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Blog Faces Lawsuit Over Reader Comments

Carl Bialik from the WSJ writes "In a legal case being watched closely by bloggers, an Internet company has sued the owner of a blog for comments posted to his site by readers, the Wall Street Journal Online reports. Traffic-Power.com, which sells tools for boosting Web traffic, sued Aaron Wall, age 25, over statements posted in the comments section of Wall's search-engine-optimization blog, SEOBook.com. (Wall also has posted about the case.) 'Legal analysts said the case falls into somewhat murky legal territory, but that Mr. Wall may have some protection from liability under federal law,' WSJ.com says. 'Courts generally have held that the operators of computer message boards and mailing lists cannot be held liable for statements posted by other people. Blogs might be viewed in a similar light, they said.' However, Daniel Perry, a lawyer who has followed the case, says that Wall's case is complicated by his own negative comments about Traffic-Power, which could be seen as a competitor to his site. 'To be candid, he sort of moved into this moving propeller,' Perry said. 'The Internet is not your personal stump to beat up people.'"

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  1. Power of the pulpit by the_rev_matt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "The Internet is not your personal stump to beat up people."

    Actually, that's one of the greatest strengths of the internet. True freedom of speech.

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    1. Re:Power of the pulpit by ifwm · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It's not freedom of speech that's the issue here.

      It's freedom from the consequences of your speech that is being debated.

  2. Libel or 1st Amendment? by emidln · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Maybe I don't understand, but if this isn't libel then isn't it covered under the 1st amendment's free speech clause?

  3. I wondered this as I blasted a business... by bgfay · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I just bought a Scion xA and had to drive forty miles out of my way to do it. The reason was that my local dealership screwed around with me so much that I couldn't stand to buy from them.

    I went on the site scionlife.com and in their "Review Dealers" section ripped Romano Scion of Syracuse, NY. I told how they had done me wrong and advised others to never shop there.

    Is ScionLife liable? Am I? Is Slashdot liable now that I've put it up here?

    And finally, if someone spray paints a swastica on my garage door while I'm out of town and unable to remove it, am I liable for a hate crime?

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    1. Re:I wondered this as I blasted a business... by kraada · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Whether or not you actually are liable, you can (and may well) be sued for libel and defamation of character. Even if you're innocent, the question arises: how willing are you to defend yourself? How many lawyers will you hire for how many years just to prove you didn't do it?

      The lawsuit isn't bad because the website is going to get convicted it's because if these suits are going to continue popping up websites will not be allowed to let comments be posted due to the cost of proving themselves innocent.

      Being a litigious society sucks because of the amount of time and money wasted on lawyers. And that's really 99% of the reason why we should care.

  4. How dumb. by Poromenos1 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How can you sue someone for other peoples' comments on his/her blog? Most people don't even read the comments, and are certainly not responsible for their content. That's like suing the phone company for what someone said on the phone.

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  5. but apparently... by kevin+lyda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...the court systems are there to beat people up with.

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  6. Horse pucky by fatcatman · · Score: 5, Insightful

    'The Internet is not your personal stump to beat up people.'

    Horse pucky. If you aren't free to share your opinion, then this isn't the United States I thought I lived in. More and more, it seems like the freedom of speech is directly related to how much money you have.

    There is a huge difference between blatently attempting to undermine and destroy a reputation, and simply expressing your opinion (negative or otherwise). The ability to express one's opinion, even if said opinion is extremely negative, should be protected speech.

    The people filing this lawsuit are nothing more than schoolyard bullies.

    1. Re:Horse pucky by ScentCone · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The people filing this lawsuit are nothing more than schoolyard bullies

      Unless they're right. In which case they're making sure that another party isn't abusing the first amendment and BSing while presenting nonsense as fact. It could be done by either party, for any reason, and the only issue is whether or not the person posting his comments, or allowing the other comments to stay up on his web site, are truthful.

      The truth may indeed be extremely negative, but who cares, as long as it's the truth. But a lot of people post demonstrable lies in blogs, hoping that the search engines will pick up on it, etc. The person being lied about should have recourse, whether large or small.

      In this case, how have you made your determination about the truthfullness (and thus, non-libelous) nature of the web content in question? I didn't see enough to go on, so you must know more.

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  7. I don't get it by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everything I know about IP I learned on slashdot, but...

    (Sorry, I've always wanted to say that. Actually, most of what I know about IP was learned while helping my SO study for her IP class in her MBA program)

    Let me get the facts straight, as the article seemed a little light on details. Some guy, in the US, posts factual information or personal opinion on his weblog, and allows others to do so as well. These include unkind words about a company who makes a product or service which may compete with a product or service with which the author is financially involved. (try and parse that one)

    A Trade Secret, traditionally, is something so necessary to your core business and so valuable that you believe that keeping it a secret is more likely to make you money than patenting it, or it is unpatentable. Telling the world a trade secret is only unlawful if you are contractually bound not to tell, or if you came by the information through theft or other nefarious means. Once a trade secret is no longer secret, you have no protection (hence the incentive for patenting and licensing).

    So, unless this guy stole the information, or is under a nondisclosure agreement, this looks an awful lot like free speech. The others who posted in his site may have written unkind things as well, but the comments are (I assume) clearly delineated as visitor comments, and not the writings of the author. I think you can go pretty far toward slander without getting into trouble that way.

    I'm wondering why this is even an issue, unless its just punishement through lawyer fees, regardelss of the outcome.

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  8. No, it doesn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    All freedom of speech means is that the Government won't try to stop your (should be political) speech.

    It seems like the idea here is that you should have freedom of speech if you're criticizing the government, but not if you're criticizing a business.

    Considering the large number of people I run across who espouse the belief the government should have as little power as possible and businesses should take up any important functions instead, this would seem in the long run to maybe lead to not having any meaningful free speech at all.

    "Libel" doesn't really have anything to do with it. Did you read the article? You know, the one this comments section is supposedly talking about? The lawsuit doesn't even specify exactly which comments that seobook.com is being sued for, and the claims which were likely to have sparked the lawsuit seem to have been corroborated by other sources. In this light it seems likely that the comments prompting the lawsuit at worst are legitimate criticisms of this trafficpower company, and at best are incorrect but honestly meant by the people who posted them.

    Ever heard the term "chilling effects"? The problem is we have to err on either one side or the other. Either we are too cautious with freedom of speech and allow bad information to flourish, or we are too strict and dissuade people from exercising their freedom. There isn't a middle ground. The thing is though that if we err on the side of caution, nothing is hurt. People can make up their own minds and decide not to trust an "anonymous coward" on the internet unless what they say can be corroborated. However if we err on the other side, and wind up silencing people because they cannot risk the consequences of having spoken, then there is no way to repair this. Those comments are lost forever.

    There is very little consequence to such actions so people aren't inhibited.

    Ah yes, this horrible environment in which there are no negative consequences for expressing oneself... how will civilization survive.

  9. Re:Freedom of speech comes with responsibility. by moviepig.com · · Score: 4, Insightful
    One of the great problems with the Internet currently is that there are so many anonymous cowards, who troll, spam and lie.

    It's not a problem, but merely a behavior.

    The problem is (and long has been) the degree to which we've tended to believe the printed word, no matter the source. The Internet's gradually improving that situation.

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