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Nintendo Takes To The Airwaves

Eurogamer has a look at some new information about the Revolution's wireless presence. From the article: "Iwata confirmed that consumers will not be required to pay any monthly fees to play first party titles - the only costs incurred will be the price of games and the user's own Internet connection. He said that Nintendo has worked hard to design a system which is secure and protected from the kind of abuse that can come from anonymity. A Nintendo-branded USB Wi-Fi access point will appear on the shelves along side the first Wi-Fi enabled game for use by gamers who don't have a wireless Internet connection already set up - which would suggest that third party wireless access points can also be used." Update: 09/20 20:47 GMT by Z : Edited for clarity.

34 comments

  1. Genius! by Enjoi · · Score: 0, Interesting

    This is exacly why nintendo make great games. They think more about making everyone have a good experience than the games.

    1. Re:Genius! by Enjoi · · Score: 2

      Shit, I mean the money, not the games. (This is exacly why nintendo make great games. They think more about making everyone have a good experience than the money.)

    2. Re:Genius! by nmaster64 · · Score: 1
      lol, I thought that didn't sound right...

      "They think more about making everyone have a good experience than the games."

      If they could pull off making everyone happy without even making a game, they really would be the best!

    3. Re:Genius! by Soul-Burn666 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Yet wtf, they make more profit than Sony and Microsoft as it is!

      The GC netted Nintendo 1bn$ in profit. The PS2 netted Sony 600m$ in profit and the XBox netted Microsoft a loss of 400m$.

      But that's because Nintendo HAVE to show a profit since it's their only product, while Sony and Microsoft have many other products.

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  2. Misleading title/summary by bartyboy · · Score: 5, Informative
    The article is about the DS, not the Revolution:
    Speaking at the Tokyo Game Show, Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has revealed more details of the company's plans to promote wireless gaming for the Nintendo DS.

    Hopefully the Revolution online service will also be free for first party titles.

  3. Please spell the man's name right? by Killjoy_NL · · Score: 1

    Zonk, as a proofreader/editor for the games section, you should at least see easy little typos in the first name of the blurb.

    If I'm not mistaken, the man is called Iwata, not wata.

    Show a little respect, come on :/

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  4. No voice on DS by Phantasmo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    So the DS' first-party titles will not have any kind of voice chat. That's fine with me - otherwise Nintendo would have to moderate every voice message to check for inappropriate language.
    Perhaps 3rd-party developers will allow unmoderated voice. If the game is rated M then who has the right to complain?
    However, I certainly hope that Nintendo creates some kind of headset for the Revolution. Playing with other people is nice but how are you going to coordinate strategy or hurl insults?

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    1. Re:No voice on DS by Gogo0 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Well that sucks, I was really looking forward to screaming at my old college friends over Mario Kart DS. Oh well, not a huge loss.

      Here is hoping to an online Bomberman DS with voice chat =]

    2. Re:No voice on DS by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

      If the game is rated M then who has the right to complain?

      This is the same as saying "since you play fighting games, you have no right to complain when I punch you in the face". It doesn't follow.

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    3. Re:No voice on DS by Carlbunn · · Score: 1

      Actually, its the same as saying "Since you bought a game rated for mature people, you have no right to complain about foul language". Have a little sense on your analogies

    4. Re:No voice on DS by xgamer04 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually, its the same as saying "Since you bought a game rated for mature people, you have no right to complain about foul language".

      Yes, that's what it's literally saying. I'm taking the analogy and extending to an absurd extreme, which shows its flaw.

      Here's another statement analogous to the OP: If I watch a movie that deals with hate crimes, do I lose my right to be offended by hate crimes? Of course not! The fact that one uses or experiences media that deals with a certain subject or content does not mean that they endorse or approve of that subject or content. It also does not mean that a person loses the "right" to complain or have a certain viewpoint about the subject or content.

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    5. Re:No voice on DS by Carlbunn · · Score: 1

      Oh, sorry then, I keep reading too fast :)

    6. Re:No voice on DS by porcupine8 · · Score: 1
      I was really looking forward to screaming at my old college friends over Mario Kart DS.

      You lived on my hall, didn't you?

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    7. Re:No voice on DS by Spankophile · · Score: 1

      No, your analogy is still really really stupid.

      But that's par for the course here.

    8. Re:No voice on DS by xgamer04 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I think no-content retorts are more common, as they allow cowards the ability to get a "I know you are but what am I" post in without subjecting themselves to the horror of being proven wrong in an anonymous online forum that is of no real importance.

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  5. Wrong system in title!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    The USB access point is going to be used for the DS. And maybe the Rev later. RTFA before making the title.

    1. Re:Wrong system in title!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Considering this is Zonk we're talking about, we should be thankful that it isn't yet another repost about Katamari Damacy. I can't WAIT for the flood of typical Zonk bullshit when that comes out later this week.

  6. They all laughed! Aha! I am victorious! by nmaster64 · · Score: 1
  7. Good policies by alvinrod · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1) It's free. I don't mind paying a low monthly fee for online gaming if the service is good, but for the most part, my experience with online console gaming is limited to Xbox Live. It's not terrible for $50 a year, but the community occasionally leaves something to be desired. The DS isn't exactly a console though, so it would be hard to say the same rules apply for a console and a portable. Until we see Nintendo's online plan for the revolution, I don't know how much comparison is allowable. In any event, free is always good.

    2) 3rd Party devices can be used. I've already got a Linksys wireless G router, so I won't need to get a Nintendo one. I'm glad that they aren't forcing me to buy an extra piece of hardware. Would I buy one if they required it though? Possibly. But there are probably a lot of people who wouldn't. I'm not sure what similar devices would normally cost, but the price doesn't seem too bad.

    3) Free Nintendo supported hot spots. It's nice that they're making a few free hotspots for DS gamers to gather and play online. Once again free is good.

    I'm a little disappointed that there won't be voice chat, but then again after some of the things you hear on Live (excessive cursing, yelling, people playing music into the mic) I'm not really so sure this is such a bad thing. Then again, that's not really the fault of Xbox Live, merely that of some of those who use it.

    All in all, it's nice to see a company offering free service that you doesn't require first party hardware. I wish that more companies were like this, or at least wouldn't price gouge on the required hardware.

  8. In regards to the Revolution's connectivity by jacks+smirking+reven · · Score: 1

    I hope Wifi is an option but they don't neglect an RJ-45 jack. Wifi is great, but i personally don't completely trust it for gaming yet. Anyone have details on that front?

    1. Re:In regards to the Revolution's connectivity by steveo777 · · Score: 1
      I understand your post completely. But I may be able to offer you some comfort. I used to play a few games at my brothers house using a wireless card at 54Mbs. We weren't playing Starcraft here either. I'm not sure what would be more net intensive, but my favorite multiplayer game is C&C Generals: Zero Hour. We would also play the many FPS's available. Never had a problem as long as the signal was good. The router was in the basement and I was sepereted from it by a concrete wall, but all was well.

      The only thing I'm woried about is security of the system. Someone somewhere is going to start trying to DS-jack or Rev-jack or something. And if they can do that driving down the street, I won't be too thrilled.

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    2. Re:In regards to the Revolution's connectivity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you read anything about the Revolution from E3? At the console's official unveiling, it was announced that there would be wifi only; no ethernet jack will be present on the console. Nintendo feels that the future is WiFi and they are planning to sell the USB unit that will broadcast any broadband connection received by the PC which it is attached to throughout your house.

  9. *All* console-based wi-fi is going to be free by Norfair · · Score: 1

    I don't think Nintendo deserve praise for doing something that would probably have been expected of them closer to the release date of the Revolution, when everyone and their dog is probably going to have wi-fi access. Its like clapping for a politician who, when he's elected, says something like 'Okay everyone, from now on, we're going to let you use the library, no charge!'. Like, duh.

    1. Re:*All* console-based wi-fi is going to be free by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet you'll still have to pay to play games on xbox live ...

    2. Re:*All* console-based wi-fi is going to be free by xgamer04 · · Score: 3, Informative

      It sounds to me like you have "wi-fi" and "online gaming access" mixed up. Nintendo's online plan for the DS is to use the built-in Wi-fi capabilities of the machine to connect to their online service. They aren't going to charge people who connect to the online services for first-party games. If they provided "free wi-fi", it would be the big N running around creating access points.

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    3. Re:*All* console-based wi-fi is going to be free by BlastM · · Score: 3, Informative

      As opposed to Xbox Live or MMORPG subscriptions, people will be able to play Nintendo games online for free. There is no ongoing fee. And unlike PC games which are free to play online (if you connect to an ISP- or player-hosted server), Nintendo is providing all the server and match-up infrastructure. Iwata remarked recently that the reason Nintendo didn't run an online service for the GameCube (instead giving developers free reign to do whatever they wanted to with the broadband adapter by giving away network dev kits) was that there was no business model that made it work for the average consumer. Not everybody wants to pay an ongoing fee to play the odd online game, as can be evidenced by the small adoption of Xbox Live amongst Xbox owners. With the Gamespy partnership, Nintendo can finally make free online console gaming, anywhere, a reality. I think that's bloody marvellous.

  10. No more ranting morons? by supabeast! · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "He said that Nintendo has worked hard to design a system which is secure and protected from the kind of abuse that can come from anonymity."

    Does that mean I'll be able to completely disable voice chat, unlike most Xbox Live games, which force everyone to individually mute 14-year-old net bullies who spend their lives calling everyone on the internet a nigger? Because if that's what they mean, they've got my Next Gen console dollars.

    1. Re:No more ranting morons? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't bother with the headset, and turn the "voice" to off, supawhiner!

    2. Re:No more ranting morons? by supabeast! · · Score: 1

      My point was that most Live games don't have a general off feature, and without a headset, it just gets pumped out with the other sounds - meaning that every time some moron starts babbling or ranting, everyone else in the game has to either listen to it or stop playing and mute that player. It's a pretty crappy way of doing things.

  11. Mario Kart on the 11 by Hitto · · Score: 0

    It's on that very day, that I NEED to buy this console.

  12. scr00d? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm just wondering if this scr00s those of us who live in small cities in Canada? because it would suck to have this great free service and not be able to use it just because I don't live in big American cities...
    This would only be really great if they covered all of North America, Europe and Asian areas. . . I just can't see that as being too feasable.

    Don't get me wrong, this would be a great system, but I can't see it happening right now. . .

    1. Re:scr00d? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you have broadband and a wireless router at home, then I don't see how you'd be screwed.

      Unless you're talking coffee shops, then I have no idea.

  13. I still have a few nagging questions. by amdotaku · · Score: 1

    This certainly is good news for this news to be reconfirmed, but I still have a few more general questions about big N's online gaming: 1) First Party? - Does this just mean plain old first party titles or also the many more Nintendo-only type developers. In other words, will I be playing online Fire Emblem someday free of charge? 2) Nintendo Management for 3rd Party Titles? - I would gladly pay a monthly fee to one source for my online gaming needs that I can relatively trust, like Nintendo, than a billion developers separately. So I certainly hope it will be broken into basically a free and then upgraded subscription service, where the upgraded service would include all you can eat 3rd party online gaming, or at least Nintendo managed 3rd party billing. I think this is especially important because I don't think 3rd party devs will want to put up with the mess of self-management, and revolution will just result in having not many 3rd party online titles. 3) Some Sort of Meet-up Service? - I think Nintendo has a stellar idea with the self contained gaming social networks idea, but I certainly hope that they have a good way devised to have people expand this said social network, or I have a feeling it will be an unused feature, especially because I just don't see Revolution being the mainstream console of the next-generation.

  14. Servers run by nintendo... by saphint · · Score: 1

    If nintendo is running the servers, hopefully they dont forget about australia. If our servers are located in europe or japan, im going to be kinda annoyed, as it will be almost unplayable with the lag. im mostly worried because nintendo doesnt have a force in australia. some game stores rarely stock (if at all) nintendo products. and the DS campaign was barely present. while the PSP as tv ads, bus ads, and eb windows are full of psp posters. im sure telstra is probably willing to host down here, but im not even hopeful that we will even get a wifi service.