. We spend money buying firefighters in Wyoming HazMat suits and trucks - but a nuke in NYC would be catch us completely un prepared.

    I always enjoy these little reminders of how close the American public is to hysteria.

    1. Re:Now imagine a line for food... by t_allardyce · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Absolutely, in fact its said that in reality a 'dirty bomb' would be pretty harmless, but the biggest cause of danger would be the panic and anarchy it would create, hampering the clean-up operation - people become selfish at the slightest hint of opportunity or trouble if they think they can save themselves or get something for free. In some cases they are better off doing what they are told, but in those scary scenarios like a nuclear attack you're going to steal the nearest car and not take your foot off the pedal for 50 miles.

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  9. Re:Aftermath of fraud? by dal20402 · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Apple computers seem to hold their value too well.

    On identical hardware OS 10.3 ran *faster* than 10.2, and 10.4 would have been faster still if not for Spotlight.

    That goes a long way toward explaining why Macs hold their value better than average Windows boxes.

    (And, yes, I know that the old Windows boxes are still good for all kinds of applications using other OSes -- but that market is awfully small even compared with the market for used Macs.)

  10. Re:Reminds me of a WWWF moment. by Golias · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Completely missing from the story is one important detail:

    Who was the DUMBASS from this school's administration that decided to sell 1000 laptops for less than 1/15th of what they could have fetched on eBay?

    Hell, even a rip-off joint like Computer Rennaisance would have given them about $200 a pop for those things.

    Whoever made this call should be fired.

    Not just for causing a riot which anybody should have seen coming...

    Not just for dumping those spiffy iBooks and making the teachers there settle for crappy Dells (probably Latitude 600 seris, if they are very lucky...)

    All that, yes, but also for throwing away more than $700,000 dollars worth of school assets.

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  11. Virginia is a commonwealth by morcheeba · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you want to get technical, Virginia doesn't call itself a state -- it's a commonwealth. The US has three other commonwealths - Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Kentucky.

  12. Re:Reminds me of a WWWF moment. by Nogami_Saeko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well, since it was taxpayer money that paid for them, they probably were just disposing of them rather than trying to get top dollar. Sort of a community service if you will...

    Personally, if I had known that sort of riot would happen, I woulda just camped-out with refreshments and a video camera and enjoyed the spectacle (don't need an ibook).

    And they could've easily avoided creating a problem in the first place by just giving people numbered tickets in the order they arrived - then calling them out in order when they were ready to sell. If someone doesn't respond within a few minutes of the number being called, they lose their spot and someone else farther down the list gets called. Simple and smart.

    Doesn't take a rocket-scientist to figure out how to do this without causing a riot...

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