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Half-Terabyte Hard Drive Reviewed

EconolineCrush writes "The Tech Report has posted an in-depth review of Hitachi's half-terabyte Deskstar 7K500, the largest hard drive available on the market. The drive is compared with five of the latest drives from Maxtor, Seagate, and Western Digital, so the review serves as a good round-up of the fastest Serial ATA drives on the market. Performance testing is quite extensive, covering desktop applications, load times, file copy tests, multi-user workloads, disk-intensive multitasking, and even noise levels and power consumption."

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  1. full article mirror & comment by winkydink · · Score: 3, Informative

    here

    How does Joe Sixpack back up 500Gb? That's an awful lot of digital pics & videos.

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    1. Re:full article mirror & comment by misleb · · Score: 4, Funny

      When does Joe Sixpack even consider backing up *any* data?

      -matthew

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    2. Re:full article mirror & comment by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Funny

      The only thing Joe Sixpack backs up is his Ford.

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    3. Re:full article mirror & comment by NetNifty · · Score: 5, Insightful

      About a minute after it's too late to save their data, usually.

    4. Re:full article mirror & comment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      back when I was a tech for a small local computer store we had a guy come in desperate to get his businesses records back working on his laptop. Said he'd had everything in order set up by his son so it worked for him and he needed it back exactly how he had it, with his data intact.

      We checked out the drive in the Toshiba laptop he brought in and found not a thing on it bar a fresh default install of XP. Things didn't look good, and we ran what we could over it finding nothing. Guy comes back, we couldn't get his data so he starts threatening legal action cos his entire business depends on the data on that laptop. We explain it's been formatted, back to the state it was when it was brand new.

      turns out... it WAS brand new. Barely a week old when he brought it to us, the idiot had just up & SOLD his other laptop without any thought to backup & restore, then bought a new one the same model and expected to be able to use it just like the old one.

      Saw him again a few months later. he tried to get back in contact with the guy he'd sold it to, but it'd been stripped and parts sold off on eBay. Apparently he tried suing that guy too.

  2. Just so you know by Seth+Finklestein · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't think any of you know this, but this is the same Deskstar line that IBM sold to try and save face. I personally lost seven hard drives due to the poor manufacturing quality. Those hard drives contained data that was invaluable to me.

    I strongly urge all of Slashdot to boycott Hitachi and its so-called "DeathStar" drives.

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    1. Re:Just so you know by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      I personally lost seven hard drives due to the poor manufacturing quality. Those hard drives contained data that was invaluable to me.

      Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me seven times?

    2. Re:Just so you know by freidog · · Score: 5, Informative

      While Hitachi did by IBM's HDD wing, we need to be clear.
      The actual "DeathStar" drives were a very select line. IBM tried to put 5 platters into their high capacity 75GXP line, the norm is 4 for 3.5'' disks.
      These lead to excessive head crashed (I've heard up to around 30% of the drives met their death this way).

      Even before IBM sold the HDD buisness they had gone back to a 4 platter design which effectivley elminated the 'death' part of the deathstar line.

      If you like to boycott them based on passed wrongs, that's fine and your call. (Ther are brands I avoid to this day because of past buiness practices). But there are no quality / reliability issues with any of the current Hitachi hard drives.

  3. Size soon not being an issue by Pyrowolf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    We're getting to a point in storage mediums where size is outgrowing necessity, at least in the consumer aspect. Geeks aside, what everyday user needs a half-terabyte of space?

    1. Re:Size soon not being an issue by angle_slam · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I'll give you home video enthusiasts, up to a point. But I was emphasising everyday users, not any specialty professions such as photographers or videographers.

      I agree with you about photographers. But not about video. It's not just videographers who need space. It's anyone with a miniDV camera. Each tape is 13GB of space. When you edit, you need scratch space on the hard drive to work. It's easy to fill up 500 GB with video.

      Personally, I have 500 GB (a 200 and a 300). While I have an abnormally large music collection (115GB), I only have about 100 GB free on the hard drive. So it was pretty easy for me to have 250+GB of video. (Basically anyone with a kid and a video camera fills up tapes quickly).

  4. How many floppies do I need to back this beast up? by RoterheadPro · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't think my four banger calculator goes that high?

  5. Quality by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Informative

    And what's the quality of these drives. We're pretty much at the point now a days that we consider hard drives to be expendable. I usually have to replace a hard drive every five to six months, and often these are still under warranty. It seems the quality of manufacture is just the pits.

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    1. Re:Quality by mcrbids · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I usually have to replace a hard drive every five to six months, and often these are still under warranty.

      Man, where are you BUYING your drives? The back of a truck? I've had ONE hard disk failure in a few YEARS, despite working with several dozen of them. (knock on wood) I purchase at LEAST 1 per month, and just don't have trouble. (Though, when it matters, I buy two identical drives and configure with RAID1)

      Or, are you just whining in order to whore for karma?

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    2. Re:Quality by Linker3000 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I buy two very similar capacity units from two different manufacturers (ie: Seagate + Western Digital) so I don't get caught out by a manufacturing defect - that happened many years ago to a company for which I was doing some freelance work - two hard disks in their server's RAID 5 array had drive motor bearing failures within about 15 minutes of each other!

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  6. Deathstars by GoatMonkey2112 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Please tell me that these are not built on the same technology as the old IBM Deathstars.

  7. Nifty? by ResQuad · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yes - Its great to see a drive thats not actually half a terrabyte (because 1024/2 = 512 != 500) but getting close to such a mark. My question is - does it really have to be such and uber preforming drive?

    In my data server I have one good, fast drive (or some times two in a raid 1) running the OS and all regularly access files. Then I stick the big slow drives in for storing files for long term. Maybe thats just because I dont activly need 500gigs of data - but I'd rather see tests about how well it stands up to stress, heat, and etc - indicators on how long the drive will last.

  8. Disk drive brand voodoo by winkydink · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Everybody has their own horro story and their own brand of drives that they postively hate. I know people that will nver buy a Seagate drive and swear buy IBM, and son, and so on and so on for every single drive mfg out there. Every mfg has had a large bad run of drives in their history. What do you propose people do, use plastic? NVRAM? floppies?

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    1. Re:Disk drive brand voodoo by MightyMartian · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Well, for the commercial systems, clearly RAID and frequent backups are the answer, and that's what we've done where I work. We have ever expectation that the drives we buy are just pure crap that aren't likely to survive a year.

      For the home user it's a little different. They're not likely to have RAID, nor are they likely to have backup systems of any real ability. For them, it means that the shitty hard drives being pushed out by manufacturers who have become addicted to storage capacity at the expense of actual quality of manufacture are going to spell a disaster every couple of years. It means the expense of someone retrieving (if possible) important information and the expense of replacing the drive itself with another crappy drive. It looks like the computer world has turned into the same kind of business as the automotive world; manufactured obselesence.

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  9. crashes firefox by crabpeople · · Score: 3, Informative
    anyone elses firefox on windows crash on that article? i was clicking next and the 3rd page crashed my browser!

    now all the pages do it!

    someone doesnt want me to get 500gb drives

    someone, from the govt...

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  10. Re:another review posted on slashdot earlier by theskeptic · · Score: 4, Informative

    for the same hard disk.

    Hitachi's 500GB SATA-II Reviewed. An odd dupe.

  11. Jumping to conclusions... by op12 · · Score: 3, Informative

    To make a long article short (sort of):

    Conclusions

    As the only 500GB hard drive currently available on the market, the Deskstar 7K500 is really without peers. Its closest competition is 100GB behind, and some manufacturers are stuck with drives in the 300GB range. Exclusivity carries a price, though. With a $320 street price, the 7K500 has a higher cost per GB than lower capacity drives. However, the 7K500's higher density can be worth the premium for systems where storage capacity is limited by available internal drive bays, Serial ATA ports, or both. Those seeking quieter systems should also prefer higher density drives, since the additive properties of noise levels make packing a system with multiple drives less desirable.

    And remember, the Deskstar 7K500 is more than just 500GB of storage capacity. It also has everything one should expect from a high-end drive, including support for 300MB/s Serial ATA transfer rates and Native Command Queuing, a hefty 16MB cache, and a three-year warranty. None of those features go above and beyond the call of duty, but they don't disappoint, either. Neither does the 7K500's performance, for the most part. The Deskstar scores well in desktop application benchmarks and file copy tests, but slow boot times and a poor showing in three of four IOMeter test patterns make it difficult to recommend the drive across the board.

    Poor performance with IOMeter's file server, workstation, and database access patterns suggests that the Deskstar is inappropriate for multi-user environments with heavy read and write demands. However, the drive's surprisingly strong showing in the read-dominated web server test pattern shows that the 7K500 can most certainly keep up in select server environments. And there's no doubt that the 7K500 can keep up on the desktop, at least once you get the system booted. That makes it easy to recommend the Deskstar to storage-hungry desktop and home theater PC users looking to add capacity one half-terabyte at a time.

  12. Where do I need to store1/2 a terabyte of data... by Gopal.V · · Score: 3, Informative
    Let me take a wild guess - in my mysql database ?.
    Poor performance with IOMeter's file server, workstation, and database access patterns suggests that the Deskstar is inappropriate for multi-user environments with heavy read and write demands.
    Which excludes this as a DB backing store or CVS server ?.

    I don't need a 500 GB disk for serving static webpages, which are best done with enough RAM to push them all or something like akamai. It's noisy while it's idle and draws power like a hungry hog. I expect that it needs a decent bit of cooling too.

    Lastly this is a 7,2000 RPM disk that costs 320 odd dollars. What do you think ?.
  13. Two partitions by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Funny

    Joe Sixpack?

    He makes two partitions, uses 250GB for his working drive, and then uses ghost to mirror it to the second partition every couple of months. How can you lose?

    What you forgot to ask is how his tech savvy cousin (who also does taxidermy and accounting) makes it faster, larger, and redundant. In that case he makes 7 partitions and uses software to do a raid5 setup over the first 6 partitions, using the last one as parity. 428GB with a perfect, online safety net. Pretty smart, huh?

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    1. Re:Two partitions by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Funny

      Good lord, somebody mod me Funny so all these /. numbnuts get that it was a joke.

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    2. Re:Two partitions by Jeff+Hornby · · Score: 4, Funny

      But how can we mod you funny when, frankly, it wasn't.

      I think I might have a -1, troll sitting around here somehwere. Will that do?

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    3. Re:Two partitions by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Funny

      I can't believe you actually wrote all of that. I can't believe that you wrote all of that, 20 minutes after I child-posted that it was a joke. I was so certain it was blatently ridulous, I decided to omit the smiley.

      Hey, you aren't my brother-in-law, are you? No, of course not...he'd probably still be thinking it was a good idea.

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  14. drive is finally more powerful than my brain by BrentRJones · · Score: 3, Funny

    This drive is finally more powerful than my brain which can store exactly 487 GB of information per lifetime. Wait, did I already post this message??

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  15. How could anyone ever use 500 GB?!?!?! by merreborn · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I thought I'd never fill my new 200 GB drive. When I installed it, my use patterns changed -- I started saving images of all the CDs I frequently used, and hanging on to p2p-acquired files I wouldn't normally. I kept MP3s and (cough) videos around I normally wouldn't have, and started downloading GB after GB every night.

    I had the drive filled in less than a couple of months.

    Also, back when we had 250 MB drives, almost all audio was distibuted as 8khz .wavs, averaging a few hundred KB each.

    When we moved to 2 GB drives, audio was distributed in 128kbps MP3s, averaging around a few MB each -- ten times the drive space, ten times file size.

    With drives in the hundreds of GB, it becomes feasible to store lossless audio -- somewhere on the order of 30 MB/song.

    All in all: as drive space goes up, filesizes, and image/audio/video quality go up. And user behaviors change. As my father used to say: The steady state of disks is full" --- which, as I just learned, he ripped off from Dennis Ritchie, co-author of the definitive book on "C".

  16. Cost per gigabyte is too high by 55555+Manbabies! · · Score: 3, Informative

    Hitach 7K500 - $357 - .71 cents per gigabyte
    Western Digital WD2500KS (250 GB, comparable specs) - $122 - .49 cents per gigabyte

  17. cue the standard HD review flames by Gothmolly · · Score: 5, Funny

    SCSI is better, all your (S|P)ATA users are losers.
    Who can back up all that data?
    Pr0n!
    s/Deskstar/Deathstar
    (Seagate|Maxtor|IBM|Hitachi|LaCie) is better!
    It runs too hot
    It runs too loud
    I have {insert obscure Linux kernel bug} when I install $DISTRO to this drive
    How many Libraries of Congress per hogshead is that?

    Seriously, does anything have anything TRULY insightful to say? (this post doesn't count, since its a meta-post)

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  18. Check your power quality by bigtallmofo · · Score: 4, Informative

    I usually have to replace a hard drive every five to six months

    The culprit might not be shoddy manufacturing but rather power problems within your house. I am not an electrician but when I had one at my house recently he told me my line voltage was 105 volts. In my area, it's supposed to be 120 volts. In researching it, I discovered that most power companies guarantee 113 to 127 volts of power. Going outside of this range leads to premature failure of components and appliances, especially ones that have motors in them (like hard drives).

    Again, I'm not an electrician and I'm sure someone will find something to correct me on but I was informed that when your voltage is too low, things like motors draw more current to compensate which makes them fail sooner.

    It's worth checking with a $19 voltage meter, anyway, especially considering the fix is a free phone call to your power company for a free fix.

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  19. I didn't see the joke, so i'll post it... by MxTxL · · Score: 3, Funny

    So thats what they use in the 6.8GHz 1TB RAM and 2TB HDD Laptop!!

  20. Re:I'd say "normal." by Detritus · · Score: 3, Informative
    A friend used to collect bad drives. He took the printed circuit boards from the crashed drives and installed them on drives with fried electronics. This only works if you can get a bunch of bad drives that are the same make and model.

    If you have the tools and skills, you can replace platters, motors, etc. You can do it without a clean room if your goal is data recovery, not a drive that will last for years.

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  21. Lots of Space by JohnnySlash · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Having read the previous posts about the LaCie drives (multiple drives, one enclosure), I wanted to start a different thread regarding large amounts of drive space: I am a professional video editor, so I drink up drive space like water. Last summer, we were faced with a documentary project that referenced 450 hour long tapes. We turned to a G5 running FinalCut on 8GB ram, and, in the end, 6 of the LaCie Big Disk Extremes (500GB). We armed the G5 with a pair of Firewire 800 cards with three ports a piece, giving each drive it's own connection. Though we were forced to do pretty regular system maintenance (repair permissions, trash caches), the system ran REALLY well. i would do it again with some sort of redundancy (without it - scary, huh?), but we were somewhat limited for time to plan this system. Depending on your job/lifestyle, even 3TB can be too small these days...