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Hitachi's Terabyte DVD Recorder
lposeidon writes "Hitachi has a terabyte DVD recorder. Looks like its an oversized TIVO box with 2 500GB harddrives, all for the low, low price of $1180" It's also fully high def capable.
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Story is a dupe...original story can be found here.
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...but many people will have to reply in "dupe" pointing out that it is NOT a "Terabyte DVD recorder". It is a terabyte DVR with a normal DVD recorder built in to the case.
It's like someone recorded the article, and is playing it back for us to flame a second time!
Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
The terabyte version is not $1180; it is nearly double that.
From TFA:
The recorders will go on sale in Japan from next month. They are expected to retail from about 130,000 yen ($1,180) for the cheapest model to 230,000 yen for the one-terabyte recorder, which stores data on two 500 gigabyte hard disk drives.
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Geez, it's like that stupid game you played in grade school where a whispered phrase went around the room, and was almost totally different by the time it had gone through 15-20 people.
/. titles that you can't add "HDD"? "Terabyte HDD / DVD recorder combo box." There, now that wasn't so hard.
The article subtitle meat is "...the world's first hard disk drive/DVD recorder that can store one terabyte of data..."
Is there really that little space in
As for the dupe, does it count if the first post on it was vaporware?
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
You can store the first Slashdot story on the first drive, and the second Slashdot story on the second drive.
I'm a big tall mofo.
welcome our new misleading title overlords..
Tivo's a brand name. This device is made by Hitachi, so it's not a Tivo. Hence, you should just call it an oversized DVR.
Now I can download the entire Internet like I've always wanted to.
I'm waiting for a temporal TIVO so I can watch shows before I record them.
netdude built a 1.6TB (usable) TiVo unit, but doesn't say what it cost.
I do not deploy Linux. Ever.
... but then I'd be repeating myself ... again.
A 250 meg drive and decent content. Really this smacks to me of one of those 100 CD jukeboxes. Nice to impress your friends for 35 seconds, but after that...
I'm disturbed. After seeing this article twice and just now catching that it is not what it mentions in the title.
This is a crap article....misleading to say the least.
Whoop-di-doo. Two 500gig hard drives and a a common DVD-burner. Anyone could build a PC with 1gig of storage and a DVD burner.
This is a "1 Terabyte Hard Drive Recorder w/DVD Burner"
What I want is a new bloody medium that will hold 1,000gig so I can burn archives of photos, video, etc. on to a just a few discs.
Nothing... other than to try and rip us off.
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Terrabyte? My god, the disks must be the size of a planet!
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Get with the times. The metric meanings as applied to units of bits and bytes have been officially adopted and tbe binary meanings are now tera-binary-bytes, tebibytes, or TiB and giga-binary-bytes, gibibytes, or GiB. (Similarly for MiB and KiB, and up the scale too.)
Google gibibytes to find out more, both for the official words and people still complaining about it (i.e. get both sides). Frankly, adopting kilo- because 1024 is close to 1000 was a bad idea from the start, and that choice is why there is a difference of nearly 0.1 TB between 1 TB and 1 TiB.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
From TFA: "Hitachi said it did not have concrete plans for launching the products in overseas markets, explaining that consumers in Europe and the United States were not as keen on high-end recorders."
I am very happy with my MythTV PVR (well, it could be a bit more stable, but it's still very usable). I have two HD tuners and two analog tuners, so I can record a lot of stuff.
One difficulty of open solutions is that they can't handle encrypted channels (ESPN, Showtime, etc). A commercial DVR, with 'CableCard' support would solve this. -- Of course, you would also give up the commercial removal/skipping, full networked operation, unlimited hardware/software, etc.. I guess I'll stick with MythTV.
I'm curious why there appear to be no commercial, modular DVRs where you can add storage via USB2/Firewire.
In an ideal world, the entire system would be modular with connectivity via both Ethernet and USB2/Firewire.
I'd have:
Base module -- akin to a Tivo. Includes CPU, storage, tuner and display output. Has Firewire/USB2 ports and Ethernet
Remote module -- Base module with no storage, but ethernet ports, USB2/Firewire, tuner & display. Ideal for bedroom.
Storage modules -- HDD / DVD recording boxes cabled via FW/USB2 to a base or remote module.
Recording scheduling would be distributed dynamically among units based on existing schedules and available storage, and the units could play any program on a connected unit.
For the neophyte, they could sell a "base" module akin to a Tivo's hardware and sophisticates could add additional stuff as they see fit.
Could you please pass me a Kleenex("soft facial tissue")?
I'm out of Q-tips ("cotton-tipped swabs"), can you pick up another box at the store?
Do you have any Chapstick ("moisturizing lip balm")?
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...but at least it'll be compatible with competitor Hitach's new 500GB drive.
You can hold down the "B" button for continuous firing.
The price for this is higher than buying the shows that you would want to record anyway. the artical used the Simpsons as an example, all of the DVD box set will only cost approx $400. Do you realise how long it would take to see any profit from this? (hint: by then better/cheaper stuff will be around)
Actually, the metric prefix can still be used for both. If you want to be specific you use GiB.
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actually, you need to get with the times.
we've been using binary for as long as there have been computers.
suddenly the hard drive manufacturers want to inflate the size of their drives to deceive customers; that doesn't mean we have to adopt their nonsensical system.
ram isn't measured in kibbles n' bits, sorry i mean bibbybytes. no operating system or computer program uses dog food notation.
this is just a new way to deceive end users for the benefit of storage manufacturers.
anyone who knows anything about computers, knows that storage is measured in binary and not metric. it has a different meaning in computing technology and has since we've had computers. even now, unix, linux, windows, mac report the binary size for storage, including RAM.
so no, you bought their ridiculous propoganda and marketing but thankfully, not everyone did.
they can keep their fraudulent metric system and stuff it. i hear it's all the rage amongst dogs ages 1-5.
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This is like the Playstation 2 box, manual, dualshock that was selling on ebay for $300 when the PS2 first came out.
suddenly the hard drive manufacturers want to inflate the size of their drives to deceive customers;
It isn't sudden, sonny. They've been using metric measure of hard drive capacity back when hard drives were still measured in megabytes.
And remember those high-density 1.44 MB 3.5-inch disks? That "MB" is a combination of a metric 1000 and a binary 1024 factor. They're actually 1440 KiB disks.
For a long time the discrepancy between metric and binary maeasure was glossed over by saying it was "unformatted capacity" and that "formatted capacity" was much less. The truth is that the actual space taken up by formatting a drive for a particular filesystem is miniscule compared to the difference between a GB and a GiB. Yet people still quote the "formatted capacity" myth when trying to explain why their new 500 TB drive comes up 50 GB short.
It's just wrong to make people learn one special meaning of kilo- for computer memory and have every other unit in the world using the standard meaning. Or do you think a Liter of water should have a mass of 1024 grams?
It gets worse when you have to consider whether metric or binary measure is intended, especially when people are using them in DSL transfer rates. It's bad enough that people can't keep their bit and byte unit capitalization consistent (b vs. B). Is that megabytes per second or megabits per second? Surely not millibits per second! And is that mega- as in million or mega as in 1,048,576? Or is it 1,024,000? I know of one ISP that said their DSL transfer caps were metric. They wouldn't start charging for overages until the binary threshhold was passed, but the overage charge would be calculated from the amount you were over in metric units.
I too first objected to "kibibytes" as so much kibitzing (and snickered at my own cleverness at that), but the rationale behind it is sound. When I want to be absolutely clear, I will use GiB for binary gigabytes and metric-GB for metric gigabytes.
Besides, when you're talking about hundreds of gigabytes of storage, do you really care that the block size is a power of two anymore?
"Get with the times?" The time you want me to get with is the 20th Century. You should get with the 3rd Millennium.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
How can it be a DVD RECORDER if it is recording onto two HARD DRIVES ?
What is the point of recording 1TB of data onto harddrives if you can only fit 4.7Gb on a DVD?
Sure, you can play it back off the hard drives, but then you have not recorded any DVDs.
well overall consistency is a very good thing but as you've pointed out, we're a long way away.
i personally object to having to use demeaning new standards that non-computer scientists have deemed to be the official nomenclature.
we need more education, not capitulation to confusing new standards, which i still believe is mostly for the benefit of the storage industry.
that would solve the problems which you bring up. people don't know about using small b for bits and capital B for bytes. and yes, it isn't confusing at all to have kilo mega giga etc mean one thing for the computing industry and another for every other field. it can be learned in a few minutes if given the opportunity of education. and quite frankly, the transfer rates of mechanical and optical devices is certainly fine being expressed in bits rather than bytes. again it doesn't take too much time or effort to convert from one unit to another.
progress is good but here it's just being done for the sake of change. take 60 seconds and explain the issue and most people will be just fine and ready to go.
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Not actually a dupe!
The origional story said "hitachi will do this in a month"
The current story says "hitachi it's, and it costs this much". The story should have had a "previously mentioned" but that doesn't make it a dupe
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