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The Player's Bill of Rights

Gamasutra has a Designer's Notebook column up this week offering up a Player's Bill of Rights. Written by Ernest Adams, the article decries the many indignities that we as players should never be forced to suffer. From the article: "The Right to Feedback: The player has a right to know how she's doing, and in particular, to some means of determining if she's in danger of losing the game. If the player doesn't get feedback, she can't adjust her strategy, and the outcome will feel random. Players need to know whether their approach is working or not."

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  1. This bill is too long by melikamp · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This and other bills are too long. I think that all of the points in all of these bills will be addressed if we only get the right to

    (0) Return a game for a full refund if we do not like it.

    1. Re:This bill is too long by wbren · · Score: 4, Funny
      I think that all of the points in all of these bills will be addressed if we only get the right to
      (0) Return a game for a full refund if we do not like it.
      I had an opportunity to view the rough drafts of the bill. Your suggestion nearly made it into the final version. Here's a history:

      First Draft (0) The Right to Have Hell Freeze Over...

      The author felt the wording was a little loose and vague, so he modified it slightly:

      Second Draft (0) The Right to Pirate the Latest Games Through Legitimate Retail Channels...

      The wording was still a little bit off, so he re-worded it yet again:

      Third Draft (0) The Right to Return a Game for a Full Refund if We Don't Like It...

      Then he came down from his acid trip and decided to remove that right altogether because it didn't make any sense to someone not on an acid trip. The literary process is really quite interesting. But seriously, that suggestion makes no sense to a retailer. Software generally has a return policy of a) no returns if it's opened or b) exchange for the exact same title (to protect against defective media). That won't change as long as publishers care about preventing piracy.
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    2. Re:This bill is too long by tepples · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Now, it's a different story if the product is advertised falsely in some way (e.g. a product's box says it can open Word documents when in fact it cannot).

      If my computer meets the printed system requirements for a game, and the game crashes on my computer, the product is defective, right? How would the local corporate branch of your store chain react? I hope I don't have to take the issue to small claims court.

    3. Re:This bill is too long by UberGeeb · · Score: 2, Informative

      I was given a copy of Pirates! for my birthday. I put the cd into my computer to install it, and the machine crashed. I tried again, it crashed again. Returning the game got me another copy, which also crashed my computer. In the end I took an older CDROM drive I had laying around and crammed it into my computer to give it a try. Magically, the game worked using this drive. Now, if I were a typical computer user, I wouldn't have had that drive laying around. I'd have had to spend another $40 or so on a new drive just to get the program to work (which, according to the listed requirements, should have worked with my existing hardware). That, or the game my friend bought for me would have actually been a couple of $20 coasters. According to store policy, this broken product was not returnable for a refund. This sort of thing is the reason most people want to be able to return games to the store, and the reason why so much software gets pirated nowadays: why should consumers risk their money on a product that the producers aren't willing to guarantee will even function properly, let alone provide an enjoyable play experience?

    4. Re:This bill is too long by AstrumPreliator · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Software generally has a return policy of a) no returns if it's opened or b) exchange for the exact same title (to protect against defective media). That won't change as long as publishers care about preventing piracy.

      Preventing privacy huh? Here's a little aside; my room mate bought a DVD player a few nights ago so we could watch my vast collection of DVD's on something other than my computer in my room. So we watched Spun and it worked fine, awesome we thought. The next night we tried to watch Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. But wait, what in the hell is wrong with the picture? Its' brightness continually modulates from dark to bright in intervals. This was their way of 'preventing' piracy. I had the DVD player hooked up through my VCR since my TV only has an RF jack. Fucking wonderful huh? I had to go buy an RF modulator so I could play a good 70% of my DVD's.

      I care about piracy, I really do. But come on people this is getting ridiculous. I want to be able to return a game if I don't like it, I want to be able to play DVDs without buying an RF modulator for an older TV to bypass the VCR, I don't want to be assraped by corporations. It's really not that much to ask for.

    5. Re:This bill is too long by Txiasaeia · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Agreed, but for a different reason than sticking it to the Man: I recently downloaded Advent Rising because I've discovered that some third-person games make me nauseous; Jedi Knight 2, for instance, was so bad that I couldn't complete it, and the boat sequence in Half-Life 2 gave me headaches. Interestingly enough, the nausea effect seemed to be cumulative; that is, no matter how short a period of time I played either game, I would eventually (after 3 or 4 hours) get sick after even playing the game for a minute.

      I was interested in Advent Rising because of Orson Scott Card and downloaded it to see if I could handle the perspective. Sadly, about fifteen minutes into it, I started to feel terrible. There was no demo to try out, nor could I buy the game and return it if I felt sick. So, sadly, I completely deleted the game.

      I feel morally justified in what I did, but are there any developers out there who feel otherwise? The fact that I now get sick after playing 1st and 3rd person games means that I generally stay away from the genre (Battlefield 2 being the exception, as I seem to be okay playing that), but I legitimately wanted to try it out to see what its effects would be on me. Assuming that I'm not a bald-faced liar (hey, it's the Internet and anything's possible), how do game devs feel about the above situation?

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    6. Re:This bill is too long by jmacleod9975 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm alutaphobic you insensitive clod!

    7. Re:This bill is too long by Golias · · Score: 2, Informative

      Try playing on a smaller monitor.

      Motion sickness is caused when the feedback to your eyes contradicts the feedback of your inner ear (which is where you sense of balance comes from.)

      I can play Quake for hours and hours on a 20" monitor with no problem, but HALO on my big-screen TV is another matter. A half-hour of driving the Warthog ("Puma", whatever) and I need to stop playing and go for a walk outside or something.

      It's becoming a common enough problem that it seems there may be an opening here for arcades (which have almost all disappeared in the US since the rise of FPS, MMORPG, and the latest console generation): Build game machines which tilt to off-set this problem when playing the newest first-person shooters. Most people can't afford such elaborate contraptions at home, so you might get a few bucks a week out of them so they can play at your arcade/bar/bowling alley/etc.

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  2. Re:Players Bill of Rights????? by Nasarius · · Score: 3, Insightful
    *sigh*
    I just knew someone would reply like this. Look at what website this is posted on. Look at the name of the column. Now, actually read the article.

    It's not a list of demands to game companies. It's some tips for game designers, like pretty much everything on GamaSutra.

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  3. The Right Not To Be Insulted by wbren · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I disagree with that "right"--I still can't believe I'm replying to a post about a Player's Bill of Rights, only on slashdot. In some games, insulting and being insulted by NPCs is an important part of the game. Take Neverwinter Nights as an example. Depending on whether or not an NPC insults you or is ill-tempered, you might make different choices, ultimately causing a different outcome. Likewise, if you insult an NPC they may not be very helpful, which could change the outcome as well. Overall it was a good list of what should(n't) be done in a game. I especially liked the Right to Control Cut-Scenes, that's a must-have.

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    1. Re:The Right Not To Be Insulted by radicalskeptic · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think there's a difference betwen insulting the player (what the article seems to dislike) and insulting the player's character (what you're talking about). Having an NPC call my character "a fat, smelly elf" is much different from a game actually insulting me.

      I will say that the article was complete trash though... most of these aren't "rights", they're just guidelines for good games--and incredibly OBVIOUS ones at that! I mean, c'mon, look at these:

      -The Right to Quit, Pause, Save and Resume the Game
      -The Right to Instructions
      -The Right to Win

      I'm looking through my collection of games right now (from all the major consoles), and I can't find a single one that didn't come with a playing manual, didn't allow you to save your progress, or which I felt was impossible to beat.

      From the article: The majority of the time a player spends in a game, he should be making decisions, exploring, creating, overcoming challenges, or otherwise acting upon the game world in some way. Players come to play, not to watch cut-scenes. Notice that I say the majority of the time. Non-interactive elements are not forbidden, but they should not take up more than 50% of the playing time of the game. (This is the absolute maximum; many gamers would contend that non-interactive elements should take up no more than 1% of the playing time of the game, if that.)

      Uh, well the Metal Gear Solid franchise seems to be doing just fine, and that series is notorious for its long and numerous cut scenes... But whatever.

      I have an idea: Why don't we just let the market decide which games people will buy, instead of some guy who is spouting off his opinions and calling them "rights."

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  4. Re:she? by Guppy06 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    No, it's intended to mean that the author cannot accept the possibility that "he" is essentially geneder neutral in English.

  5. Re:she? by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful
    What i never understood is why they need to use a gender specific.
    "to some means of determining if she's in danger of losing the game."
    could easily be "to some means of determining if the player is in danger of losing the game."
    or even better "to some means of determining if they're in danger of losing the game."
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  6. Get on with it by vga_init · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The points forwarded in the article are mere childsplay. For the most part, game designers have been doing all of these things for years; we're talking standard fare. Individual games and genres tend to suffer differently in these cases, but I don't think the problem is as rampant as the author makets it out to be. Right not to be insulted? I've never played a commercial game worth a lick that was like that; the best example they could come up with was a cell phone clone of minesweeper? Apparently this is not such a big problem.

    Instead of focusing on things that games ALREADY do, I'd rather like to see some rights that consumers need such as the right to fresh, creative content. It seems like the most popular games today are sequels and/or rehashes of old game engines and ideas. Where's the excitement?

    Also, gamers should have the right to OWN their games. That's right folks; they should be able to pay once and get a full copy, preferrebly with source. Along with this goes the right to play your game; I own dozens of Windows and DOS games that are no longer playable on my current systems. More games should be liberated so that we can port our treasured games and continue playing them.

    See, now we're talking about rights, not this "I can't figure out what the buttons for my game" nonsense.

  7. The Right to Logical Gameplay by ComputerSherpa · · Score: 3, Insightful
    When my character is presented with a puzzle, the puzzle may seem incredibly arcane and complicated at first glance, but when it is complete, I should be able to say "Ah! That makes sense. If my character had spent enough thought and observation on this puzzle, he/she could have figured it out without the need for a cheat, a walkthrough, or a brute-force." Puzzles need to make sense, or you're just torturing the player needlessly.

    Likewise, game designers should not needlessly impair the player's progress. Designers should keep the characteristics of the player-character in mind and design environments accordingly. If I am playing a fireball-hurling Mage, a wooden chest should not prove too difficult for me to open, key or no key. If I am playing a human, when confronted by a waist-height fence, I should be able to hop over it if I choose instead of worrying about the silly lock. (That doesn't mean I shouldn't be looking over my shoulder when I get to the other side, watching for dogs, guards, or laser turrets.) Any player should be able to ask, at any time, "Well, why can't I do this?" and receive a better answer than "Because you're not supposed to do it that way" (e.g. "Because you won't fit there" or "Because you'll die"). Being blocked by an invisible wall for no apparently good reason is frustrating and insulting. Put some thought into it and make a game that we can get into.

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  8. All 20 copies in this store are defective by tepples · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Software generally has a return policy of a) no returns if it's opened or b) exchange for the exact same title (to protect against defective media).

    OK, so how many exchanges for the same title does it take to convince a store that every copy of a given work will be defective in the same way?

  9. Re:she? by Pentagram · · Score: 2, Insightful

    could easily be "to some means of determining if the player is in danger of losing the game."

    This sounds a bit awkward if used repeatedly.

    or even better "to some means of determining if they're in danger of losing the game."

    Inelegant. The player is not plural so should not be referred to as "they".

  10. The Right to Play. by ElleyKitten · · Score: 2, Insightful

    From the first right: >>The majority of the time a player spends in a game, he should be making decisions, exploring, creating, overcoming challenges, or otherwise acting upon the game world in some way. Players come to play, not to watch cut-scenes. Notice that I say the majority of the time. Non-interactive elements are not forbidden, but they should not take up more than 50% of the playing time of the game.

    Maybe I'm the minority, but I like cut-scenes. I play games instead of watching movies or TV. While I enjoy action games, I love JRPGs that have hours and hours of cut-scenes, and I really wouldn't notice if the cut-scenes took up more than the 50% of the game (though I usually do all the sidequests, so I highly doubt even close to the time I spend is half cutscenes). I could even imagine a developer making a RPG-like game that didn't have battles, just exploring and cut-scenes for non-gamers. My point is that people like different things, and that as a group demanding that games have a limit to cut-scenes is about as pointless as demanding no more Ecco the Dolphin games. If you don't like it, don't buy it, but trying to stop if from being made makes no sense at all.

    Of course, it's not like this matters as all, this article will be forgetten by the time the next thing is posted on slashdot (or it will be the next thing posted on slashdot), but I just felt like giving out my two cents.

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  11. I don't agree with all points by PromANJ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "The Right to Play." - Taste is like the bottom on this one (split). If the game promises gameplay and only have "intermission" videos then I'll be disappointed, but if I like stories and the game promises that I might enjoy it just like I enjoy a movie.

    "The Right to Win." - I guess most of the offenders here are old shooter games with 100 or 255 levels of invading pixly monsters. Not sure if I have seen it in any new (big) games.

    "The Right to Instructions." - I disagree about the "bad games, period." part here. I figured out Utopia K240 without instructions (read: I didn't own the manual *cough*), and a lot of other games, and they were very good games, I still play them. Most new games have pretty decent ingame tutorials/manuals or they are self explainatory due to the low complexity. I really miss games of K240's complexity. Just imagine what could be done with that concept today!

    "The Right to Feedback." - I agree here, but I hope developers doesn't take this point as "Put as many numbers and bars floating over the head of the players as possible".

    "The Right To Motivation." - I disagree. Adventure, Exile (2D game mind you), Zelda 1, Metroid 1 and ome older RPGs were good (appealing to me) just because they didn't herd and nanny you around. They just went like: "Here's a world and some stuff, have fun!". I remember first playing Zelda 1, walking straight to the first level right away. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe the map design was so clever that it tilted me in that direction. It felt awesome finding it all by myself anyways.

    "The Right to Make Decisions." - I agree with this one, especially the mole-whacking analogy. A shooting course with flat figures that pop up might be another fitting analogy. That's how I feel playing most games today.

    "The Right to a Swift Death." - Exile (old 2D game) didn't kill off the player if things were hopeless. The player was responsible for his actions and didn't get nannied by the game. If it's impossible to mess up without dying the game is probably too limited for my taste. I'm not much for 65536 damage invisible forcefields.

    "The Right To Control Cut-Scenes." - I think most people agree with this one. I think another should be added, namely the right to skip ESRB notices and stupid DVD menus, but that's a different discussion. I just wanted to RAGE a bit about that. I'm done.

    "The Right to Quit, Pause, Save and Resume the Game." - This is a tricky one isn't it? Being able to save anywhere makes you behave sloppy, the game feels pointless cuz you feel you just can reload anyways, and you never get the same feeling of excitement when you're SO near killing the boss.
    On the other hand it's very annoying having to repeat things when you die. There's a few other solutions, like a limited amount of 'save-coins' you can use, or the Exile approach where you just teleport, or the Nethack-ish 'permadeath', to mention a few. In anyway I don't think being able to 'save-state' anywhere is an ideal solution.

  12. Re:she? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > There isn't an elegant gender-neutral pronoun,

    True enough

    > and using 'he' is just not correct.

    How is it incorrect? It's been in use as a language standard for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

    I also have no problem using "she" from time to time -- or always.

    Both are quite elegant to use, and both are easily understood as to applying to no person in particular when used in context.

    The neo-cultural imperative to strip genderosity from language is a fraud perpetrated those eager to assume paternalistic authority all the while disclaiming otherwise.

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  13. Re:she? by Fjornir · · Score: 2, Funny
    Unless you think we should strip women

    I like it!

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  14. Backups and Internet Blackmail by thirty2bit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't forget:
    1. the right to make a backup of your disc.
    2. install and play your game without having to reinstall bare Windows to do so (Starforce: hostile anti-user copy protection and Punkbuster, which currently hates GetRight of all things. Both quickly pronounce users as guilty of hacking without a trial)
    3. install and play your game without needing ANY kind of internet connection whatsoever. Half Life 2 and the (currently vaporware) Prey will never touch my systems because of that.

  15. Games that might have inspired the bill... by dbhankins · · Score: 5, Interesting
    1. Right to Play
      Final Fantasy X

    2. Right to Win
      Not sure on this one, unless he means arcade-style games that don't have an end. Perhaps he's referring to games which have a bug that prevents finishing, none of which I've had the misfortune to encounter yet.

    3. Right to instructions
      Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and other fighting games that make you figure out the combos by trial and error.

    4. Right to Feedback
      Bushido Blade

    5. Right to Motivation
      Sim City, Populous

    6. Right to Make Decisions
      Not sure, unless he means rhythm games like Parappa the Rapper or Space Channel Five

    7. The Right to a Swift Death
      Sierra's Quest games (especially Space Quest) and any number of old adventure games.

    8. The Right to Control Cut-Scenes
      Final Fantasy X

    9. The Right to Quit, Pause, Save and Resume the Game
      Final Fantasy games, Tomb Raider games, and lots of other console titles. Not to mention a horde of games based entirely on checkpoints. These are why at least one PS1 emulator comes with a "save state" function.

    10. The Right to Choose Not to Save the Game
      Checkpoint-only games like Killzone

    11. The Right to Reconfigure the Input Device
      Lots and lots of console games. Final Fantasy Tactics comes to mind. Non-console, X-Wing comes to mind.

    12. The Right Not To Be Insulted
      Never encountered this, myself.

    1. Re:Games that might have inspired the bill... by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Informative
      There were only a few places in the entire Space Quest series where you could end up in an 'unwinnable' situtation, and those were not intentional. There is one game where you can even 'try again' when you die.

      The sole exception, as far as I know, was Space Quest 2, where in the first room you needed to pick up something that you needed near the end of the game, and that was deliberate, those bastards.

      And if you got attacked by the alien you had an alien burst out of your chest later on, but I laugh at people who complain about that. First, it was five minutes of gameplay you lost, and second, um, duh. What did you think would happen?

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  16. Maxis by RealityMogul · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Here's my bitch list... err, gamers bill of rights I mean:

    Physics: If you are going to try to make a realistic combat simulation game, make sure that those nicely detailed 50 ton tanks don't come to a dead stop when you run into a wooden crate! (Battlefield 2)

    Keyboard Controls: If you are going to make a racing game that allows keyboard controls, make sure the controls are usable on more than the 100hp car you start out with. Nothing sucks quite as much as spinning out on every little turn. This one is for Juiced. NFSU2 got this right.

    Splash Screens: If you want me to know that X, Y, and Z all made parts of the game, give me a way to skip past them! I don't want to sit through 30 seconds of mandatory splash screens each time the game loads. This is really sickening when the game has a problem and keeps crashing. I didn't spend a ton of money on a PC that can load stuff damn near instantly just to be delayed for marketing purposes. At least make the video files easy to find so I can delete them.

  17. Re:What's this 'She' crap? by UserChrisCanter4 · · Score: 3, Informative

    It's possible that the author simply hasn't sat in a writing class in a few years. About 8 to 10 years ago, the MLA standard for a personal pronoun that referred to an indefinite person was "she." The MLA created this situation to rectify what was seen as the discriminatory use of "he" for years, and most style handbooks advised alternating between "he" and "she" when writing a lengthy discourse involving indefinite subjects.

    I can remember being taught in English classes that "she" was the correct way to approach a situation such as this Bill of Rights.

    Of course, after only a few years, it dawned on the members of the MLA that "she" was equally discriminating. Thus, the correct approach is now "he or she" in situations such as this, though it is very common for writers to erroneously use "they."

  18. A Right to Win violation by atrader42 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Right to Win Not sure on this one, unless he means arcade-style games that don't have an end. Perhaps he's referring to games which have a bug that prevents finishing, none of which I've had the misfortune to encounter yet.

    I actually have played such a game that was reasonably recent, called Sanity: Aiken's Artifact. Rather than use pre-rendered cinematics, all interactions were done in-engine. It was probably a 15 or 20 hour game that I got through and beat the final boss. At this point, there was to be a final interaction, which would presumably show everything going right and so on, except for the bug that in this final interaction that hero was a touch too close to a cliff and would die during the conversation, thus making it so nobody could see the ending. Arrrrghhh!

  19. Re:Because they're more awkward by DoktorSeven · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have always loved how the old 2nd Edition D&D manuals handled this. From the introduction (Advanced Dungeons & Dragons: Player's Handbook (1995), p9):

    A Note About Pronouns

    The male pronoun (he, him, his) is used exclusively throughout the AD&D game rules. We hope this won't be construed by anyone to be an attempt to exclude females from the game or imply their exclusion. Centuries of use have neutered the male pronoun. In written material it is clear, concise, and familiar. Nothing else is.

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  20. Re:One by jcenters · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alternation is awkward. He or she used repeatedly is sexist and exclusive. You can't use they or them because that be bad English.

    So here's my solution: Combine "he" and "she." Of course, that pretty much just leaves "she," and it's not really inclusive, because it leaves out objects, like artificial intelligences and robots.

    So She + He + It = Shit, our new, all inclusive pronoun.

    Take for instance, this sentence that appeared in TFA:

    "If the player doesn't get feedback, shit can't adjust shit's strategy, and the outcome will feel random. Players need to know whether their approach is working or not."

    See, MUCH better!

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  21. Or Instructions, or winning by Moraelin · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Instructions: While technically any game came with a manual, I can think of several which came with piss-poor manuals, including one whose manual seemed to be made for a completely different game. It described stuff that didn't even exist in the game, or didn't work even vaguely like in the manual. I can only assume that they made the manual at a very early point, and changed their mind about half the design by the time they finished it.

    Winning: I can think of a lot of games which, while technically weren't impossible to win, felt a need to throw some massive tantrum at you at some point, that was out of your control and nigh impossible to recover from.

    E.g., try playing China in EU2. Everything is fun and games until the 1600's, when the game suddenly throws some scripted events at you that raise dissent sky-high and drop your stability in the basement. I mean so high that you literally can't recruit an army any more, and your tax income drops massively. Any conquests you did to that point _will_ be lost, as everyone revolts, _and_ the only way to stabilize the country into something even vaguely playable at that point is to basically move the army out of the capital and hope the rebels kill your government.

    While technically it doesn't necessarily mean you've "lost", it sure feels that way.

    Or take "Crusader Kings" where, since you're playing a dynasty as opposed to a country, if one of your emperors doesn't have sons your game may well be over. Literally. (Or some other unpleasantries, like finding yourself allowed to continue playing as the Baron of East Bumfuckistan, instead of the empire you've worked on building so far.)

    In both cases we're talking stuff that's basically outside the player's control. E.g., in EU2 all that condensed nastiness in the 1600's is on timed scripts. It doesn't matter if you're the best emperor ever and your population loves you, it doesn't matter if your policies don't reflect the historical causes of those revolts, you _will_ have those and your work _will_ be undone as your empire crumbles before your eyes. It will happen no matter what you do, and even if you had any feedback in advance (but you don't) you couldn't prevent it.

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  22. Bullshit by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Informative

    You seem to define "deffective" as in "the CD was physically unreadable", which is just about the only thing that would be solved by giving someone another copy. What if the software itself is broken and deffective? Because that's the actual product I bought there, and the CD was just the medium it comes on.

    E.g., the german version of Victoria threw a script _syntax_ error right at the start of a new campaign. Yes, you've read that right. Not a crash to desktop, not some graphics glitch, _nothing_ even remotely blamable on my hardware or drivers. A script _syntax_ error. That game couldn't work as released on _any_ hardware.

    E.g., a german version again, Everquest 2 was released with a completely broken translation, which actually did impact gameplay. NPCs and items would be named completely differently in the quest text and in the actual game, making it literally impossible to do what you were told. The NPC you were told to kill simply didn't even exist in the game. (And generally, you know it's bad when even the few fans tell you to try translating it word-for-word back into English, to figure out some texts.)

    E.g., Phantasy Star Online Blue Burst doesn't seem to be able to connect at all on my XP machine, although it works flawlessly on my Windows 2000 machine. (So, no, it's not a case of ports being blocked by the router or ISP.) Mind you, I needed to dig through tech support faqs even just to get it to the point it would try to connect: first it didn't even let me input my name and password. No, literally, typing anything in those input boxes was a futile exercise. The only key they accepted was basically escape to cancel it.

    E.g., to take an older game, take The Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall. The collision detection was so bad, that you'd fall into the void even when running on flat groud, or when teleporting back to town. I'm picking on it, instead of newer ones, because it's a clear-cut case of deffective software, and can't be blamed on drivers or hardware. It took many _months_ for Bethesda to try to fix it, and eventually they gave up and made a cheat code to teleport you back to the beginning of the map if you fell into the void.

    E.g., Morrowind was shipped with a pretty nasty race condition that resulted in a crash to desktop when zoning. But as is usually the case with race conditions, on different PCs it produced wildly different results. On some you had a crash every couple of hours, but some people couldn't even leave the starting ship at all, because the game would crash when they went through the hatch. I'm not even going into the aspect that a game that crashes at all _is_ deffective, but the fact remains that some people just couldn't play it as shipped.

    Etc.

    So giving them a replacement CD is gonna solve... what? No, seriously.

    Yeah, they were sooo trying to rip you off, by not accepting a game they couldn't run at all. Not. Geesh.

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  23. Which brings us back to square 1 by Moraelin · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, then, if "he" can be used to mean any gender, then why can't "she" be used in exactly the same way? It's just as clear, it's certainly familiar (it's one word you hear every day), and it's just as concise (one extra "s" now and then won't lengthen the whole article by any significant amount. And when you read it, it's still one syllable.)

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating either of them as such, but I _do_ find it peculiar that someone would need to throw a "what's with this 'she' crap?" tantrum. Using 'she' was insulting... how?

    I don't know, I'm a guy myself, but I find it anywhere between hillarious and idiotic (or most often a mixture of both) the way some guys absolutely have to defend their supremacy in some field as if their manhood depended on it. As if, god forbid, even acknowledging that women gamers exist (e.g., by using a 'she' now and then) could make their dick shrivel and fall off.

    Let me rephrase that: I don't even think it's a "guy thing" as such. It's not about "guys" as such, it's about complexed insecure guys who need to put someone down just to mask their own insecurities.

    And you'd thing that what with being the victims of that, nerds would know better than to do that. In practice, frankly, it's the exact opposite. When you see someone blanketly insulting whole population segments, for the most idiotic and irrelevant pretexts (e.g., that they don't use vi, or that they play on a non-PK facet in a MMO, or whatever), chances are it'll be a nerd.

    To anyone falling in that category: folks, get a life. Gaming is just a passtime, no more. It doesn't make you a "man" or anything, it just makes you less bored. Noone will come and beg to carry your baby because of your clan's scores in CS or your Linux PDA or whatever.

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  24. Re:Don by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The best solution is the nethack solution. You can quit & save whenever you want, but you can only load it once. i.e, it's not save per se but rather stand-by.

    At least for parts where you usually don't have any save spots, it will solve the problem. For the save points, it can be allowed to save and load how many times you'd like, as expected from a save point.

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  25. Re:One by cortana · · Score: 2, Informative

    One can also use the Spivak pronouns if one doesn't want to come off as sounding like a bit of a toff. :)

  26. Instructions by HunterZ · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I think this article is silly but brings up a few interesting points. I do disagree with the "Right to Instructions" however. I think too many games these days have annoying hand-holding tutorials that the player is forced to endure for up to the first couple of hours of the game. Fable is a good recent example of this.

    I really think that with some forethought, many games could be designed to allow the player to learn how to play the game without handholding. An obvious example is to simply make things easier on the player at first - avoiding allowing opportunities for any major player decisions or actions early in the game that can severely stunt or otherwise negatively affect the player's progression later on. I remember playing Arcanum and not being able to leave the first town because I hadn't concentrated on any one skillset enough to get past the goons guarding the exit - I'd have had to start the whole game over and lose a couple hours of gameplay.

    I can live with optional tutorials, but it's my opinion that they're still indicative of a lack of good game design. I think the best approach is to include a manual and just make the game a little more forgiving in the beginning without doing any overt handholding. Draw the player into the world instead of destroying the immersion with silly tutorials.

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  27. I like 10 Commandments better by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 2, Funny

    1.) Thou shalt not suck
    2.) Thou shalt not covet another game/genre unless you do something new or different.
    3.) Thou shalt not delay your release by more than 3 months.
    4.) Thou shalt not glorify "smackin' a hoe," "clocking a grip," or "Bustin a nut."
    5.) Thou shalt honor good game design over flashy graphics.
    6.) Thou shalt not involve Mary Kate and Ashley, Britney Spears, or any other pre-teen/teen manufactured idol/heart throb.
    7.) Thou shalt not overhype your creation only to produce a shiny turd.
    8.) Thou shalt put effort into mini-games/extras or just leave them out.
    9.) Thou shalt end your game with some sort of closeure other than just the names of the artistic director.
    10.) Thou shalt not produce endless sequels in which you add a "quirky" sidekick.

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  28. My Right by pudge · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have the right not to be subjected to female third-person pronouns when the antecedent is of indeterminant gender.