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WinMX Suspends Operations

An anonymous reader writes "Slyck.com is reporting that it appears the WinMX network has shut down its operations in response to the RIAA's letters threating legal action. Although the WinMX network is currently down, this may only be temporary as developers seem to have relocated from Canada to Port Villa, Vanuatu."

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  1. Pertinent Links: by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative


    Some information about Vanuatu, as well as its capital, Port Vila (misspelled in TFA) can be found here and here.

    As for why WinMX might want to relocate there, this link should shed a little light on the issue...

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    1. Re:Pertinent Links: by interiot · · Score: 4, Informative

      It should be especially hilighted that Kazaa has already moved to Vanuatu, so the island clearly has decent internet connectivity in place already.

    2. Re:Pertinent Links: by DaveFromChicago · · Score: 4, Funny

      Vanuatu - the India of P2P?

    3. Re:Pertinent Links: by Animekiksazz · · Score: 5, Funny

      What an interesting government website. "...and don't even think about applying if you've got money laundering on your mind."

    4. Re:Pertinent Links: by lelitsch · · Score: 4, Funny


      As for why WinMX might want to relocate there from Canada, this link should also shed a little light on the issue...

  2. WOAH by Craptastic+Weasel · · Score: 5, Funny

    talk about "change for the better"... from snowy days to sunny days... I kind of want the RIAA to send me one of those legal threats, I need a change of locale!!!

  3. Are they planning to live there too? by RLiegh · · Score: 4, Informative

    If not, they're still under the jurisdiction. Scratch that, under the DMCA they're still liable for any 'ip violation' that their product 'enables' in countries that follow the DMCA (such as the US).

  4. Tax haven? Not for long..... by CDMA_Demo · · Score: 4, Insightful


    Sure it is very interesting. But I wonder what will happen if every p2p company takes refuge in Vanuatu. The laws specifically prohibit pornography and don't even think about applying if you've got money laundering on your mind. U.S. can easily pressurize a country of the size of Republic of Vanuatu to extend their laws to prohibit sharing copyright work!

    1. Re:Tax haven? Not for long..... by abes · · Score: 5, Funny
      I know we have a lot of hot air coming from America, but I'm suspicious of being able to pressurize an entire country..

      Might come in useful if the tectonic plates ever get a bit slippery...

  5. Doubt it... by Otter · · Score: 4, Informative
    ...developers seem to have relocated from Canada to Port Villa, Vanuatu

    No, the address on their domain name registration has been been relocated to Vanuatu. I very much doubt that developers themselves would move to Vanuatu over a barely-operational P2P scheme. If you're going to do make a move like that, there are much nicer places in the South Pacific.

  6. Google Maps by qw0ntum · · Score: 5, Informative

    This is where Vanuatu is.

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  7. Re:Does anyone consider WinMX safe anyway? by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 4, Informative

    No spyware. Used it for a long time before torrents. Never had spyware turn up in any scan.

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  8. Well that's it.. by modi123 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Dear RIAA,

    I officially give up. This is the straw the finally broke the camel's back (it always seems to be the LAST straw that does this - hrmph). I will officially renounce my intent on pirating media, software, pr0n, and the like. I am currently burning my PC to stop enabling me to do bad things (did you guys patent the phrase "If thy eye offends, pluck it out; if they hand does wrong chop it off"?). Additionally, I will re-buy all my purchased media again - just in case some where along the line it was pirated. I can not take the pressure anymore - too many people have been hurt because of my negligence. Please oh please just call off the dogs before more people are hurt. With this latest action you have successfully reached critical mass of the "Piracy == Bad" meme, and people will understand. Thank you for your service in showing humanity where it went wrong, and that the red pill is not for us. To make it up to you, I will pay double for my CDs, send you a dozen roses every week, and mow your lawn. Please, take me back! I want to be loved again. I really didn't know I was hurting you like that baby. Sugar, you got to believe me!

    xoxoxo

    - modi

    I wish to extend a welcome to the new media overlords. May they use their infinite wisdom to safe guard freedom and the natural order of things.

  9. Welcome to Fantasy Island! by MightyMartian · · Score: 5, Funny
    As for why WinMX might want to relocate there, this link should shed a little light on the issue...

    Tattoo: Bozz, bozz, ze plane, ze plane!
    Mr. Roarke: Yes, Tattoo. Let us go meet our guests.
    Tattoo: Who are zey, bozz?
    Mr. Roarke: They are wanted criminals and nihilists. They have come here to set up an illicit P2P network.
    Tattoo [rubbing hands together]: Ooh, I cannot wait see what you have in store for them, bozz. And who are those people, bozz?
    Mr. Roarke: They from the Recording Industry Association of America.
    Tattoo: Why zem, bozz?
    Mr. Roarke: Let's just say, Tattoo, that I enjoy putting spiders and flies in small jars together. [arms out to guests] Welcome to Fantasy Island!

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  10. New Government? by RManning · · Score: 4, Funny

    Vanatu seems like a really nice place to live. I found this on their government's news site:

    Vanuatu has a new Government. Please revisit this site next week

  11. Survivor: Return to Vanuatu.. by cryogenix · · Score: 5, Funny

    19 survivors will be standed on an Island for 39 days while they attempt to avoid the RIAA.... Reward challenges will give legal mp3 credits which of course can only be played on limited devices and burned once...

  12. Its Still Legal in Canada by kwandar · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Its strange that the RIAA would bother sending a letter to a Canadian company.

    Music is quite legal (until the government changes the law) to download in Canada. It is most likely legal to have it available for download too, provided that you are not "distributing", which seems to require active promotion.

    I would think software developers would be one step further removed from that. Good luck to the RIAA pressing their case in Canada under the current law. CRIA was already stupid enough to take it to the Federal Court http://www.cippic.ca/en/projects-cases/file-sharin g-lawsuits/ and lose.

  13. As a Vanuatu-based geek... by grcumb · · Score: 5, Informative

    ...Perhaps I can offer a little bit of background.

    I've been living and working in Vanuatu for the last two years, and have some experience in the IT sector here. So let me try and provide a little perspective.

    First, the vanuatugovernment.vu website is NOT the official government website. It was put together by some less-than-reputable individuals who took advantage of their connections with certain politicians to try to sell 'honorary consulships' to 'independant businessmen'. Basically, this is a way of making money from the sale of diplomatic passports. Among the people found to be using Vanuatu diplomatic passports are a Northern Irish 'contractor' working in Sierra Leone and a convicted member of a Chinese triad.

    Second, the information on wikipedia.org is far from complete - and in some cases, inaccurate. And yes, as another poster has mentioned, The capital is Port Vila (one 'l'), so the summary is mis-spelled.

    Third, Vanuatu has for quite a long time been associated with businesses who need a more flexible set of business rules than they might find in the US. Kazaa, for example, is incorporated in Vanuatu. As a gesture of appreciation, we now have the Kazaa Cricket field, which will be hosting international competition in the next couple of weeks.

    There are some seriously large online betting operations interested in setting up shop in Vanuatu. Without telling tales out of school, I can confirm that one operation recently received approval to install one 7m and one 4m satellite dish, giving it total bandwidth capacity of about 40 Mbps. This in a country that currently has a national total about about 4 Mbps for voice and data combined!

    Shades of Cryptonomicon, there actually is a 'bunker' here - a hardened server room with independant everything that is being used to manage data more or less along the same lines that Neal Stephenson suggested in his book.

    Vanuatu has some of the most expensive Internet services in the world. I'm composing this message on a 56k dial-up line shared with 6 others computers. Unlimited dial-up costs a paltry USD 200/month, and dedicated access typically runs about USD 1000/month when bandwidth is factored in.

    Vanuatu was once a site of significant money-laundering activity. Since 2001, the regulatory regime has been strengthened significantly. And yes, it was because the US 'pressurized' the government to act. They simply informed Vanuatu that if they didn't conform to certain minimum standards, they wouldn't be able to buy US dollars. Very persuasive.

    Vanuatu is still a major tax haven, and is increasingly of interest to Australian investors. As I write, the private yacht of the richest man in Australia (Kerry Packer) is anchored in Port Vila Bay.

    There are over 100 native languages in Vanuatu, but the language of commerce here is Bislama, a pidgin English that is really interesting to learn. Here is a quick and amusing sampler.

    As far as WinMX is concerned, I've heard nothing about their arrival in Vanuatu, but some people are fairly secretive about the business they do here, so maybe I shouldn't be skeptical....

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  14. Re:There is NOTHING the RIAA or the USA can do by grcumb · · Score: 4, Informative

    "If the cables just happened to "break" somewhere, would Vanuatu even have the resources to fix them?"

    No, but it's okay. Vanuatu doesn't have undersea cables. Nor does it have the USD 20 million to have one laid. As I mentioned in a previous post, total national bandwidth - for both voice and data - is somewhere around 4Mbps, all through satellite.

    Businesses who want to work online typically install their own satellite equipment. Typically, only the cash transactions occur in Vanuatu itself. That means that if you make a bet online, for example, you've placed your bet on a server somewhere in the US (or wherever), but your card actually gets debited through a transaction queued through a server sitting in a air-conditioned room in Vanuatu.

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  15. Re:As a Vanuatu-based geek...THEN HELP US by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Second, the information on wikipedia.org is far from complete - and in some cases, inaccurate.

    Then help us out and update the Wikipedia. That's what the whole thing is all about!

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