How Much Money do Programmers Really Make?

bigman2003 asks: "ADTmag.com recently released a list of average salaries for IT workers. Usually when I see these lists, I find out that I am grossly below the average salary. But this time I was very surprised to see that I am actually above the average! This is partly because of a recent raise, but it is also because the numbers quoted in this survey are lower than what I've seen the past from other surveys. This report quotes about $56,000 for the average application developer. I am a web developer (sure, laugh all you want) and I wanted to know specifically: How much are other web developers were making? And- How many hours a week does it take you to make it?"

Comments

Re:how much am I payed?

[pilgrim23]

You mean they PAY for this? I thought the only renumeration was /. mod points....

Bah

[groman]

Well, let's separate developers from code monkeys. Now, code monkeys average about $45K. Developers average about $75K. Sure, I pulled that out of my ass, but it's a big ass, what else do you want me to do with it?

Re:how much am I payed?

[Anonymous Coward]

Not to be harsh, but learning to spell words like "paid" correctly could probably increase your chances of getting a raise.

Sure, everyone knows what you mean, but in this world you can't just be competent, you have to be seen to be competent.

Simple formula

[Average_Joe_Sixpack]

If you quit and are begged/pleaded with to return and are offered a raise then you were being under-paid.

If you quit and leave with a pat on the back then you were being over-paid.

(... bottom line you are just a serf that will live a boring-unimportant-debt-filled life and most likely will welcome death after 30)

Re:Simple formula

[Coop_DH]

there are many who welcome it already

Re:Simple formula

[xdroop]

and most likely will welcome death after 30

Absolutely, I would have welcomed death after 30. But you know that after I moved out of my mom's basement, here in the real world things are much better.

Go on, try it.

Life sucks. Get a helmet.

Re:Not sure, but I bet I make less than you

[Anonymous Coward]

Give us a call when you turn 18 :>

You must do a lotta coke, pal...

[PCM2]

...cuz you're making triple what I make and I live in San Francisco. A 30-year mortgage payment on a $600K house at 8% interest is what -- $4,200? Where's the other $137,000 a year going?

Re:I can never figure out what mine should be

[sysadmn]

After two to three years making it so complex only you understand it, you can pretty much name your price!

Re:Short answer

[WebMasterP]

Social engineering? Is that what you guys are calling living in your parents basement now days?

Re:Engineer

[NitsujTPU]

I'm the CEO of a B2B middleware provider that's about to IPO. I pull down $6,000,000,000 a year, and that's before you count my side job selling ice cubes to eskimos.

I get to spend most of my work day (30-40 mins on average) coding in f*ckf*ck. During that time, I write natural language systems that are being deployed on Mars rovers. These are secret Mars rovers that we're using to help interpret Martian languages.

All of this can hardly keep my, only moderately sized, mansion in Luxembourg afloat.

Re:Not That Easy

[skiman1979]

Too bad you got the quote wrong. ;-)

Tom ... "Look, I already told you! I deal with the goddamn customers so the engineers don't have to! I have people skills! I am good at dealing with people! Can't you understand that? WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!"