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MS Upgrades To Be Smaller And More Frequent

duplicantk8 writes "Following the numerous delays to the Vista launch, MS is planning to have more frequent and smaller incremental upgrades, according to the Financial Times." From the article: "Those delays are set to end late next year with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95. The new versions of the company's key PC software are likely to rekindle higher growth after a period that saw its growth rate slip below 10 per cent for the first time last year, according to Wall Street analysts. Mr Ballmer's comments are the most public sign yet of the dent to Microsoft's confidence in its core development process that resulted from the Vista delays."

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  1. Re:scratching head by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No, this is an attempt to make you *pay* for Service Packs.

    2008: Upgrade to Windows Vista version 2.0 for only $200!
    2009: Upgrade to Windows Vista version 3.0 for only $225!
    2010: Upgrade to Windows Vista version 4.0 for only $275!
    2011: Upgrade to Windows Vista version 4.0 for only $350!
    2012: Upgrade to Windows Vista version 5.0 for only $1000!

  2. Beleaguered by sg3000 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember the 1997 buzzword "beleaguered"?

    Does anyone else remember in the mid 1990s when Apple announced the same thing? It was around 1996, and Apple was finding it impossible to get its next generation Copland/Mac OS 8 operating system out the door. I think it was then-CEO Gil Amelio who announced after several years of delays that Apple wasn't going to do monolithic releases any longer. They would do little ones to be more manageable. Eventually, they came out with Mac OS 7.6, Mac OS 8 (what many considered to be 7.7), and Mac OS 9. That's also when they started shopping around, looking at Be and NeXT.

    As Apple discovered--and now, I guess Microsoft is discovering the same thing-- it's really hard to keep backwards compatibility, drive new features, and do it within a reasonable budget when you have a big installed base. Apple's installed base was never more than a small fraction of Microsoft's, but Microsoft's resources were also proportionately more extensive.

    Microsoft is having as many (or more) delays with Longhorn/Vista as Apple had with Copland/Mac OS 8. In the mean time, Apple bit the bullet with NeXT/Mac OS X back in 1997, and now they're seeing some pretty good returns on their investment. Releases have been fairly rapid, and they've introduced lots of innovative features.

    So as far as coming up with their next OS, Microsoft, you can use the word now. Apple doesn't need it any more.

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  3. Re:It won't help by theantipop · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It has yet to hurt Apple. I don't see the difference between the proposed schedule and what OSX has doing for years.

  4. NOT FUNNY!! Re:Reboots by putko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's not funny.

    I think the folks who suffer with Windows are used to rebooting for all sorts of reasons. E.g. IE runs too slow, my app just crashed, I need to install a new program, something is not working, ...

    Due to their inability to admin their own machine, some resort to throwing it out and trying again, with new hardware.

    I think it is the Unix admins who have the fetish for the no-reboot. Or perhaps a single, precisely done reboot, to remotely bring up a machine with an entirely new OS.

    Similary, folks who use windows think they need anti-spyware, anti-virus, extra-special firewall crap --- because they think there's no way a computer can withstand the tide of crap without extra-special help. It is just impossible to imagine that an OS could withstand it all.

    Lately it seems that hardware companies are in the game -- e.g. Intel processors with features designed to make up for the deficiencies of Ballmer's bunch in Redmond.

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  5. Just last night . . . by PIPBoy3000 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I updated several of my devices without a reboot. Those sort of patches seem rare, and likely for good reason.

    The catch is that if you need to patch a critical system file, it's orders of magnitude more simple to just replace it upon reboot (since nothing's running). Otherwise you need to close down any applications and services that are using that file. Some system files are used by the GUI interface itself, at which point you're crossing your fingers and hoping it pops back to reality during the patch process.

    It's probably technically possible to do certain patches without rebooting, but you'd have to have a savvy enough user to shut down and bring back dependent services. Linux admins are used to that sort of thing. For home users, it's far easier to simply reboot.

    1. Re:Just last night . . . by Atzanteol · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not locking files is good. Always. Under all bloody circumstances as far as I can tell.

      Raise your hands all who have wasted an hour trying to delete a directory that was in use can couldn't find the magic program that was using it? How many wish they had "lsof" under windows?

      And nothing like deleting a large directory only to have it come back with "Could not delete, destination file is in use". Which file? Go figure it out yourself. The system doesn't care enough to tell you...

      Sorry. Bit of a rant there. But running into the silly Windows file locking over and over again has made me pretty bitter on the subject. :-)

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  6. Deja Vu? by theolein · · Score: 4, Insightful

    2005: with the simultaneous launch of new versions of Windows and the Office suite of PC applications in the company's most significant new product cycle since Windows 95

    IIRC, wasn't almost the very same sentence used in 2001 prior to the launch of Windows XP?

  7. Translation by Anita+Coney · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Smaller and more frequent also means less expensive and yearly. Which basically means that Microsoft is moving to the subscription model it always wanted. Windows users will pay a "small amount" e.g., 20 bucks, every year for minor and insignificant updates. In other words, we'll be paying for what we now get for free.

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