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Google, Skype and the Future of IM

Matt Veenstra sent in a nice little piece of rumor mongering about how Google's new Talk/Jabber/IM thing is just a stepping stone, but it's really just a foreshadowing of their future buyout of Skype. Worth some thought anyway.

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  1. "News" implies some basis in fact... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Slashdot: Speculation for Half-wits.
    Honestly, is a story based at least marginally on fact too much to ask? A entire article without one scrap of evidence to back it up...in fact, in under thirty seconds I was able to find two articles that would seem to contradict this assertion.

    How exactly did this make it onto Slashdot?

    Google, Skype and the Future of IM

    Oh, I see...
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    1. Re:"News" implies some basis in fact... by PDXNerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Slashdot: Rumors for nerds, something to impress your friends with!

      Seriously though, remember the original Google Talk rumors and how they were debunked? Now this? What about the Google Earth rumors? What about a Google Browser (which hasn't happened, but the newest Google Desktop is mighty close...)

      Also - the previous story had to do with viral marketing and Serenity - now this comes along. Perhaps Google is doing a bit of viral marketing of their own? I wonder how many "Google Rumors" have been posted here, debunked here, and then later, after release, had an article here saying "It's true!!!!"

    2. Re:"News" implies some basis in fact... by Dr.+Molf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Wow. His evidence is startling: #1/ Buying Skype would cost a lot of money #2/ Google just raised a lot of money QED. Based on these facts, I think that Google is going to buy Chuck E Cheese (NYSE: CEC). I submit as evidence the fact that Google is not yet in the Children's Entertainment Pizza n' Token business and certainly being able to put online ads on the walls around a Chuck E Cheese would be very lucrative. Children are highly impressionable and Google has lots of money. QED. At the very least, any baseless opinion article should be sent in by at least a different person than the actual author. Of course you believe your own made-up bull. SIGH.

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  2. Google vs. Skype by hkmwbz · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Google and Skype could turn out to be competitors as well. Do we really want Google to buy up potential competitors?

    But I guess history shows that the Skype creators could sell their creation to set out for something else. That's what they did with Kazaa anyway.

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    1. Re:Google vs. Skype by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do we really want Google to buy up potential competitors?

      Yes.

      Well, not all the time, but usually, the situation is like this:

      Potential Competitor is big enough to matter, but small enough that they could also be bought out by microsoft.

      Potential Competitor charges money, and/or has lots of obnoxious ads on their website / in their software.

      Potential Competitor's tech sucks -- website, application, everything -- the only thing they've got going for them is that it was a relatively innovative.

      Google never has a website that sucks, and the apps I've seen are at least decent.

      Google doesn't seem to charge for anything except ad placement, and their ads are mostly-relevant, unobtrusive text ads.

      Google can't/won't be bought out by Microsoft.

      Given the alternatives, I'd rather Google buy up competitors.

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  3. Why would they buyout Skype? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They already have VoIP built into their client and a huge marketing machine, including millions of viral marketing droids, working in their favor.

  4. Why? by coolsva · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Google has a bigger/larger presence in the market than Skype (in generic terms and brand identity). Enough to push their own client (that it follows open standards is a plus) and provide services on their own. They have a boatload of bandwidth (dark fiber), well spread edge servers (which are critical in any VOIP since that is the main cause of delay/stutter)

    As a side note, Im sure we would soon see google integrate everything where we search for a person/name, it brings up his address, phone number (both currently found by searching for number), icon to send email, IM or call directly, all a click away. Imagine that!

  5. Why release Google Talk then? by warmgun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If Google were planning on buying out Skype, why would they release a version of Google Talk with their own implementation of voice chat? Doesn't make much sense to me. Furthermore, has Google ever bought a company worth that much before? Most of their aqcuisitions seem to be companies that have good software but aren't very popular, therefore, they Google gets quite a bargain by purchasing them for far less than they're worth. Skype doesn't fit that bill, imo.

  6. Does it have to be a buyout? by b4k3d+b34nz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since we're jumping to conclusions about Google's corporate strategy today, I'll go ahead and give mine. It seems to me like Google wants to get into the field with their product and see where it goes.

    Google Talk seems pretty barebones at the moment, but if we remember correctly, so was Gmail when it first came out. I've had it from day 3 or 4, and it wasn't really all that great at the time--the only thing to write home about was the amount of space you have.

    Anyway, that seems to be Google's strategy with everything--launch a product in beta, then continuously improve it until everyone loves it. I could be wrong, but it seems like they would be competing with Skype and using their own in-house programs, rather than buying them out.

    Just a thought...

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  7. Re:Another Google buyout? by LnxAddct · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Well until Google gives me a reason not to trust them, I will. They actively compete on their merits, not on monopoly or force. If you search for an address they still give you links for Google Maps, Yahoo Maps, and Mapquest. They have donated large sums of money to OSS and have paid for many developers to work on it over them summer. Now they are using their weight to standardize instant messaging the way e-mail is standardized. If you read Google Talk's site, you'll see that a big initiative is getting instant messaging into a state like e-mail is where you can IM anyone on any network from any IM client. Jabber has server2server capabilities and thus will greatly help this effort. If I ever sense that they are misusing my information, then I'll think about leaving them, but until then, they have my full support. They have literally made the internet a better place to be.
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  8. Re:Yes we do by 10Ghz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't have to make them switch. If they are content with MSN and it's games, let them be. But there are lots and lots people who love Google. And they would love to use their IM-service. And when others start to switch, they will follow. And if the demand is there, Google/Jabber-folks just might add those games.

    Yes, we need something like Jabber, and we need it to be universal. With Googles help, it might become that. Right now internet is riddled with incompatible, proprietary IM-protocols. We need an universal standard that is open. What if email was like IM is right now? you could only use email to certain people, using certain email-clients/addresses. If you wanted to send email to someone else, you have to switch clients/addresses to do so. No, that is madness. And that is what IM is today. We need something that works everywhere and is open. ICQ can't be it. AIM can't be it. MSN can't be it. Jabber could be it.

    Now, if Google could just add video-conferencing....

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  9. Innovations and Aquisitions by ear1grey · · Score: 4, Insightful
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    Well said.

    Having spent a while this morning instlling it, and generally buggering about with it, I was left with the distinct impression that this is the thin end of another GoogleWedge (TM).

    In summary:

    • It doesnt innovate: in either the IM or the VOIP world,
    • It has fewer features than competing clients/networks

    but

    • It has millions of ready made users with gmail accounts.
    • It has a surprisingly respectful user interface that is a joy to use.
    • It has potential to be extended from day one (unlike AIM or YIM where the owners have fought to keep the protocols closed and proprietary.
    If I were to be really speculative I'd say that the most significant effect of todays beta launch is that it positions Google as a credible competitor to Skype, which may lower Skype's valuation, and thus make it a more attractive aquisition.