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Sri Lanka Declares an Open Source Week

AnuradhaRatnaweera writes "Sri Lankan Government has declared (Google cache) the week starting from the 5th of September as the National Free and Open Source Software Week. The FOSS Community, Government's ICTA and the industry are working together to organize the week's events including the FOSSSL Conference and Asia Open Source Symposium. The week has been selected to end (well, almost) with the Software Freedom Day."

105 comments

  1. Link City by kevin_conaway · · Score: 4, Funny

    See here for why its a bad (and extremely annoying) idea to make every other word in the summary a link.

    1. Re:Link City by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The guy is just a blogophobe.

  2. wow.. editors.. really.. by peculiarmethod · · Score: 3, Funny

    AN Open Source Week. Seriously.. are we outsourcing editorial work to India, too?

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    1. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by jjeffries · · Score: 1
      We oughta fork this open source Week! We could add an extra day--to the weekend of course.

      What license is it distributed under?

    2. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Maybe "AN Open Source Week" in a country where open source has really had an impact on society? I don't know the situation in Sri Lanka very well, but I can well imagine that it's a place that would welcome (cheap and easy to adapt to the local language) open source software over (expensive, and you're dependent on the developer) proprietary software.

      Besides, how many other places you know of have an official open-source week, or even day? It's not like this is the 10,000th repitition of an old theme (unlike some other stories we get to see here).

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    3. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by Coneasfast · · Score: 3, Informative

      are we outsourcing editorial work to India, too?

      uh, since when is Sri Lanka in India

      they are 2 seperate countries,
      know your geography, read a book.

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    4. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by peculiarmethod · · Score: 1

      uhhhh, I never gave reason for you to assume that. The media, slashdot included, have been all in a stink for the last year about jobs being "stolen" by individuals in India, among other places (rural areas supposedly, according to yesterdays news), in order to avoid expensive costs of highly decorated management and employees. However, jobs are slowly trickling back as people are finding they are under trained, it's hard to train someone who is far away, and their communications abilities leave something to be desired. Lot's of complaints about the last one.. soooooo, if you know anything about comedy (trolling is when you try to provoke someone through shock or anger, comedy is when you try to make someone laugh, thus the FUNNY tage MODERATORS), then you would know that current events put in a short pun when a mistake is similiar to said current event.. this is called FUNNY.

      I will take your advice on the geography book, 'cause I need to get to work on finding my next vacation spot, however, I suggest you buy on DVD: The Marx Brothers, Mr. Show, The Jerk, Young Frankenstein, Real Genius, anything by Eddie Murphy, anything by Monty Python, anything by SNL that happened before the 80s, and Cartoon Network after 12pm.

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    5. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by Coneasfast · · Score: 1

      comedy is when you try to make someone laugh, thus the FUNNY tage MODERATORS

      i know what funny is, and i have a sense of humour,
      unfortunately, you failed at your attempt at being funny

      thus the reason for my reply :)

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    6. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by MutantHamster · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      No, the reason for your reply was clearly that you misintrepeted what somebody else said. I.E., you're a moron, as evidinced by the fact that you don't know how to use a shift key, or punctuation, yet still tell somebody else to "read a book."

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    7. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by Coneasfast · · Score: 1

      yes, i did misinterpet what he said, thats why it wasn't funny! (if it's so subtle that most people can't even understand it, it's not funny)

      lol, ok i dont use the shift key and punctuation correctly just to speed things up, but at least i do that on purpose.

      you can't even spell "misinterpet" and "evidenced" correctly, yet you call me a moron. ah, the wonders of hypocrisy.

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    8. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

      1. Someone makes a comment about India in direct reply to a story about Sri Lanka.

      2. India and Sri Lanka are very close, indeed Sri Lanka could be construde as an Indian province to the poorly informed.

      3. Some makes a sophomoric comment based on specious fact (see #2).

      4. You defend it as relevant on grounds of humour.

      So would you defend such a comment as 'humour' in the same vein if, say, the story was about Google buying some German software? How moronic.

      Perhaps you could reply along the lines that this is a story about people with brown skin and an unfamiliar culture and, God damn it, (in a suitably jingoistic manner) "they're stealing out jobs".

    9. Re:wow.. editors.. really.. by MutantHamster · · Score: 1

      Yes. It's better to be stupid on purpose than it is to occasionally make mistakes. Also, since you like irony so much. It would appear neither of us can spell misinterpret.

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  3. In other news by Timesprout · · Score: 4, Funny

    Slashdot announces a gramer/spelink wek

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    1. Re:In other news by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1

      My original post did NOT have spelling mistakes and the title read "Sri Lanka Declares a FOSS Week". "Editing" it and posting is not in our hands, although it might spawn a perception that Sri Lankans have poor command of English.

  4. FOSS Week by lakiolen · · Score: 2, Informative

    I suppose this is to lure people away from warez?

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  5. This sounds like terrorism. by Seumas · · Score: 5, Funny

    If they celebrate open source and free software, they're essentially attacking proprietary and costly software. And if you're not paying for software, you're hurting American business. And if you are hurting American business, you're a terrorist.

    Time to attack that piddly nation and that fat lazy western science fiction author!

    1. Re:This sounds like terrorism. by TeknoHog · · Score: 1
      Time to attack that piddly nation and that fat lazy western science fiction author!

      Fat lazy pedophile SF author! If you're going to insult someone, do it properly!

      (I'm actually a big fan of Clarke's works, btw ;)

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    2. Re:This sounds like terrorism. by Seumas · · Score: 1

      I assume you're being funny, but while some people claim he's an indicted pedophile, the BBC claims he was cleared of all charges (which were only made by a British tabloid after he was conferred for knighthood).

  6. Wow! by Musteval · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now that Sri Lanka supports open source, 2005 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop!

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    1. Re:Wow! by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ``Now that Sri Lanka supports open source, 2005 is sure to be the year of the Linux desktop!''

      Maybe in Sri Lanka it is. And frankly, it would be a very welcome development. Westerners may be able to pony up two times the price of the hardware just to get MS Windows and MS Office, but I can imagine Sri Lankans cannot. F/OSS can really change the landscape and provide more people with access to computers.

      Plus, if somehow the whole country were running Linux, soon the missing applications would have to be developed. You know, the ones that only 5% of the people use, and therefore don't get the mindshare of things like browsers and office suites, but that are nevertheless critical to businesses?

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    2. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      Have you checked out the hardware requirements for Linux lately? It's not as if you can run a current version on a 386 system with 4MB of RAM.

    3. Re:Wow! by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      ``It's not as if you can run a current version on a 386 system with 4MB of RAM.''

      I've run a 2.6 kernel on a 486 with less than 4 MB RAM. I'm sure I could run that on a 386 with 4 MB, too.

      Just because _you_ can't, doesn't mean it's not possible. Just because the latest and greatest desktop environment won't run on it, doesn't mean it isn't possible to run a usable system on it. Would you like to compare the usability of my Linux installation to your Windows XP installation on the same 486?

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    4. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      True, but you can scale it down to your heart's content and still have a modern, fully-patched up distro running e.g. XFCE+Dillo+Abiword+Sylpheed. You don't have to use GNOME and KDE, which, in my opinion at least, run worse than XP on comparable hardware.

      Hell, if you're too lazy to do that, just grab one of these babies:

      http://www.vectorlinux.com/

      http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/

      http://www.goosee.com/puppy/

    5. Re:Wow! by Red+Alastor · · Score: 1

      I just recycled a PII 400 mhz with 64 mb of RAM. I bought 128 extra mb for $35 and installed Ubuntu 5.04 on it (Gnome Desktop). It runs very smoothly.

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    6. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      You mean 10 year old version of Linux runs better on 15 year old hardware than a 2-3 year old version of Windows. I'm impressed.

    7. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      What if my heart's content is a IBM PC with an 8088 processor?

    8. Re:Wow! by damiam · · Score: 1

      The 2.6 kernel is the current version; not 10 years old.

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    9. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      My mistake. I was referring to RHL release numbers.

      So, what can you do when the 2.6 kernel runs with 4MB?

    10. Re:Wow! by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

      I was using the machine to check email (mutt), chat (with some IRC program I forget the name of; I use sirc now), SSH into other machines to do maintenance, write my homework for courses (using elvis or nano; later I would run latex on a more powerful machine).

      I'm sure you can also serve files, and there are GUIs that would work in such an environment (picogui works for sure, I think nanogui would work, too, but I never tried).

      In past times, I had been running XFree86 3.something with fvwm2, compiling software with gcc and allegro (which caused lots of swapping), browsing the web with some browser written in Python (I think it was called Arena), and playing FreeCIV on a 486s with 4 and 8 MB RAM. However, these were using Linux 2.0 and libc5. Particularly the latter takes a lot less memory than libc6, but you can always use something like ucLibc or dietlibc, many programs will work with these.

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    11. Re:Wow! by shadowmas · · Score: 1

      Sri Lanka up until now was using pirated software (even now this is true for most part). this is because most people here cant afford to pay for MS Windows and MS Office which is 'needed' to run their computers. Paying for the hardware alone is difficult for most people. however since microsoft has setup a prescence here in SL and started going after pirated software people (specially computer dealers) have been looking for alternative software. so Linux has a good chance of being picked up by everyone. only thing stopping most people is the fact that most lay users cant get any training for linux and the fact that most custom software used in companies were developed for windows or dos (also there arent as many developers for linux).

      other opensource software seems to be catching up slowly (openoffice, firefox, etc.). i think with a little more help from the goverment (like promoting linux in schools) linux would start to catch up more quickly. microsoft going after software pirates a little more aggressivly would also help ;)

    12. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Obviously you know bnothing about Linux. I suggest you stick with something you know.

    13. Re:Wow! by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 1

      Linux runs on just about any 32-bit CPU with an MMU. Try doing that with Windows.

    14. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      WTF are you talking about? You know nothing about Linux. Move on.

    15. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be an idiot.

    16. Re:Wow! by the_womble · · Score: 1
      Westerners may be able to pony up two times the price of the hardware just to get MS Windows and MS Office, but I can imagine Sri Lankans cannot

      No, they can not, so they do not. Everyone here uses pirated software. It is openly on sale in every computer shop. MS do not seem to mind - it is sold openly, you can find 20 or 30 shops selling pirated copies of Windows and MS Office by strolling through a shopping mall, so if they wanted to stop it they could.

      That said, in spite of this, Linux is making headway. People are becoming aware of it. When i say I use Linux people now ask about it. The Open Source Week has generated a lot of publicity and the Lanka Linux Users Group is very effective.

    17. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      You're right. I know bnothing about Linux.

    18. Re:Wow! by strider44 · · Score: 1

      Linux can run on this thing (using a Linux version released last year). What makes you think it can't run on a 386 with 4MB of RAM?

    19. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      Early Windows versions ran on a 16-bit CPU without an MMU. So if we're going to talk strictly about minimum resources Linux lost that battle right at the starting gate.

      It's not a Linux limitation, it's Unix limitation.

    20. Re:Wow! by ClosedSource · · Score: 1

      What I love about these Linux to Windows comparisons is that when we talk about features and capabilities, Linux fans point to whole distributions, but when we talk about hardware requirements or viruses, suddenly it's just the kernel.

    21. Re:Wow! by The+Original+Yama · · Score: 1

      DOS is not Windows, and Windows 3.x and below are not operating systems. Can NT (the current Windows family) run on a 16-bit CPU without an MMU? No it can't.

      And Windows only runs (and ran) on a small range of chips, too. Outside x86, Itanium and ARM, Windows is almost unheard of (it's a long-lost legend on Alpha).

    22. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm... no. Linux, complete with userland, runs just fine on a 386 or embedded device. If you want to squeeze it down more, you can run a cut-down kernel and use a different userland (e.g. uClibc). It's very capable even then.

    23. Re:Wow! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, from looking at your posting history, you don't have much to laugh about when it comes to spelling.

  7. Is this really a good idea? by thc69 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, making what seems like a holiday for open source...next it will become a religion...

    Ummm...Oh yeah. Nevermind. Too late.

    I, for one, welcome our new Sri Lankan Open Source Celebrating Overlords.

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    1. Re:Is this really a good idea? by Snoolas · · Score: 2, Funny

      And we think the Jews and Muslims aren't getting along... Wait till the FSF and OSI duke it out...

    2. Re:Is this really a good idea? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

      The Christians don't seem to be getting along with the Muslims, either. And in Sri Lanka (and their neighborhood), the Hindus, Buddhists and Jains (to name a few) aren't getting along with the Muslims, either. I think it's inevitable, especially in South Asia, that sectarian conflicts based on clan property and power show up in tech sectarian conflicts, too. Software bickering that people call "holy wars" is nothing compared with when the real religious zealots get into the game.

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  8. Kind of like American Programmers ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sri Lanka is also on the front line against Indian Imperialism and likes open source.

    Go Sri Lanka !!!

  9. Sri Lanka? by nurb432 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Wow! thats a really powerful ally to have in the movement.

    What is next? 'Podunk Idaho says no to AOL for a week' ?

    Sheesh.

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    1. Re:Sri Lanka? by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 3, Insightful

      ``thats a really powerful ally to have in the movement.''

      Yes, why not? Can you imagine a better argument for the practicality of open source than a whole country running on it? That could shut up the "I would like to use Linux, but it can't do X" crowd simply and effectively.

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  10. Weak? by TheViewFromTheGround · · Score: 1, Funny

    "Sri Lanki Declares Open Source Weak." Open source isn't weak, you insenstive Sri Lankan clods... Oh wait, where did I put my glasses?

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    1. Re:Weak? by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1
      "Sri Lanki Declares Open Source Weak." Open source isn't weak, you insenstive Sri Lankan clods... Oh wait, where did I put my glasses?
      Not my problem.
  11. How many people in Sri Lanka even have computers?! by chroot_james · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's not exactly silicon valley... Do people even care about rights ensure by the GPL when they'd probably be ecstatic to have a magic wonder box that can compute results in seconds!

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  12. Facts about Sri Lanka by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 2, Informative


    Sri Lanka has a population of 20 million and has 19 political parties.

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    1. Re:Facts about Sri Lanka by Seumas · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      Well, America has about 300 million people and around 70 political parties

    2. Re:Facts about Sri Lanka by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0

      But the ones that have anything to say just seem to say all the shame shit, no? ;)

      Does anyone know how many of those 19 parties are actually in their parliament?

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    3. Re:Facts about Sri Lanka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Someone please explain to me how the parent is off topic but the grandfather isn't?!

      Are you fuckers too stupid to read and draw parallells? This is an obvious comparison to show that "19 parties isn't that strange or rare".

      Jesus christ you moderators are fucking dickless cunts.

    4. Re:Facts about Sri Lanka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, "America" has something closer to a billion people. The United States of America has about 300 million people.

    5. Re:Facts about Sri Lanka by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The article is about Sri Lanka, not the US. Maybe you would get that if you weren't so self-absorbed. There is a whole world outside your precious "America". BTW, a cunt is not a dick, and so is dickless by definition.

  13. cool by SolusSD · · Score: 2, Informative

    I work for a company called Interact whose hardware/software runs cell phone networks down there... and yes They DO run Linux! ;)

    1. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Start kids off in grade school with a reasonable Linux distro like (for example) Ubuntu with OpenOffice.org (or a lighter weight word processor on limited computers), and save money and build up local infrastructure and capabilities.

      Hi Mark

      Coming from somebody like you, this message must be in the heart of all people who are genuinely interested/involved in IT in developing countries. Thanks!
    2. Re:Cool by xmda · · Score: 1

      Sorry for this obvious observation: why would any small country not want to use open source?

      Funny that you'd ask this; a couple of weeks ago I discussed this with a collegue in SL (I live and work in Sweden) and he said that SL has always been quite MS-friendly, mostly because it has been "free" to obtain as they until previously had very week, if any, copyright-laws.

      That's why... :)

    3. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Sorry for this obvious observation: why would any small country not want to use open source?

      Corruption.

    4. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "SL has always been quite MS-friendly, mostly because it has been "free" to obtain as they ..."

      That was definitely one of the reasons. Software piracy is so widespread in this part of the world, people often do not add licence fees to their "TCO" calculations.

      Paradoxically, that helped Microsoft to get a strong foothold thereby to be the "sole" supplier when it comes to legal purchaces of software.

      The tide has changed. For one MS chase behind pirates, and the second, yes awareness about FOSS.

  14. Wow, this is news how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is really a slow news day when the news of a small developing nation declaring it a "open-source week" can make it to the front page. Anybody can declare it a "week", and unless there's some hard commitment and actions behind it it's not really news. I heard Elbonia may consider declaring open-source month, if slashdot editors are in need of news.

    1. Re:Wow, this is news how? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      You are right. For a big nation this is small news.

      But for the small nation this is big news, especially if it means escaping from the grip of the big nation!

    2. Re:Wow, this is news how? by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1
      This is really a slow news day when the news of a small developing nation declaring it a "open-source week" can make it to the front page. Anybody can declare it a "week", and unless there's some hard commitment and actions behind it it's not really news. I heard Elbonia may consider declaring open-source month, if slashdot editors are in need of news.

      Like many others here, you are utterly confused or just trolling. According to your first sentense, this is not news because it's about a "small developing nation". In the second, it's because of your doubt (not even certainity) that there is no "action behind it".

      And you think that governments declare these "Weeks" because they felt sorry about Slashdot editors who are desperately in need of news. Time to grow up... ;-)

  15. Where can I download by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    the source for this week?

  16. cracked up mods by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WFT does this have to do with Sri Lanka or open source week?

    I have a settop box and yes it runs Linux, woopie.

    1. Re:cracked up mods by SolusSD · · Score: 1

      oh idk.. lets see. sri lanka's acceptance of open source software in big business perhaps? your a troll. obviously we have a 'cracked up' mod system since you have yet to be modded one.

  17. A *whole* country! by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    You mean all 100 citizens?

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    1. Re:A *whole* country! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0

      Well... in these areas (from india to china), they call a place where 500,000 poeple live a village!

      Can you imagine what they call a city? And they have many of them down there. ;)

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    2. Re:A *whole* country! by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1

      You'll have to learn to count first. Enyone with some primary education knows the difference between 100 and 20 million.

    3. Re:A *whole* country! by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      It was a joke..

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  18. Re:In other news... by Mr2cents · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I don't know what your problem is, I use Linux exclusively for over 5 years now and I get everything done without any problems.

    Then today the family got called together for a problem with my sister's WinXP pc. When I arrived my father was already running a virus scanner, and it had detected a trojan. So I wanted to open a browser and check it out. Problem: the scanner window was always on top. Great (it soon became clear the software was full of UI bugs).

    Then my sister started complaining that some games didn't work, and mentioned something about DirectX versions. I simply told her I don't know and I don't WANT to know. After all these years, DirectX STILL has those problems??

    So tell me again why XP would be superior? I think there are gems and horrible apps on both platforms, and if you don't know what you're doing you're screwed anyway whatever platform you run. I mean, as soon as something goes wrong they become dependant on the nearest computer geek they can find. I'm sure 90% of the /. crowd repairs the Windows computers of their family, friends, and neighbours.

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  19. Re:In other news... by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    Oh, nice, another proprietary software advocate to rebuff!

    ``End users do not care if software source code is open to the winds or kept locked in a vault south southwest of Area 51. They care that it is cost effective, easy to use, and does what they want.''

    Which is where OSS has the edge. If it doesn't work the way you want it to work, you can customize it. You may not be able to do so yourself, but chances are other people are in the same situation, and one of those will make improvements that help you, too. Had the software been closed-source, the only options would have been to license the software and modify it, rewrite it from scratch, or hope that the authors improve it for you. Neither of these are typically very effective, and all are available with open-source as well.

    Given the greater potential for customization, the (typically) lower costs of purchase and upgrades, and the fact that the software can still be maintained if the original authors abandon the project, it would seem that open-source software is more cost effective than proprietary software, too.

    Of course, this is assuming all else is equal. It shouldn't come as a surprise if an open-source office suite lacked some features and polisht compared to a closed-source one that was started about 10 years earlier.

    ``This obsession with the words "free" and "open" is getting way past bizarre now and I think becoming raised to the level of religious fervor and dogma as a method of practicing psychological CYA in avoidance of "not getting it" as to why Windows and those who program on it continue to kick OSS ass consistantly.''

    So Windows is kicking OSS's ass consistantly? I wouldn't say that, judging by the security track record, the stability track record, the quality of the user interface, the flexibility of the shell, the ability to run on hardware of various architectures and performance, the ease with which software written for other systems can be ported to it, the ability to customize it, the cost of purchasing it, and the comments I hear from people using the system on a daily basis.

    F/OSS excels in all these areas and leaves Windows behind, and it seems at least plausible that many of the successes of F/OSS can be explained by the open availability of the source code and the adherence to existing standards.

    ``It's more about avoiding taking responsibility for writing what is still for the average end-user crappy, hard to use, esoteric, inaccessible software''

    I've said it before and I'll say it again: I see more people struggling with installing software and keeping the system clean, up to date and secure on Windows than on Linux. It used to be the other way around, but nowadays you need to be more of a computer expert to effectively use Windows than Linux.

    ``I remember when I'd burn code that was less than what the other person expected out of me because it embarassed me.''

    With all the stability and security issues, I can't help but think Microsoft isn't doing the same thing. Although there are many, many crappy open-source packages out there, there are also many projects that have very high standards for what code they will accept. I don't think you can generalize to the whole of open source here.

    ``Now the Internet culture of saying more nothing in more ways has invaded coding and we write things, call them open, and give away the source as freely as we blog.''

    Which gives others the opportunity to adopt and improve your code if they feel like it, and ignore it if they don't. Had you posted the same code as a closed-source program, people wouldn't even _know_ how crappy the code was, let alone be able to improve it.

    ``If code is truly good and important, it doesn't matter if it is open or not.''

    But how do you know the code is truly good if you can't see it?

    ``I don't use Xine, FC3, MTR, or a dozen other things because they are open.''

    And damn well you shouldn't. Nobody is saying you should use software you don't like, just

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  20. Cool by MarkWatson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sorry for this obvious observation: why would any small country not want to use open source?

    The only possible answer would be to be compatible with the world of all-things-Microsoft, but OpenOffice.org, AbiWord, etc. have good compatibility when you need it.

    I am very much of a computer nerd so using Windows, Linux, and OS X all on a dayly basis does not bother me, but for 'normal people', multiple learning curves are too big of a hit on productivity.

    Start kids off in grade school with a reasonable Linux distro like (for example) Ubuntu with OpenOffice.org (or a lighter weight word processor on limited computers), and save money and build up local infrastructure and capabilities.

    For large companies in the US and Europe, I could (if I wanted to, which I don't :-) make arguments for my standardizing on Windows Desktops is a good idea - but, for developing countries open source IT infrastructure is the best.

  21. In other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft Declares Open Souce Weak

  22. flamebait for stating the obvious by bobalu · · Score: 1

    Cracks me up he gets attacked for stating the obvious. The attitiude that you really owe it to someone/yourself/Linux to spend ten hours digging through bad doc to get something to work as opposed to using an easy-to-install user-friendly app is a real problem with acceptance of OSS, even if mostly undeserved in the actual practice. It's certainly the party line often enough.

    I mean, here he's telling you what OSS apps he uses (frankly it's more than I do) and he still gets "flamebait" and is a "Windows user to rebut".

    Yes, Windows XP still kicking Linux ass in any real terms in nearly any desktop situation you'd care to find. It may be running 3/4 of the cool new embedded h/w, servers and POS boxes up the wahoo, but not to the user.

    Remember the users? We're all users sometime, and frankly, the older get I get the less of my precious time I want to spend dicking around with some program that demands a semester at sea to get working.

    Make it work, make it easy, and people will use it whether it's free or not. That's all he's saying.

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    1. Re:flamebait for stating the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Make it work, make it easy, and people will use it whether it's free or not."

      Don't you think that is an oversimplification? Does the success of a product solely depend on just a technical or on any rational factor?

      How about advertisments and other propaganda, lobbying, bribary, cut-throat "agreements", buyung out your competition (and letting them starve)?

  23. Re:In other news... by Dolda2000 · · Score: 2, Funny
    It's more about avoiding taking responsibility for writing what is still for the average end-user crappy, hard to use, esoteric, inaccessible software which is what the OSS community would rather do[...]

    If code is truly good and important, it doesn't matter if it is open or not. I don't use Xine, FC3, MTR, or a dozen other things because they are open. I'd pay like Windows software and not care if the code was open anyhow. I use them because I want them.

    That is you, right, Darl? Didn't you say you were trying to quit Slashdot? Something along the lines of "the long-haired smellies"?

    Well, now that you're here: I think you forgot "unamerican".

    ;-)

  24. MOD UP - FUNNEH! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nt

    1. Re:MOD UP - FUNNEH! by Hurricane78 · · Score: 0

      wow... great level of conversation on this first 5-10 messages... *must not follow peer pressure*

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  25. And in other news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Calcutta declares an Open Sores week...

  26. Sri Lanka confirms it... BSD is dying! by batkiwi · · Score: 1

    I kid I kid...

  27. Sri Lankan Propaganda by randomErr · · Score: 1

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Sri Lanka at the edge of a civil war? Sounds like someone is trying to get some good press for their country.

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    1. Re:Sri Lankan Propaganda by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      err right. The press release that is the subject of this topic was released before your little wikinews event came to light.

      You have to realise not to believe every news source and you have to realise they've been on the edge of civil war since god knows how long and that life outside continues per normal.

      There...I've corrected youu.

    2. Re:Sri Lankan Propaganda by shadowmas · · Score: 2, Informative

      SL has been in a civil war for 30 years. and how is this open source movement going to make good press for us? do you think that the goverment hoped that Linus or you slashdotters come and help fight the civil war once they declared the open source week? FYI the week is the result of the local linux and opensource movment which is gather momentum among university students and several IT companies.

    3. Re:Sri Lankan Propaganda by shadowmas · · Score: 1

      small typo its 20 years not 30.

      Not to self: use the preview button.

  28. Re:In other news... by bobalu · · Score: 1

    So, how's that Excel spreadsheet going? Your PowerPoint presentation for tomorrow's meeting?

    Hmmm, maybe your definition of "getting everything done" is not the same as others.

    5 years and no problems? What's your definition of a problem?

    So let me get this straight, you were like, a guy running an upholstery shop with no more interest in PCs than your credit card system. That what a "normal" user is. And you switched to Linux and experienced no difficulties whatsoever, yes?

    And then you "don't know and don't want to know" about how to d/l a common update to Windows, but the people who feel that way about Linux are ignorant? It sounds like your family had the situation well in hand before you came in with your preconceptions of How Things Work.

    As far as OSS goes I suggest you're part of the problem, not the solution.

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  29. Re:In other news... by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

    So, how's that Excel spreadsheet going? Your PowerPoint presentation for tomorrow's meeting?

    Oh, please! As if you can't make a decent spreadsheet using Linux! BTW, other Office Suites have been ported to Linux (remember what happened to WP?), I just don't see that happening to MS office because it's created by the same people who sell Windows. Basically it's one big lock-in. So maybe it's not that good an idea to use that particular suite you're refering to.

    And then you "don't know and don't want to know" about how to d/l a common update to Windows, but the people who feel that way about Linux are ignorant?

    It was already the newest version. I was just saying that Joe Average has lots of problems with windows, but Joe Average knows people who will help him out.
    Joe Average will also have a lot of problems with Linux, but if Joe Average knows people who can help him out, he will be able to use it just the same. Also remember that a Linux distro installs a lot of software you have to install seperately on Windows.

    As far as OSS goes I suggest you're part of the problem, not the solution.

    Thanks for expressing your opinion!

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    "It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful." - Anton LaVey
  30. You're quite welcome by bobalu · · Score: 1

    I know you can make a spreadsheet under Windows man, but let's face it, MS makes things easy for humans.

    Trust me, I've worked with literally every Windows version ever, and for that matter every DOS version ever, and OS/2, CP/M, Solaris, Linux, etc. They all have their problems. When you say you've never had a problem using Linux it makes you sound like you really haven't tried to do that much. I'm sure that's not the case, but I think you're simplfying things a bit, no?

    In the last 5 years I've processed 50M imaged documents and gawd knows how many ORM records using... wait for it.. Windows. Not my choice, really. But if you're a professional you make it happen.

    What the original poster was saying, simply, was that people want easy to use stuff, and he's quite correct. The combination of free (as in beer OR speech) AND ease of use is what we need to get to.

    Cheers...
    BL

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    The revolution will NOT be televised.
    1. Re:You're quite welcome by Mr2cents · · Score: 1

      When you say you've never had a problem using Linux it makes you sound like you really haven't tried to do that much. I'm sure that's not the case, but I think you're simplfying things a bit, no?

      Of course not everything went as smoothly as I wanted it to, but in the end I always found a way to track those problems down. In one of the more extreme cases, I recently had some printer problems, but after half a day reading on the internet I knew what was going on, and had it fixed in no time. That's quite a long time, I agree, but things like that have been known to pop up elsewhere too, not only in Linux. Anyway there has never been a show-stopper. BTW, I'm using Debian and I wouldn't recommend that distribution for end-users, unless they're fanatic :).

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  31. Re:How many people in Sri Lanka even have computer by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1

    Only a few has got computers here. But there are lot of activities happenning to change it. Including a project to put tens of thousands of GNU/Linux boxes in rural homes

    Looks like many are thinking we are looking for FOSS as a cheap alternative, which is only a part of the story. We are more interested in the flexibility and independence than the cost itself.

    And in terms of contribution, Sri Lanka hasn't been idle. For example, most of the Apahce Web Services contributers, including the lead, are living here.

  32. ELKS by RAMMS+EIN · · Score: 1

    Check out ELKS. It's a system based on Linux that runs on 16 bit PCs (including those based on the 8088).

    Indeed, this is not the main Linux kernel, and the required changes will probably never be merged into the main tree, but it's at least theoretically possible to do so. The fact that this system is based on Linux is a testament to the flexibility Linux provides.

    I'm not sure if ELKS is still being actively developed, but if you look at the main page, you'll see that it has been updated in 2003. This is long after Microsoft Windows abandoned stopped supporting the 8088 (that happened sometime in the mid-1980s IIRC).

    Linux has also been known to run on watches, although it's entirely possible that current watches are much more computationally capable than 8088-based PCs.

    Anyway, to make the point explicit: it's relatively easy to get Linux to work about pretty much any sort of computer. The most important reasons for this are:

    1. It's open source, so if you have the skills and the tools, you can do it yourself. You are not dependent on somebody else to do it for you.

    2. Linux has already been ported to a wide variety of hardware. Many assumptions about hardware working a certain way have been removed or put in architecture-dependent files.

    3. Linux is based on a design (Unix) whose main innovation was portability, and the ability to run on low-spec hardware. Throughout Unix, the mantra has been Keep It Simple, Stupid. Also, the system is written in C, which was designed to abstract away from the differences in architecture.

    4. Linux is less tied to a certain mode of interaction than other current operating systems. Whereas it's hard to imagine Windows without a GUI, Linux works fine with or without a GUI, with or without a keyboard, with or without a serial console, etc. etc. etc.

    There is a snowball effect here; because of the easy access to the source (1), and the source being in a portable language (3), it's easy to compile Linux for a new device. In the porting process, assumptions about that hardware (2) and modes of interaction (4) will be isolated, making the code even easier to port to new architectures. This, in turn, leads Linux to compare favorable to competing OSes w.r.t. portability, increasing the chances that new devices will receive a Linux port. This reinforces 2, 3, and 4. Add to this the fact that the GPL requires sharing changes that you distribute, even 1 is reinforced, so there's a complete feedback loop.

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  33. Re:Oh editors, do your job please! by AnuradhaRatnaweera · · Score: 1

    As I repeated somewhere else, my originally submitted title read "Sri Lanka Declares a FOSS Week", which was edited to "Sri Lanka Declares a Open Source Weak".

  34. Hats Off SL! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seems as if there's an element of SARCASM around here!
    After all y cannot a developing nation adopt OSS?
    If it does the work that's required, and much robust than the 'BULL' gates stuff :D

  35. Re:Who cares? by perlperl · · Score: 1

    I agree with one thing! Not half of the country but very few people know about Linux and that is true for Microsoft too!
    This is something very funny for someone who can pay loads of money to tranxnational company like MS for thier software. In the Sri Lankan situation an assembled PC would cost around $500 and that too is very very expensive for most of the people in SL. Can somene imagine spending half of their income in an year (the average income in SL is around $1000) on PC and another hefty sum on proprietory software. This where the Linux come in. At present no one cares about Linux. But some one has to start some where. This is the time it has to start.