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SpaceX Announces Bigger Rocket
bullitB writes "SpaceX, a commercial developer of rocket systems, has announced a new Evolved Expendable Launch Vehicle (EELV) class rocket. Dubbed the Falcon 9, the rocket will be able to launch nearly 25 metric tons into low earth orbit for a mere $78 million. It looks like they have already signed up Bigelow Aerospace for a launch in 2008."
I thought they were supposed to launch their smaller rocket in May? The technology sounds cool (I saw the rocket in the spring actually in LA), but its been oft delayed. I wish we could just see it fly.
If I did my math right ($1500/pound), that means that even individuals could afford to put a tiny satellite in orbit. That could mean a huge increase in the amount of junk orbiting the planet. Given that NASA now has to track even quite small objects; what a nusance for them.
... in a very boring way.
While not grabbing the headlines the way the X-Prize and specifically, Burt Rutan and later Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic did (and do), SpaceX has started to very quietly put togehter what looks like the first credible competition to the entrenched commercial space industry as it now stands.
Even though they have suffered setbacks of late and therefore, haven't launched a rocket to space yet, it looks like they've got all the technology there to do so. They've also got Pentagon contracts, which means that they've got the backing to cut through the red tape.
If SpaceX is successful, it will force Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Arienespace (and to an extent, Russian rocket mfgs) to really rethink their development and pricing strategy.
"So what, they're not manned?" I get your point. But if they can REALLY LAUNCH 25,000kg to space for $78m dollars by the end of the decade, it will mean that suddenly, we'll have a price-competitive launch industry. I'm talking companies undercutting each other price wise, speeding up development of better, bigger rockets, and actually, maybe, being innovative with rocket and satellite development. It could even spark the kind of rapid progress we saw in aviation in the 1910's.
Suddenly, there's competition in space for the first time since the US and Russia in the 1960's.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for passenger spaceflight, but SpaceX is putting together interesting technology at good prices that could spark the kind of 'rapid evolution' that the industry needs, filling an existing market with a much cheaper product. It'll be exciting to see where they go with this new design, and if they can actually pull it off in just a couple years.
Tim
It's time we started getting serious about space exploration and developing an infrastructure to expand. Earth is getting more crowded every year, and while colonization of other worlds may not be a practical answer, industrialization of, say, the Asteroid Belt may provide a lot of resources. Space-based solar power, constructed with the plentiful materials available in space, might help make life down here easier.
Capitalism isn't the answer to everything, but I'm hoping SpaceX, Scaled Composites, and the rest are right that it's the answer to getting a real space development industry going.
Paleotechnologist and connoisseur of pretty shiny things.
25 metric tons...does this mean we are one step closer to start launching our garbage into the sun?
These big rockets have been Elon Musk's goal all along. That's why he didn't use air launch.
Air launching has many advantages: lower atmospheric pressure improves the efficiency of engines, reduces air drag losses, greatly reduces dynamic loads, allowing the use of lighter structures. Perhaps most importantly, air launching can be done over the ocean without expensive range fees - and range delays like SpaceX is currently experiencing.
But air launch does not easily scale to large sizes. For really large rockets you have to launch from the ground.
Elon eventually plans to build a Saturn-V class launcher for for manned missions to Mars. It may seem premature when they haven't launched Falcon 1 yet, but so far they seem to be doing the right things.
Stop worrying about the risks of nuclear power and start worrying about the risks of not using nuclear power.
My wife just expressed interest in a scaled down version of the Falcon 9.
Probably stage A - the smallest and weakest of the bunch. I wouldn't brag about that if I were you.
(For the often-clueless mods, Estes is a model rocket company. Look it up and laugh if you can. It was a joke.)
A company can start selling a package like:
What the world would have been like if this had happened when NASA promised it in the 70s... :-(
(And, yes, we have to start thinking seriously on junk in orbit.)
Karma: Excellent (My Karma? I wish...:-( )
Only $280,000 (roughly) to send someone (200lb) into orbit. Sweet. Now, they couldn't market this to people wanting to go into space since I doubt this covers reentry, but I imagine it could be marketed to people wanting to send other people into low-earth orbit.
I will not lower myself to using a lame-joke sig... dangit!
I will hold my breath until they have a successful Falcon I launch however.
Without really advertising it, when Musk is interviewed about a 'man-rated' version of his rocket, he merely smiles, saying it is in essence already man-rated. Engine-out safety etc.
Of course, there's no capsule designed, but I guess he doesn't (currently) see that as HIS job, he's just aiming towards cheap launchers for commercial market, and the $$$ are to be found in the satellite business, not in manned flights (yet)
But if a third party decides that, yes, lauching paying customers is a viable business-model, all that could change quickly.
20mil being the current price for spacetourists, compared to a rocket that can haul 25000kg to LEO... You can build a BIG manned capsule with that weight budget, so prices would go down markedly.
their problem has been an existing launch manifest at vandenberg. there is a atlas 5 or somesuch in the way. as it has a $bn payload on top, they cannot fly. hence the relocation to the (amusingly) named ronald reagan ABM test facility of kawaljein island.
spacex have done their development right. they are using intelligent designs. they have done an awful lot of testing and simulation. they look to have a chance.
it may seem odd to actually put a commercial payload on an untested rocket, but given that nearly every launch is on virgin equipment it makes sense (discounting ariane 501, for which parts of the payload were dug out of a rainforest and displayed - some instruments were nearly reusable)
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Beavis: "Yeah, yeah. Uh... what?"
Butthead: "I'd like to announce a bigger rocket."
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