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Making Ice Without Electricity

j-beda writes "Time Magazine is running an article telling us how Dave Williams is trying to make ice for third-world applications using the Hilsch-Ranque vortex-tube effect (first developed in 1930 by G.J. Ranque), where swirling air is split into hot and cold components." The method is horribly inefficient but Williams is hoping it could yield helpful results in areas where electricity is really not an option.

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  1. Re:Why not gas absorption? by MajorDick · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My mothers house has 2 ammonia Air Conditioning units built in the mid to late 40's they were "Overage" for a bank and made their way into my grandfathers new home, since it is a hot water heated house its great, let me tell you these things will even chill the upstairs of the house , at 2000 ish square feet to push cold up is not a bad trick, the volume they output is the key.

    The funny part ? They still work flawlessly, and have not been serviced since at least 1977 ( In know this for a fact as thats when my grandad passed away)

    Their electric consumption is actually minimal, running both all month equates to about a 60$ electricity increase. Unreal if you ask me, I kept thinking we were on an electric budget the first summer I fired em up in 20 years as it was way to hot for my grandma without air so I told her I would cover the bill. it never went up....

    The beauty is these units will spill the ammonia outsie through the exhaust should the coils ever rupture (I doubt it since they are about 1/8 in thick copper :) Designed well, and built like German tanks...

  2. Re:Hrm. by stienman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The ancient egyptians did the same. In the desert.

    If you build a solar reflector, but only employ it at night the items inside will become cold, and can attain temperatures below freezing.

    Doesn't work as well on cloudy nights (you are essentially 'beaming' the heat out into the great heatsink called space) and it has to be well insulated from the environment around it (ground, air, etc).

    -Adam

  3. Re:I read TFA, and... by Lumpy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and let's ignore that it's worthless.

    I make ice and keep things cold EVERY time I go camping without electricity. in fact I make a fire to make things cold.

    that type of freezer/fridge has been around for decades and are pretty efficient now compared to electric units.

    I use maybe 10 pounds of Propane to run my RV fridge for 3 months straight.

    I'm all for inventing new ways of doing it, but to "help the poor in africa" is not the way to try out new stuff.

    give them a fridge with a coil plate they can build a fire under or will allow an oil lamp burner to keep it running (yes this works) and use that old tech that simply works.

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  4. Re:Hrm. by Sheriff+Fatman · · Score: 4, Interesting

    You jest, but truth is stranger than fiction...

    During the first half of the nineteenth century, an enterprising Boston chap by name of Frederic Tudor made his name - and his fortune -harvesting enormous chunks of ice from frozen lakes in Massachusetts, packing them into sailing ships insulated with sawdust (supplied by the Maine timber-mills), and exporting them around the world. By the time artificial refrigeration marked the end the "frozen water trade" in the mid 1800s, they were sending 100-ton shipments of ice as far afield as the Caribbean and Calcutta.

    The whole story is told in Gavin Weightman's The Frozen Water Trade, if you want to know more.

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