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New Security Ideas From Intel

Scott writes "Intel is developing a new technology that could prevent unauthorized access to wireless networks using the time it takes for packets to arrive from the access point to the Wi-Fi user. This is one of several ideas were presented at Intel Developer Forum. Intel has also released a hardware-based solution to fight against worm spreading. From the report: 'The system monitors the number of external connections being made and if a higher network activity is detected, the computer is disconnected to prevent the infection of further machines on the network.'"

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  1. Say Goodbye by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 3, Interesting
    'The system monitors the number of external connections being made and if a higher network activity is detected, the computer is disconnected to prevent the infection of further machines on the network.

    Say goodbye to P2P and BT.

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  2. im skeptikal... by brianopp · · Score: 1, Interesting

    while this sounds fine and dandy.. arent there so many things to consider.. interference from other devices, walls, metal objects... how accurate would this be... im thining it could end up with too many false-positives

  3. irresponsible paranoia induction by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Its disgusting how Intel capitalizes on paranoia in order to increase profit. How do you expect free community networks to take off if people don't keep their access points open? I keep my access point wide open for everyone to use and never had any problems. If I need to transfer something sensitive I simply use ssl, ssh, or any other type of encryption.

    1. Re:irresponsible paranoia induction by pupeno · · Score: 2, Interesting

      What if someone uses your open access point to send Spam thru your ISP and account ?
      The thought of having other people using my ISP account, which has my name on it, to do ilegal or inmoral (to me) stuff like spam, warez, piracy, etc is enogh to think about security. The fact that I don't wan others sucking up my bandwithd is another thing I think off.
      I would donate part of my bandwidth to the general community though. If it was easy and secure.
      Regarding others reading my packets, well I already asume that, since when there's nobody sniffing at the routers ? Long live GnuPG, SSL and SSH.

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  4. hmm by manavendra · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Why stop at doing this for wireless devices? Why not include such connnection-based control for any connections made from the host?

    Also, the article says this proposed change will require change to existing Wi-Fi devices. IS that really going to happen in near future?

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  5. I wonder which new technology by springbox · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Intel is developing a new technology that could prevent unauthorized access to wireless networks

    Could it be..

    • Setting the router defaults to be more secure
    • Printing out how to run the setup utility included with the router to secure your network on a big bright yellow card
    • Forcing the user to pay attention to the settings by setting the WPA key to a random default
    • Printing, in big letters somewhere on the inside of the box, explaining how if the user runs yet another inescure 802.11b network, the terrorists have already won
    </sarcasm>

    It seems like Intel might be searching for an automatic solution for this problem, which is bound to fail as quickly as they can put it out in the wild. How do you protect users from bad network setups if the users largely aren't aware that the problem exists? We don't need new technology, we need to modify existing technology that, while it might add a few extra steps, forces users to pay attention to the problem that everyone here is already aware of.

  6. Time for Clarke's Corollary? by volsung · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Any sufficiently advanced worm will be indistinguishable from normal user traffic.

    (OK, so it has nothing to do with Clarke's Law, other than sharing the same sentence pattern.)

  7. Re:Disconnects on too many connections... by krautcanman · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The university where I work already incorporates this tactic, and it works quite well. The only way to get your computer back on the network is to prove you've installed virus software + firewall, and have completely rid your machine of the malicious software. It really gets users to shape-up quick. They also run a daily scan of the network for certain open ports and vulnerabilities that are commonly used by worms. "Punishment" is still the same - fix it or remain cut off.

  8. Re:Hardware-based solution to worm propagation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    lame idea, where would it stop?
    some other thing using a well known protocol will come along.... hey lets block it, not like this is called the internet or anything.

  9. Re:Hardware-based solution to worm propagation by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    They did this for a while last year with bell south. My friend could no longer check or send email and his router ceased properly functioning. yeah.. filter port 25... who cares about any of that "internet stuff"

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  10. Re:Hardware-based solution to worm propagation by plasmacutter · · Score: 2, Interesting

    actually, it was apple's .mac mail server, on which 3 separate accounts were active for 2 computers in their household.

    Are you implying that the constant complaining I was hit with was all about nothing?

    bell south even admitted to them the problem was they were blockign port 25, but didn't indicate they'd do something to alleviate those little "inconveniences" involving non-working email and routers.

    Whoops!

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