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Scientist Says Most Scientific Papers Are Wrong

An anonymous reader writes "According to epidemiologist John Ioannidis, the majority of published scientific papers are wrong. If Ioannidis's own paper is right, a randomly chosen scientific paper has less than a 50% chance of being true. He also says that many papers may only be accurate measures of the prevailing bias among scientists. However, a senior editor of a scientific journal says that scientists are already aware of this: 'When I read the literature, I'm not reading it to find proof like a textbook. I'm reading to get ideas. So even if something is wrong with the paper, if they have the kernel of a novel idea, that's something to think about.'"

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  1. Lamarck and Darwin were wrong too by geomon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Wow! Science can be wrong.

    That is how the system works.

    But just because these two scientists were wrong about the precise mechanics of evolution doesn't mean that they were wrong about how the data should be interpreted. The data shows that life has progressed to meet the demands of its environment. Survival of the fittest is correct, but there is no straight-line progression of lifeforms leading one from another as was supposed when these authors first penned their ideas.

    Scientific ideas may come and go, but the data set just gets larger. That is why this guy can claim the others are wrong: he has a better data set.

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    1. Re:Lamarck and Darwin were wrong too by vanka · · Score: 4, Informative

      If you received a PhD in 2003 and were taught that natural selection is the driving force of evolution, then I am sorry that you wasted your money.

      Darwin's original theory of evolution was based on two very obvious things; variations among organisms and natural selection. Natural selection was not something that Darwin "discovered", the idea had been around for a bit and is quite intuitive - those that are better adapted to their environment will survive; rather he proposed a mechanism through which beneficial changes in a population are preserved in the offspring. But he did not do a good job of how these changes are brought about. We all know that the offspring of an organism will not be identical to the parent (unless it is a clone); so that children are taller, stronger, lighter/darker (you get the idea) than their parents. What Darwin proposed was that those variations were unfavorable to an organism were weeded out by natural selection (i.e. the organism was killed by predators, could not feed, etc); while the advantageous were preserved. Darwin assumed that the variation that he saw in a species (or between closely related species) would continue indefinitely; that if an organism that can run 40 mph has offspring that can run 1 mph faster and the offspring's offspring continue the trend, this will continue until in several generations these organisms will be able to reach speeds of 100 mph.

      This is where Darwin went wrong, although we must not be too hard on him because he had no knowledge of genetics. The genetic code of an organism puts an upper limit on the variation that is possible. Mendel demonstrated this in his famous experiments with peas; which incidentally took place a little after Darwin wrote "Origin". He crossed peas with red and white flowers and was able to get red, white, and pink flowers; but he never got orange, blue, or yellow flowers. Mendel could only select for those traits that were encoded in the genes. So if the population as a whole did not already have the genes for 100 mph speed (recessive or otherwise) there is no way that natural selection can select those genes. A good rule of thumb to remember is that natural selection cannot select what does not exist. So natural selection cannot drive evolution by itself as it cannot produce new traits, and the traits of an organism are determined by its' genes. So there needs to be a mechanism or process that can create new genes; and this is where mutations come in. Mutations by definition are copying mistakes that change the genes. So if there are new genes, natural selection can do its' job of weeding out the bad traits and leaving the good ones. This is known as Neo-Darwinism as the primary idea of primitive organisms evolving into complex ones remains but the process driving it is not natural selection but mutations. In Neo-Darwinism, natural selection is seen as just an obvious footnote.

  2. Re:Reach by cahiha · · Score: 5, Informative

    Whether anything anyone says is right or wrong, it's a matter of opinion first and foremost.

    No, it's not.

    Our biology does not provide us

    Our biology provides us with excellent truth detectors: throughout most of primate evolution, if you were wrong about whether your food was poisonous or whether there was a lion hiding in the bushes, you didn't get to pass on your genes. You didn't get to debate social relativism with the lion before he made a tasty meal out of you.

    Most of science is still ultimately about matters like that, matters that have good answers, at least in principle.

    Some science has veered off course, however. Every major scientific discipline (physics, biology, chemistry, etc.) has subareas where people start conflating experimental facts with opinion, aesthetics, and prejudice.

    So, scientific truth is not a matter of opinion, but a lot of what is published in science is not about scientific truth.