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China's Second Manned Space Flight

desert island writes "As if to coincide with Russia's space tourist, Beijing News speculated that China's second manned space launch will occur after the October 1-7 holiday. The spacecraft Shenzhou VI, with two astronauts, will be launched from the Jiuquan Space Launch Center in northwest China's Gansu province and will last 119 hours." From the article: "The mission will differ markedly from China's first manned space voyage, the Shenzhou V, which was a solo flight that lasted 21 hours in October 2003. China's space program is still shrouded in secrecy with little known about events until several days before they happen. However since the success of the first manned flight, authorities have shown a little more transparency."

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  1. Re:How many years after the first asian. by ron_ivi · · Score: 3, Informative

    Oh, and since this article is specifically speaking of China, it's worth mentioning that the first Chinese born astronaut also holds the record for the female who spent the most time in space. (Shannon Lucid, born in China in 1943 was in space in 1979)

  2. Re:Plagiarized? by radicalskeptic · · Score: 5, Informative

    You can find more information in this Wikipedia article. Apparently the general time of the launch has been known for a while, because at the moment the article states a September or October launch (and a different Wikipedia article on the rockets themselves specifically states an October launch).

    By the way, it looks as though it is shaping up to be a very interesting flight

    The crew will change out of their new lighter space suits, conduct scientific experiments, and enter the orbital module. In addition, their menu will be expanded from 30 to 50 courses. A new toilet will also be available.

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    WARNING: If accidentally read, induce vomiting.
  3. 1979 was a bad year for US (wo)manned spaceflight by adnonsense · · Score: 4, Informative

    Her first mission was 1985, she joined NASA in 1978. She was also the Capcom for the most recent mission. See: Shannon Lucid.

  4. Re:First man on the moon.. by todd10k · · Score: 1, Informative

    apollo was tracked by telescopes on it's journey to the moon. there is more than just some guy going "one small step for man..." *begins fashioning a tinfoil hat for zero*

  5. not called astronauts by Dtyst · · Score: 3, Informative

    Chinese (astronauts) are called taikonauts, just as the Russians should be called cosmonauts... I know nobody cares...

  6. Hey~ it is no news by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    Oh~ It is no news. The media in Hong Kong and China reports the launch of Shenzhou VI few months ago, which says:

    - The spaceship will launch in the coming October
    - 2 astronauts will be onboard
    - 3 pairs of astronauts will be chosen for final stage training, and the authority will pick 1 pair before launch to carry our the mission
    - Team work ability is an important criteria during the astronauts selection process
    - The ship will fly for 5 days, five times more than Shenzhou V, and the authority claims that the stability and reliability of the ship has been improved.
    - The carrying rocket is CZ-2F (Long March 2F), same as the one for Shenzhou V
    - No spacewalk (will do it during the 3rd manned spaceflight, which is scheduled for 2007)
    - The astronauts are allowed to take off their spacesuits when the ship is in orbit, which is different from the arrangement for Shenzhou V's astronaut.
    - The astronauts will enter the "Orbit Module" and carry out experiments during the journey
    - One of the experiments is to test the response of pig's sperms under space radiation
    - Many delicious Chinese traditional food will be packed as space food for the astronauts, which will include spicy chicken, preserved vegetables, and assorted beans and rice

    Source:

    hk.news.yahoo.com
    military.china.com
    www.people.com.cn

  7. Enough with it. by slasho81 · · Score: 4, Informative
    From Wikipedia:
    Taikonaut is sometimes used in English for astronauts from China by Western news media. The term was coined in May 1998 by Chiew Lee Yih from Malaysia, who used it first in newsgroups. Almost simultaneously, Chen Lan coined it for use in the Western media based on the term taikong, Chinese for space. In Chinese itself, however, a single term yuhang yuan ("universe navigator") has long been used for astronauts and cosmonauts. The closest term using taikong is a colloquialism taikong ren ("space human") which refers to people who have actually been in space. Official English text issued by the Chinese government uses astronaut.
  8. Re:Peaceful China or expansionist totalitarian bul by Sattwic · · Score: 1, Informative

    >Almost never invaded any neighbours, instead, attracts its neighbors with more advance culture and economy. Thats debatable, given the fact that China is flexing its muscles against Taiwan, fought numerous wars with Vietnam with an aim to overtake it, invaded Mongolia innumerable times, also Thailand, invaded India and still holds on to Indian territory in Aksai Chin.. the list goes on.. Actually, there isn't a single Asian neighbour China hasn't gone to war with. It has always been a big bully in the region and will remain as such. >Tibet has been part of China more than at least 300 years ago in Qing Dynasty What kind of logic is that? The British held India for more than 100 years.. does that give Britian a right to invade India and take possession of it again?? >In fact Tibet is one among over 30 provinces that accepts most fund from the central government Funds for exactly what? Funds for Han Chinese to build factories and cities on Tibetian lands and colonise them? Can't exactly see Tibetians benefiting from all those funds you advertise!!

  9. Re:Peaceful China or expansionist totalitarian bul by Sattwic · · Score: 3, Informative

    Let me prick your typical commie Chinese propaganda bubble please!

    >> Tibet has been part of China more than at least 300 years ago in Qing Dynasty

    India was part of the British Empire for > 200 years (starting from the time when British East India Company victory at Plassey in 1757 to Indian independence in 1947)

    That does NOT give Britian any right to invade India again and capture it..

    The Chinese Communist Propaganda machine uniquely and illogically takes advantage of an earlier colonisation of Tibet to justify a more recent and brutal one.
    It was plain invasion and no amount of whitewashing will do away the stink.

    >> China in its long history proved to be a peaceful country. Almost never invaded any neighbours, instead, attracts its neighbors with more advance culture and economy.

    Wow, more propaganda!

    just a few invasions of china are here.. rest can be mightly googled!
      http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/f ebruary/17/newsid_2547000/2547811.stm

    1979: China invades Vietnam
    China has sent hundreds of troops into Vietnam after weeks of tension and a military build-up along the border.


    http://www.2neatmagazines.com/life/1962cover.html

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/india/timeline.h tml

    16 Nov 1962 China invades India
    After a short war India loses territory in the northwestern state of Jammu and Kashmir.

    China still holds to occupied lands of Indian Territory in Aksai Chin.

    China today threatens to invade Taiwan.

    What do you want to say, China became such a large country through non-violent and peaceful means? Nay, it was through continous invasions and extermination of other nationalities that today China is predominantly and uniformly of the HAN population.. what happened to other ethnic communities of that region?

    China is a bully of the region and will always remain as such.

    >> is one among over 30 provinces that accepts most fund from the central government

    Yeah, those funds are for Han Chinese to build factories and colonise the Tibetian Land.
    Do the Tibetians profit from the money flow? Hell no.

    >>Today's tibet are not oppressed by any one
    When ordinary Chinese students were massacred by the Authoritative Govt. in Tiammen Sq.. what about the fate of the colonised people, one can very well guess.

  10. Re:Peaceful China or expansionist totalitarian bul by Anonymous+Bullard · · Score: 3, Informative
    No one is troubled by the "centralized" nature of China in itself; all nations, pre-invasion Tibet naturally included, have their own forms of central government. It's when an expansionist nation begins swallowing up other nations when the flag of an imperial aggression goes up. Or was Imperial Japan within its rights to invade China after all? No, of course not! The Chinese people are different from the Japanese in language, culture, script, ethnicity etc. (just like Tibetans are different from the Chinese!) and naturally deserve to determine their own national affairs without foreign annexations or aggressions.

    Where were China's borders during the rule of Qin kingdom? Exactly, they were around the territory that belonged to his subjects, the (Han) Chinese people.

    What happened to the peoples living outside those borders of the original Chinese homeland? How many wars did it take over the centuries to turn those former neighbors into minorities under Han Chinese rule?

    Now, if you knew about Tibet's actual history, instead of the neo-imperialist propaganda conjured up by China's current dictators, you'd realize that only in 1950 Tibet lost its national self-determination, thanks to Mao's invading communist army. China's past god-kings have always made silly claims of ownership of foreign lands, and especially China's neighbors, but like Korea, Mongolia, Vietnam, India etc. etc. Tibet was de facto independent before the communist invasion. Heck, there are even some brave Chinese historians who understand this, but thanks to the CCP's imperial agenda the Chinese people only get to ever hear about the make-believe propaganda version.

    The claim that Tibet was somehow even nominally under a Chinese despot's rule some 300 years ago -- a time of imperialism before the birth of a modern nation state -- and that nominal imperial rule should somehow translate into an acceptable modern-day occupation of one's peaceful neighbors is a violent and anachronistic claim indeed.

    Why do you, as a Chinese invidual, feel the need to accept and publically support the occupation of your neighboring peoples?

    Don't just take my word for it. Grow a conscience and check out even one of the uncountable videos about the tortured Tibetans who managed to escape into exile from the police state that is occupied Tibet. Talk to some of the thousands of Tibetans who escape from their own land every year (because those still under occupation are too afraid to talk, especially to the Chinese) and then come back to defend China's ongoing military occupation of Tibet.

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    Should invading one's peaceful neighbours be opposed, or rewarded with trade deals?

  11. Re:Peaceful China or expansionist totalitarian bul by Gulthek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Tibet? Peaceful? Ha! :-)

    You should read about their history before Buddhism came in. No its not recent (Buddhism was introduced hundreds of years ago.), but it's just funny to me that one of the most martial cultural groups are now considered one of the most peaceful.

    Anyhoo:

    If you know about Tibet's actual history then you know that the Tibetan peasantry were dominated by the ruling Buddhist priest class. Sure it's all well and good to give up everything for the religion if thats what you want, but if you didn't then there wasn't anything you could do about it.

    Nowadays many peasant farmers have a picture of Mao next to a picture of the Dalai Lama because "The Lama grants me heaven (in English, somewhat different concept in Tibetan) and Mao gave me land."

    Yes I've studied Tibetan history specifically.

    If you want to get irate over the absorbtion of differing cultures by what we now call China then you have your work cut out. There are no less than eight languages spoken in China, and dozens of dialects --- the only thing that nominally holds these languages together is that the use the same writing system.

    Emperor Qin unified a great number of disparate people, not just the Han. Sure they were Han when he was through with them, but not necessarily before. That map is also overly simplistic, wikipedia's article isn't perfect but its decent enough to start with: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Dynasty

    You just have to face the fact that China is an alien culture. Yes their human rights abuses need to stop, but if you compare US in the early 1900s when the pace of modernization was wreaking all sorts of social havok with that of modern day China which experienced and is experiencing similar growing pains; China has done a great deal better. Compare Native Americans to Tibetans. Unless you argue that we should return all land stolen from the them by the early Americans (which is a valid argument from a human rights standpoint) then you cannot speak too loudly about the Chinese encroachment into Tibet.

    The native Tibetan people get to own their land. They haven't been moved to reservations. Their economy is almost 100% subsidized by the Beijing government. In short, many Tibetans are better off now than they were before 1949.