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Peerflix Launches P2P DVD Sharing Service

Dotnaught writes "Peerflix has offically launched, ending a 12 month beta test. The company manages the peer-to-peer trading of physical DVDs (with CDs and videogames coming soon) by mail. As the article in InformationWeek suggests, while such trades may be legal under the first-sale doctrine of U.S. Copyright Act, content owners won't be pleased -- discs are easy to copy and there's ample precedent to suggest users will dupe discs before trading them."

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  1. as opposed to the NetFlix project? by way2trivial · · Score: 4, Insightful

    rent it all, copy and send back? is this less/more offensive than netflix= just because there is no monthly fee?

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    1. Re:as opposed to the NetFlix project? by ghstomahawks · · Score: 5, Insightful

      exactly ... but it happens anyway. The real genius is a company finding a way to make money off of illegal scheming of peoples. Rock on!

  2. Asks about piracy by sdaug · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've been using Peerflix through the beta test. Every time I receive a disc, it asks me if it appears to be pirated. I assume they would then take action against the sender if this is the case, but I don't know for sure.

    1. Re:Asks about piracy by modemboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How would you tell if someone pirated it?
      I believe the submitter is suggesting that the end user would make a copy, keep the copy, then send on the original, not the copy...

    2. Re:Asks about piracy by Neil+Blender · · Score: 5, Funny

      How would you tell if someone pirated it?

      I usually see a little box drawn on the disc with a sharpie. Next to the box, the word "copied" is written. If there is a check in the little box, well, you know it's been pirated.

    3. Re:Asks about piracy by xenocide2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually, you're forgetting pirated in Hong Kong / China pirated. The far more popular kind of pirated. I've seen plenty of pirated hardware for consoles, and the same holds true for DVDs. The worksmanship is far superiour to your average burnt in a DVD-r quality, but still not a decent release. Pirated carts are typically much easier to spot, since they usually don't work right and the labels look like trash. This is the sort of piracy that netflix can prevent by purchasing in bulk from reputable distributers, that peerflix can't quite filter for.

      But the submitter probably was suggesting the usual rent-burn-return piracy. It's just not the only form out there is all.

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    4. Re:Asks about piracy by flyingsquid · · Score: 5, Funny
      How would you tell if someone pirated it?

      Scratch marks. The pirate will leave scratch marks when they put the disk in its packaging 'cos they have a hook hand.

      Plus, the notes on the back of the box differ in telltale ways from the usual fare, for example they might say stuff like "Ahar me mateys, this be a fine film, 'two hooks up' raves the critics! The whole crew will rejoice at this swashbuckler of a picture, plus an extra DVD with a treasure chest of bonus scenes! Rated ARRRRRR!"

  3. Fighting The Waves by JordanL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How would any media corporation of any kind fight something like this on any principal but that they think all their users are lying, cheating bastards?

    And even then... would companied like Paramount have to sue themselves for owning something like Blockbuster?

  4. Lying, cheating bastards by Barbarian · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They already think everyone who uses their product is a lying cheating bastard who deserves their scorn.

    Reference:
    - the "do not pirate" commericals in a theatre, after you've paid to see the movie
    - The FBI warning at the beginning of every DVD that you can't fast-forward through
    - Unskippable advertisements on DVDs, especially rentals

  5. Why use this instead of Netflix? by NineNine · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And why would I even consider using this instead of Netflix? With Netflix, I have every DVD I could imagine one day away, and if there's something wrong with it, they'll send me a replacement. With this setup, I'm getting DVD's in who-knows-what condition, in who-knows-how-much time from who-knows-who. Oh yeah, and I'm still paying, possibly more than Netflix. Where do I sign up?

  6. Yeah, right by JoeCommodore · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Like I'm really want to keep a copy of the new Planet of the Apes movie or the new Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy... Studios only wish I wanted those so badly.

    Maybe thet's it, people will realize what turkys they are when Peerflix gets flooded with those loosers.

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  7. Amazing, Isn't It? by Master+of+Transhuman · · Score: 4, Interesting


    The "average user" can't (according to the Windows shills) figure out how to run Linux - but they can figure out how to duplicate a DVD and then share it over a P2P network (according to said "average users" writing for the RIAA and MPAA).

    What's wrong with this picture?

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  8. they already have this service for free by geekoid · · Score: 4, Interesting

    they are called 'Libraries'

    check one out some time.

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  9. My own Peerflix experience... by Rageon · · Score: 5, Informative
    I've been using Peerflix for a couple months and have been relatively satisfied with it. It's proven to be a good way to get rid of all those old DVDs that would have either gathered dust for years or fetched me 3 bucks at a pawn shop. I've gotten plenty of movies as gifts or free throw-ins with things that I never wanted in the first place, or others that I bought but later realized I never watched. Frankly, the $1 it costs to upgrade a crappy movie to something else is well worth it.

    I've only had 1 problem so far. I got a copy of Night of the Living Dead that was scrathed to hell. When it arrived, it played, so I confirmed it. Of course, when I played it, I found that a couple minutes would not play. But because I had let a week or so pass between receipt and claim, I was out of luck. I wrote about 5 emails to their CS about this, and got 1 response, which really had nothing to do with my complaint. But otherwise nearly all the movies I've gotten are in very good condition.

    The bad part is that a lot of movies are technically "available", but might only be in the hands of 1 or 2 other users, neither of which actually intends to share their copy, but has it listed for one reason or another. So it sometimes takes a few weeks (or more) to get some movies. Also, maybe half the movies I listed have been requested by others. But then again, I didn't expect the demand to be extremely high for that copy of The Mask someone gave me. Generally, good movies get requested fairly quickly.

    If you have a specific movie in mind that you want right away, Peerflix isn't the best solution. But if you have a list of 20 or so movies you would like to get eventually, it's a nice service.

    My only other complaint would be that when your "Peerbux" goes to zero, it automatically charges another $5 worth to you, rather than waiting until you actually want to buy something. This is obviously a nice way for the company to get a few bucks extra from everyone in the end, but it strikes me as shadey.

    As far a Piracy goes, well, it's really no different than renting movies or using Netflix, so I think it's a non-issue as it pertains to Peerflix specifically.

    1. Re:My own Peerflix experience... by Wanker · · Score: 4, Interesting
      I've only had 1 problem so far. I got a copy of Night of the Living Dead that was scrathed to hell.

      You're in luck! This movie is in the Public Domain due to a forgotten copyright renewal back in The Good Old Days when they were still required.

      Download and burn a copy. It's legal. Check around.

      http://www.archive.org/details/night_of_the_living _dead
  10. Re:bah... we already have a trading medium by great+throwdini · · Score: 4, Informative

    you get the full purchase price minus a $1 service fee and the Amazon seller fee.

    Uh, you get the sale price less the Amazon seller fee and a $1 service charge. It's not based off the original purchase price, as resold DVDs typically don't sell for anywhere near original cost to you. And who gets the extra amount Amazon reimburses for shipping (which is treated separately from its fees)?

    Whomever is behind replaylink.com is basically printing out the mailer and charging you for that nicety. Why not sell it yourself and not pay the fee? It's pretty easy to list items for sale on Amazon, with no need to share information with another third-party.

    It also seems a bit shady vis-a-vis Amazon's resale policy, what with a seller listing items for trade that aren't in its direct possession ... neat idea, but it basically introduces a second middle-man (in addition to Amazon) to the transaction between true buyer and true seller.