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Google Instant Messenger Coming Really (or Not?)

bach37 writes "Google is rumored to launch its own instant messenger tomorrow." Other sources are reporting that talk.google.com is running jabber. Of course we've also had stories about all this being rumors

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  1. 180 degrees? by BlackCobra43 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Didn't Google explicitely claim they were not making an IM service?

    Why would they make one anyway? Doesn't really seem to fit with their current strategy unless they tie it into gmail somehow.

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    1. Re:180 degrees? by Mr2cents · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The error messages are different between http://ahjfgdf.google.com/ and http://talk.google.com/ , so there is something going on..

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    2. Re:180 degrees? by the_mighty_$ · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why would anyone use an AdWare WebBrowser, when there are completely free alternatives, like Firefox, without the ads to piss you off?

      Both you and this chap seem to be thinking along the same line.

      However, I think you folks are wrong. Google *could* convince people to use their browser IF they bundled it with some other useful software/service. For example, if they came out with a free service that allowed people to voice chat from their computer to any regular phone and bundled it with the browser, tons of people would switch to Google Browser.

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    3. Re:180 degrees? by Andrewkov · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Gmail is almost IM .. With the threading of the messages and the speed of it, I've had very rapid conversations going back and forth. No video or audio mind you. But having GIM tied into GMail seems like a natural evolution. (I think I just coined a phrase, GIM, haha).

    4. Re:180 degrees? by loconet · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Interesting. The reply is:

      <stream:stream from="gmail.com" id="E454F69B" xmlns:stream="http://etherx.jabber.org/streams" xmlns="jabber:client">

      Notice the "from". It seems to be related to gmail some how?

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  2. if it comes out... by mix_master_mike · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It will have to tie into the new sidebar (update?) and will probably link to gmail accounts - which means that it could be BETA only? In any regard, I'm excited for it, pending its real.

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    1. Re:if it comes out... by XMyth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wouldn't have to be an update to add it to the sidebar....you can already download additional panels for the sidebar...that's all it'd be.

  3. Someone at google... by LordEd · · Score: 4, Interesting

    configured talk.google.com to redirect to www.google.com/talk. Its currently an empty page, but perhaps that means something.

  4. VOIP dialing from buddy list by Elpepe55 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Apparently this will feature VOIP as direct competition to Skype.

    1. Re:VOIP dialing from buddy list by asliarun · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I think so too. Tie this with the fact that Google's buying a whole lot of dark fibre, it makes sense. They've already released the upgraded desktop search along with the sidebar. Deploying the IM through their toolbar or sidebar would be a piece of cake for Google. The question is: how do they make money from a VOIP service or even an IM application if they'll provide the service for free?

  5. Video by datadriven · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Any chances for a linux client that does video?

  6. Google Cliche'? by ZipprHead · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I wonder if Google will monitor what is being chatted about and throw up relevant banner ads.

    With google trying to dominate searching, news, usenet, email and now chat? At what point in time will they become cliche'?

  7. Sounds Silly, but I wouldn't mind.. by caffeinex36 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Sounds Silly, but I wouldn't mind a "Google Internet Suite" type thing, that had maybe a client that incorprated google desktop, picasa, IM and gmail as well as search all in one. maybe have some desktopish options like archiving locally some gmail, linking between photos/emails/IM's and files, would definitly be powerful.

  8. Feature by sethadam1 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Okay, some time ago, Gmail changed form using your "Gmail account" to using your "Google account," so it's a safe bet us gmail'ers already have our Google IM id. However, how cool would it be if you could "save your chat history" or even a specific conversation to a "GIM Chats" label in your Gmail account, which you can then access and search like any other gmail "conversation?

    The potential to integrate your IM conversations into a web based store has NOT been investigated, despite Yahoo and MSN both seemingly having the capability to do so.

    It would seem logging and storing ALL IM chats would likely be a waste of disk space as most of it is generally disposable, but I've had several chats I would like to refer back to with important URLs and phone numbers, etc.

    1. Re:Feature by Anthony+Liguori · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I would say I'm a pretty average IM user. I've logged my IM conversations for the past two years. The current log directory is 38M.

      Logging has proved invaluable. Not only is it useful for searching for phone numbers, addresses, etc. but it's really useful as a student so that you can go back and refer to discussions about a particular assignment.

      I think that IM clients should enable logging by default.

  9. Re:It's open on tcp/5222 by caluml · · Score: 4, Interesting
    What is "Buzz Team"?
    CONNECTED(00000003)
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    verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
    verify return:1
    depth=0 /C=US/ST=CA/L=Mountain View/O=Google/OU=Buzz team/CN=gmail.com/emailAddress=buzz-team@google.co m
    verify return:1
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    i:/C=US/ST=CA/L=Mountain View/O=Google/OU=Buzz team/CN=gmail.com/emailAddress=buzz-team@google.co m
    ---
    Server certificate
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    -----END CERTIFICATE-----
    subject=/C=US/ST=CA/L=Mountain View/O=Google/OU=Buzz team/CN=gmail.com/emailAddress=buzz-team@google.co m
    issuer=/C=US/ST=CA/L=Mountain View/O=Google/OU=Buzz team/CN=gmail.com/emailAddress=buzz-team@google.co m
    ---
    No client certificate CA names sent
    ---
    SSL handshake has read 1207 bytes and written 338 bytes
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    New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA
    Server public key is 1024 bit
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    Cipher : EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA
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    Key-Arg : None
    Start Time: 1124807953
    Timeout : 300 (sec)
    Verify return code: 18 (self signed certificate)
    ---
    DONE
    calum@womble ~ $
  10. INFORMATION AND COMMUNICATION SERVICES by PhYrE2k2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    MSN has:
      - reliability issues where it will go down for whole days or mornings at times- happening maybe every couple months for year. Google could use their high-availability knowledge to keep this lifeline alive
      - integration to PSTN. If Google IM is always open, it's an easy transition to call family all around the world cheaply without the need to switch home phones and get a separate service (Skype for example).
      - Fewer ads. Google would make its money on PSTN services, video conferences, features like '3-way calling' and 'conference calling' that need the network to merge several streams together or manage them. Google could make the ads smaller and less intrusive
      - Fewer full-screen emoti-blips *hehe*
      - file sharing, music sharing, resource sharing.

    There is tons of untapped potential that M$ isn't doing. M$ is instead adding in full-screen emiti-blips (if I wanted a program to take over my whole screen when I'm working on something else, I would run a game.. It's happened before... typing in my credit card number and a MSN window takes focus... good thing I don't look at the keyboard when I type).

    IM isn't just IM anymore. IM is about communication, information sharing, etc. All of Google's services are INFORMATION (search, maps, etc) or COMMUNICATION (gmail, talk) based- they're just adding more to the mix.

    -M

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