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Ars Technica's iPod nano Dissection

starwindsurfer wrote to mention an Ars Technica review of the iPod nano in which they autopsy the cute little guy to find out what makes him tick. A more thorough review than the one we ran last week. From the article: "At this point we were astounded that the iPod nano was still working properly, albeit with a broken display. Because we had honestly expected the iPod nano to break by this time, we were forced to depart from our planned schedule of destruction and try and run over it with the car. Surely, we thought, it could never withstand the crushing power of German automotive engineering." Update: 09/12 14:58 GMT by Z : Changed linking words to previous article for clarity. Monday fuzziness.

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  1. What apple should do now by Data+Link+Layer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Size of the iPod never really mattered to me, the 30 GB photo is small enough. What they should consentrate on is making it scratch proof, I can't stand so many scratches. Cases do not work so well, they still scratch and add lots of bulk.

    1. Re:What apple should do now by big_groo · · Score: 5, Interesting
      I have scratch proof lenses in my glasses.

      They're scratched, btw. In case you were wondering.

    2. Re:What apple should do now by mblase · · Score: 5, Funny

      What they should consentrate on is making it scratch proof, I can't stand so many scratches. Cases do not work so well, they still scratch and add lots of bulk.

      Small, rugged, scratchproof: pick any two?

      Tell you what: if you buy an itty-bitty iPod nano and still think it's too bulky after adding a sleeve around it, I will personally come to your house and sew bigger pockets onto all your clothes.

    3. Re:What apple should do now by op12 · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tell you what: if you buy an itty-bitty iPod nano and still think it's too bulky after adding a sleeve around it, I will personally come to your house and sew bigger pockets onto all your clothes.

      I added the sleeve and it's still too bulky. I'll be expecting you at my house at 8am sharp tomorrow.

    4. Re:What apple should do now by MindStalker · · Score: 5, Interesting

      firewire (assuming thats what you meant by fw) is the choice for digital video tranfer on apple. Apple has a lot invested in being the digital video editing platform of choice. There is no way they are going to give up on firewire. For connections to random devices that don't need the speeds of firewire, and benifit from PC connectivity, USB is the obvious choice.

    5. Re:What apple should do now by RapmasterT · · Score: 4, Funny
      What they should consentrate on is making it scratch proof, I can't stand so many scratches.
      They should make the case of aluminum and hard annodize it, that would be pretty much scratchproof.


      Hell, I discovered with my calphalon cookware that if you hard annodize aluminum, and then stir-fry zucchini in it, you'll end up with an indestructable and permanent coating that could protect space shuttles during re-entry. Who the F*CK thought non-nonstick cookware was a good idea ???? :-(

    6. Re:What apple should do now by mjpaci · · Score: 5, Funny

      Wrap it in plastic wrap* -- it's cheap and you can buy it anywhere!

      * I high-school intern we had last summer wrapped his 20GB iPod in plastic wrap. When I asked him why, he said, "Because I'm Chinese. We wrap everything in plastic wrap. You should see the remote controls..." Flabergasted, I looked over at another intern, also Chinese, who was nodding in agreement. I thought nothing of it, ok that's a lie, until I went into the local Chinese take-out place the other day and saw their cash register wrapped in Saran-wrap.

    7. Re:What apple should do now by qray · · Score: 4, Funny

      Remember to take off your diamond wedding ring when you go to rub your eyes.

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    8. Re:What apple should do now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
      "...Because I'm Chinese. We wrap everything in plastic wrap..."
      This is true; I went out with a lady from Beijing last year, and her idea of birth control... well...

      Little wonder that China has such a large population.
    9. Re:What apple should do now by idlake · · Score: 4, Funny

      I high-school intern

      You Chinese too?

    10. Re:What apple should do now by fshalor · · Score: 5, Informative

      You can buy some stuff called "Moly Coat" from grainger and other places. It's a spray on coating used on gears in teletypes in the 70's to keep them from wearing out. I've been using it on maglight lenses and some optics stuff to keep things from scratching.

      About $10/can, but it'll stop those scratches on the metal. I've used it on laptops more resently and seems to really help.

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    11. Re:What apple should do now by grahams · · Score: 4, Funny
      Remember to take off your diamond wedding ring when you go to rub your eyes.
      Slashdot readers do not have such problems.
  2. So does nano... by furiousx · · Score: 5, Funny

    also refer to the outstanding battery life?

  3. Geeks are like apes by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seriously, I find it funny how as soon as we get some new piece of technology our first instinct is to break it. Honestly think about it. I can't tell you how many things I can't wait to take apart as soon as I buy it. There has to be somehting unhealthy about this.

    Give somehting new and unknown to a bunch of apes and the first thing they do is smash it or rip it apart inquisitively.

    Guess we ain't so superior after all. :)

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    1. Re:Geeks are like apes by thc69 · · Score: 4, Funny

      That's what makes us so superior. If I hadn't taken schitt apart when I was a little geekling, I would never have blossomed into the well rounded geek I am today. Hell, now I can even put stuff back together!

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    2. Re:Geeks are like apes by op12 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Give somehting new and unknown to a bunch of apes and the first thing they do is smash it or rip it apart inquisitively.

      Guess we ain't so superior after all. :)


      But now we can also run things over with cars...so clearly we've evolved. No more pounding on it with large rocks.

    3. Re:Geeks are like apes by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 4, Funny

      Yeah, RUNNING SHIT OVER WITH A CAR helps us understand a whole bunch of new things that otherwise would have gone unknown. Damn am I dumb, how could I have overlooked that!

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  4. Apple Product Lifecycle by Chibi+Merrow · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Article on the new iGadget being a failure? Check.
    Apple g33k pr0n? Check.

    Wow, this guy really DOES have Apple pegged... I mean, at first it was funny, but now it's just creepy...

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  5. Dead Cat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you open up a cat to see how it works, the first thing you have is a non-working cat.

    1. Re:Dead Cat by inkdesign · · Score: 4, Funny

      He's still alive in the other universe where you're not a sicko..

  6. Where's the FM tuner??? by StarvingSE · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What I don't understand is why, oh why hasn't apple incorporated an FM tuner into their iPod line yet?? Creative and iRiver have it on their models, it can't be that hard to implement. They are priced competitively as well so i can't be a cost issue.

    Seriously, for me the downside of the Nano is the lack of FM tuner. Mp3's are great, but sometimes you just want to listen to radio.

    I have been looking at getting an mp3 player for quite some time, and I thought the Nano was going to be my thing. But I will probably just wait until iRiver comes out with their clone with the FM tuner on it.

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    1. Re:Where's the FM tuner??? by mrgreen4242 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, personally, I don't want to listen to the radio, ever. That's why I have an iPod. I used to listen to the radio for NPR shows, but with most of the "good stuff" from NPR being available as podcasts, well, my car radio stays on "Aux Input" all the time now, and I don't own another radio reciever at all.

      I think Apple intentionally doesn't include an FM tuner on purpose, as they are theying to replace radio, not just replace CD players, with the iPod. They're doing a good job of it, too.

    2. Re:Where's the FM tuner??? by jwinter1 · · Score: 5, Informative
      with most of the "good stuff" from NPR being available as podcasts

      Are you crazy? NPR has given up almost none of its best shows to podcasting. This American Life, Car Talk, What Do You Know?, Morning/Weekend Edition, All Things Considered, and pretty much any other of their big shows aren't podcast. There's actually very few good NPR shows available through podcasting.
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    3. Re:Where's the FM tuner??? by Ruprecht+the+Monkeyb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      That's nice for you, but there are those of us that like to listen to the radio, whether its sports shows or whatever. Plus, the gym turns down the volume on the TV sets and simulcasts the audio on short-range radio so those that want to watch the news while they work out can do so without disturbing others. An FM tuner is a requirement for a lot of people I know.

    4. Re:Where's the FM tuner??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Here's your NPR podcast:

      This script records your podcast. Call it record_NPR.sh
      =================
      #!/bin/bash

      PREFIX=$1
      NAME=$2
      LENGTH=$3

      if [ -z "$3" ] ; then
            echo "Usage: record_NPR.sh "
            exit
      fi

      FILE_DATE=`date`
      FILE_NAME=`date '+%Y-%m-%d_%H-%M.mp3'`
      FILE_NAME="${PREFIX}_${FILE_NAME}"

      cd /tmp/NPR
      wget -nv -O $FILE_NAME http://edtv.opb.org:8000/radio.mp3 > /dev/null 2>&1 &
      WPID=$!
      sleep $LENGTH; kill $WPID
      sleep 3
      tagmp3 set "%A:${NAME} %a:NPR Records" $FILE_NAME
      #update_RSS.pl "$PREFIX" "$FILE_NAME" "$FILE_DATE" "$NAME"
      echo "$NAME was recorded"
      ===================

      Stick it in your crontab, and you are done:
      ===================
      0 11 * * 5 /user/joechmo/bin/record_NPR.sh SFR "Science Friday" 2h
      0 15 * * 6 /user/joechmo/bin/record_NPR.sh PHC "Prarie Home Companion" 2h
      0 10 * * 6 /user/joechmo/bin/record_NPR.sh CTK "Car Talk" 1h
      ======================

  7. You killed Ars! You bastards! by Guano_Jim · · Score: 4, Informative

    Server's running slow with less than 60 comments, so:

    Coralized page 1

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  8. Zonk's article linking... by mattyohe · · Score: 4, Funny

    That was a bit confusing on a Monday morning... You linked the words "more thorough review" to point to the less thorough review.

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  9. Bad Selection of stress tests by CheddarHead · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Their choices for stress tests were less than ideal. I'm never going to drop my ipod out of a moving car. What would have been good was some tests that would tend to bend the ipod rather than just impact tests. Instead of just sitting on it, put it in the back pocket of some tight jeans and sit down. For that matter, putting it in the coin pocket of some tight jeans and sitting down seems like it would put some stress on it.

    1. Re:Bad Selection of stress tests by Queer+Boy · · Score: 4, Informative
      For that matter, putting it in the coin pocket of some tight jeans

      Is that an iPod in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

      As an aside, that's not a coin pocket, Levi Strauss designed it for matches when he created the jean for miners to keep the matches dry.

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  10. Funny this should come up... by Schezar · · Score: 4, Funny

    Just the other day, I was planning a mountain biking excursion with my flatemate. He'd never been mountain biking before, and he somehow got it into his head that bringing his Ipod Mini would be a good idea.

    I tried to convince him that he would break it via collision with rocks or maybe a tree. He claimed that it was a very durable piece of hardware.

    To demonstrate, he dropped it to the carpeted floor and bopped it with his foot...

    The display shattered.

    I think I laughed for a good half-hour. I felt bad about it, but there's nothing you can do but laugh when something so perfectly comedically timed happens.

    It wasn't all bad. He just used this as an excuse to buy the new Nano.

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  11. Systm by AngryScot · · Score: 4, Informative

    subSystm has a video if the inside of the nano for anyone who is interested
    subSystm is a short version of the full episode Systm

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  12. How to Kill an iPod nano... by kuwan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article should really be entitled How to Kill an iPod nano as I think that's the real purpose of the article. It must be fun to buy the latest gadget and then find creative ways to destroy it.

    Basically the final cause of death for the iPod was to throw it up in the air as high as possible, about 40 feet, and then let it smack down on the concrete. That was the final nail in the coffin after dropping it from 9 ft., dropping it multiple times from a speeding car (10 MPH to 50 MPH) and running over it twice. Pretty durable for a little music player.

    1. Re:How to Kill an iPod nano... by DingerX · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Nah, they're playing to a solid-state, no-moving-part gizmo's strengths. Hell, on my cheap mobile phone (Motorola V171) I once was troubleshooting what ended up being poor interface design (if the PIN is entered within the first 30 seconds of the "Enter PIN" message appearing, the thing would accept it, start up, wait 10 seconds, find no network, reboot and ask for the PIN again). I had gotten to the point in the troubleshooting tree that reads:
      14) Throw phone out of Fifth-story window

      Darn thing didn't even scratch.

      I dunno about the nano, but if it's anything like similarly-shaped solid state consumer electronic devices, the weak spot is gonna be sustained torque. Take that thing, and put it in a vice to simulate supertight pants. Apply sustained forces for long periods and see if the case deforms, loosening a critical connection. Put it in one of those paint-shakers for a couple hours to simulate it being worn by a pogo-mad punkrockers.

      Blunt trauma kills, but most of my devices die from "a long illness".

  13. Forget the Nano ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    --> we were forced to depart from our planned schedule of destruction and try and run over it with the car. Surely, we thought, it could never withstand the crushing power of German automotive engineering --

    Will you please please run a review on my Mother-In-Law ??? Gratitudes in advance.

  14. Nerds by z0l0pht · · Score: 5, Funny

    "For our second test, one of us held on to the iPod, jogged about 20 feet" ...which is the average distance a nerd can jog

  15. Why bother with music? by Alcimedes · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Honestly, seeing as these are $100 cheaper than the next flash alternative I could find, I'm tempted to just pick up two as boot devices.

    One for my Windows machines at work, one for my Macs.

    You'd use up about 1GB for the OS, then have 3+GB free for data extraction. Throw a bunch of diagnostic utilities on there (usually a hundred megs or so at most) and you've got a kick ass clean system to test hardware with when you're troubleshooting. And since its got a batter of its own, it's not reliant on having a powered USB port.

  16. Re:Inquisitiveness Gooooood by rAiNsT0rm · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, basically, to sum it up. We've created a whole bunch of advanced shit to take apart and more advanced shit to *use* to take the advanced shit apart... all while being comfortable.

    Man, we sure have come a long way! :)

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  17. Re:Firewire compatibility... by djdavetrouble · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because regular iPods support Firewire 800, which all Power Macs also support, and which trumps USB 2.0's bandwidth by a healthy margin.

    riiiiight... because we all know that those leetle teeny hard drives are soooooo fast, much much faster than the data rate of a regular old firewire 400 connection.

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  18. I liked the review by dogfriend · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My reason for buying a nano was to get a flash based iPod so I could take it skiing. I have taken my 20Gb 3G iPod skiing several times, but I was always concerned about scrambling the hard drive in a badly timed fall. Also, the battery life was not good enough at low temps to last a full day of skiing. The nano should be perfect for skiing, and the Ars Technica review seems to confirm its durability.

  19. Re:Summary by ifwm · · Score: 4, Funny

    "It is too small"

    What kind of complaint is this?

    "I can't believe how small this thing that's supposed to be small is. Can you believe they actually made this small thing so small?"

    Next you'll be comlpaining about Ferraris

    "I can't believe how fast this thing is. Why would they want to make a car that's supposed to be fast this fast? Stupid Ferrari..."

  20. Re:Firewire compatibility... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Watch CPU usage too.

    Oh, and move your mouse around while doing the transfer ;-)

    Hope you don't have USB speakers attached as well.

    USB is a shared medium, and has some pretty neat traffic handling, but its still shared. Firewire is designed to be a dedicated host-to-host high-bandwidth data transfer medium.

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  21. Re:Firewire compatibility... by MikeBabcock · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I've replied elsewhere in this thread as well about USB and Firewire, but consider looking at Tom's Hardware's review of FW vs. USB for data transfer as well (FW trumps USB, not the other way around).

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  22. Re:Firewire compatibility... by sidb · · Score: 5, Informative

    No iPod supports FireWire 800.

    The ones with FireWire use FireWire 400, which is compatible with a FW 800 port the same way a USB 1.1 device is compatible with a USB 2 port, although in the case of FireWire you need an adapter cable to make the connection because the FW 800 port adds two extra pins.

    Here's Apple's page confirming that the current full-size iPod has FW 400, not 800: http://www.apple.com/ipod/color/specs.html

  23. Re:How to buff out the scratches? by ciurana · · Score: 4, Informative

    Greetings,

    A few years ago I learned a trick from my local Swatch store. I had scratched the face of a watch given to me as a gift; a keeper mainly for its sentimental value. The face had several scratches, some looked deep. I steeled myself to pay $50 to replace the watch's face (an $80 watch) and headed to the store.

    The clerk was very helpful and passed on one of the best tips ever: Put some toothpaste on the polycarbonate surface, rub softly with your fingers, and wipe off with a moist cotton pad or paper towel. Scratches be gone! I've used that trick on mobile phone screens as well, with excellent results.

    I hope that helps,

    E

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  24. SciFri Podcast by cbquist · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not so - all of SciFri is podcast each week. They do cut the program into 2-6 segments though depending on how many topics they're covering - so you have to make sure you get all the parts.

  25. ANCIENT WISDOM by phriedom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As the Old Wise labrats say: if you want to reduce the reliability of something, add a connector, if it is still too reliable, add sockets.

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  26. Sound quality better than Fullsize/Mini? by Judge_Fire · · Score: 5, Informative


    The article incorrectly states that the sound quality is the same across the iPod line.

    This test and actually, just comparing by the ear, shows interesting results from a number of players:

    http://home.comcast.net/~machrone/playertest/playe rtest.htm

    J

  27. Plastic wrap by ameline · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's true

    I once knew a guy (who is Korean) who wrapped his remotes in plastic wrap. I thoughtfully took out the batteries and similarly protected them (being careful to cover the terminals too :-), and put them back in the remotes.

    I wish I could have seen his face when he found it. (He probably didn't think it was funny.)

    Charles? Are you reading this? It was me -- I did it.

    Back on topic -- The one thing I don't like about my ipod is its propensity to collect scratches. Could they not have used a more scratch resisant material? I guess not.

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