Slashcode is such a joke. Come on, pulling some text from a db and spitting it out to a web page IS NOT HARD! There is no reason for code to go live that is so broken as it is now. And before you blah blah blah me about whether or not I have done it, I have. I used to work for a porn site that got 10 times the visits this shit pile gets. Mod me troll, I could hardly give a shit. This just plain sucks. I mean the dupes, the grammar, the zonk "editorials", scuttlemonkey?? I had half a hope when they fired michael but, fucking christ.
And to subtract more karma: I'm sure this site probably looks absolutely fucking great in IE on an XP box. I mean I bet it is the shit, a thousand times better than before. SO fucking fantastic, that the slashcoders are probably cracking open the champange congratulating themselves on a job well done. But, oh wait...I using the latest version of Firefox under linux. Isn't this site about open source? Maybe I should dig around to see if they incorporated any active-x...I surely must be missing something.
There's two types of comments below: "This looks great" and "This looks like shit/what the hell is going on?" 10 bucks says the great come from windows users and the shit/wtf comments comes from non windows users. Hypocricy at its finest. Years and years of M$ IS TEH SUXORS but this code is optimized and tested for the windows versions of all the browsers.
"10 bucks says the great come from windows users and the shit/wtf comments comes from non windows users."
You owe ten dollars I guess. It works both fine and shit/wtf in Opera, under Windows. Refreshing a few times fixes it, but the next refresh breaks it again (although that actually has stopped now)
Looks great! Firefox under Linux. Dunno what the others are complaining about, but I didn't even realize they made the switch until reading the comments about it above.
The layout!
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What the hell happened? I must have made a wrong click somwhere.
Quick, someone pour some hot grits down my pants to make sure I'm not dreaming!
Re:Oh My God
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Anonymous Coward
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Looks great in IE though... isn't that all that matters?:P
Re:Oh My God
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Actually, it seems to be crapping it's pants in various ways each time you reload. Perhaps it's not rolled out to all the cluster (/. runs clustered doesn't it?) yet.
Too bad it borks the Live Comment Tree Script for Greasemonkey(http://www.allpeers.com/blog/?p=137). Seriously that is the best script ever...
Re:Oh My God
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Anonymous Coward
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Actually it looks like crap everywhere. The margin/paddings seemed to just be random. Bring back the professional table layout where everything was aligned properly!
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Woah
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Anonymous Coward
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slashdot just got pimped out?!
New Design? (OT)
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Anonymous Coward
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I was getting 503 HTTP errors when trying to load the page, but it still looks like there are bugs to be worked out in this new site design. Maybe the site should be taken down again?
slashdot upgrade
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Anonymous Coward
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Looks like slashdot is being upgraded, but talk about the incompetence of the idiot who is doing it! Have you guys got no clue at all about upgrading a service without actually breaking it?
And the New Slashcode....
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Fails it after a couple minutes. 503'd!!!!
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Re:And the New Slashcode....
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don't be a butthole
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It's not like this is an advertising-dependent site with paying customers and millions of visitors a day.
How to fix it.
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Do a ctrl-F5 and all will be well.:0
Re:How to fix it.
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just wondering, what is ctrl-f5? i did it and it worked but y?
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Re:How to fix it.
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I looked it up in the Firefox help and it's reload (ignore cache). I've never used it before, and I wonder why it works too.
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Re:How to fix it.
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Because the page is delivering broken CSS stylesheets (i presume); ctrl+f5 forces a reload of everything including CSS data, which looks like does the trick.
Slashdot now CSS; entire thread will be Offtopic
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So much for discussing the newest stable of OpenOffice. Hooray for the new layout and less bandwidth usage!
First -1 flamebait under CSS design.
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Glad to see this has happened, but at the moment the code isn't currently valid. Like the new subtleties of the design, particularly the reply page.
Re:First -1 flamebait under CSS design.
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All things considered, the code is *much* more valid than it used to be. It contains zero nested tables (or layout tables at all), and switching to the Transitional doctype reduces the HTML errors to alt attributes and URL escaping.
Re:First -1 flamebait under CSS design.
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the code is *much* more valid than it used to be.
No, it isn't. It's exactly as valid as it was before. Validity is a binary thing - a document is either valid or it isn't. Slashdot was not valid before, it is not valid now.
Perhaps what you meant to say was that there were less syntax errors. This is true, however that does not translate into "more valid".
It contains zero nested tables (or layout tables at all)
That is not a matter of validity. The table element can be used in valid documents just fine.
Re:First -1 flamebait under CSS design.
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Oh man! We came soooo close to slashdotting the World Wide Web Consortium! They caught it just in time however and threw a 403: forbidden back at me when I tried the html validator link.
Hopefully they don't use the power of CSS to make the site look too nice. It's crappiness makes it easy to pass it off as a technical or internal website when I'm reading at work.
Re:First -1 flamebait under CSS design.
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It could be worse. Looks like almost all those errors are from some nonexistent "nobr" element which every comment seems to have on it. One small fix, and there may be only a few bugs left. It's still much better than it was.:-)
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Slashdot in CSS?
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Is it just me, or is slashdot actually using CSS now? It seems a little spotty (I get unformatted pages being rendered occasionally) but, um, otherwise it looks good... well, the same, but using style sheets. Way to go slashdot crew - I hope the kinks get worked out shortly.
To whoever is upgrading the site:
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Could you not have picked a better time to do this upgrade? Everything here looked broken. And BTW, we might see a new record for off-topic posts here.
OpenOffice anyone?
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This news-story isn't going to get much attention here...
lair, you are not using lynx otherwise you could have not made the post due to the captcha.
not quite cooked yet
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You should update your organisation template and put some links here linking back to your site.
It's pretty fun to see a zany new slashdot every time I refresh, though.
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In response to the new look of Slashdot
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Come in, come in. Mayday! I'm losing your transmission!
Looks like ass in Safari!
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At the time of this posting, Safari on Tiger does not seem to like the home page, or at least the home page's stylesheet. Seems to render okay in the G5-specific build of Firefox, though.
Anybody getting a decent render in Safari?
Re:Looks like ass in Safari!
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IE sure is doing a good job with the site (seriously) - have you considered the virtues of proprietary software lately?
Re:Looks like ass in Safari!
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Looks good here, Safari 1.3.1 (Panther) I think it's the exact same renderer as the Tiger version.
Maybe a refresh would help?
Dear cmdrTaco
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Taco please stop screwing around with the page. Zonk would never do something crazy like this!
First CSS post!
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First one who was able to navigate the missing "http:" and make an asinine post!
It has started, it looks weird. Actually, not "weird", it just resolves as if I was running an ancient browser. It still seems to work.
OK, now I've got the familiar Slashdot comment submission page, looks OK so far. When I started typing everything was ordered down the page with no formatting - all the content was still there, though. That's how CSS is supposed to degrade.
Re:Slashdot CSS
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Looks like it's stabilized now.. (0017 EDT). Wonder what happened for those few minutes? Think we'll see a story on this soon?
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Re:Slashdot CSS
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If you think the changes to normal mode make it look like you were running an ancient browser, you should see the canges it makes to 'ancient brwser mode', aka 'Light', which I prefer.
I was going to say that/. looked the same until I loaded this reply page and its totaly broken in Safari. and I mean totally. everything is on the left side of the page until you get to the post comment area which is 3/4ths the way down the page.
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Re:WTF
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I'm just replying to see for myself what it is you're talking about.
new CSS for slashdot!
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I can tell something's changed... but what is it? *digs into the new code*
Firefox
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I thought they were doing just the opposite.
That's Great
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That's great and all, but what the hell is that CSS smell?
-Peter
Re:What the hell...
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No, no.
Taco figured why waste money on a development server or two when you can just develop it right on the live servers. "What they hell," he said. "It'll give those losers something to whine about. We'll get it right in a few days, and until then, screw them."
Though I think I like the mix of Arial and Times New Roman text. It takes me back to 1995.
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[OT] Re:Oh My God
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Nice... AdBlock seems to work somewhat more efficiently now.:-)
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Re:What the hell...
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Oh? What? I was.. i was just taking a nap.
Oh! You weren't calling me. Nevermind. See you soon, I guess.
Don't forget the LIGHT VERSION!
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Oh my God! What did you do to my "Light" version? Line breaks between "Read More", the number of posts, and the URL? This is messed up.
Open Office Going Strong!
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It is what IT is?
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Why did the phrase in the top left corner change from "News for Nerds, Stuff that matters"?
You know, what Slashdot really needs is a link on every Nth level post to skip to the next Nth level post. That would be sweet. If I were Bezos I'd patent it. Even if it's been done before. Then if I were Microsoft I'd patent a way to do it in one pass, but only if it's been done before.
By the way, what's with all the people complaining about how the site looks? I'm using Lynx and it looks totally normal to me.
I had to turn off lite mode in FF (been using it for years, too) because the site looks completely borked. If the owners give a shit, they should take a look at how it looks using FF (win32, 1024x786 res if that helps).
I'm using light mode on FF on Windows and it's fine. Sure it looks like ass but I wouldn't expect otherwise from/. - I can still read the content and comments without the extra fluff, so who cares about the rest.
Paging CmdrTaco
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I know how to permanently eliminate trolls from Slashdot and still allow anonymous posting of a sort. Here it tis:
1. Set up a slasdotusers.com mail server and domain 2. Require ALL Slashdot users to sign up for an e-mail address at this domain 3. Make the e-mail account totally useless for anything other than verification (1K quota and 12 hour retention policy. You can do this with Exchange 2003) 4. Do not allow people to use any other e-mail address for verification but these addresses 5. Delete accounts that refuse to comply 6. If anyone breaks any of the site rules, you can drop them like a hot potato and not have to worry about them faking another account through a different provider 7. Require personal information to be tied to the account, but keep the registration simple so that people aren't truned off immediately
This would ensure that trolls never roam about on Slashdot ever again. They wouldn't be able to get multiple e-mail accounts because they'd only be allowed one account on YOUR Exchange server for life. If they fuck it up, they're gone for good. See.... the moderation system isn't needed. It's always the simpler solutions that work out better in the end.
Slashdot Mirror
Am I at the right fucking site? I am seeing blood
What the hell happened? I must have made a wrong click somwhere.
Quick, someone pour some hot grits down my pants to make sure I'm not dreaming!
Damn you Taco! Give me back my broken html, non validating Slashdot!
ps - doesn't look to hot in Firefox at the moment. You might need to tweak a few things.
I love the new slashdot layout.
slashdot just got pimped out?!
I was getting 503 HTTP errors when trying to load the page, but it still looks like there are bugs to be worked out in this new site design. Maybe the site should be taken down again?
Looks like slashdot is being upgraded, but talk about the incompetence of the idiot who is doing it! Have you guys got no clue at all about upgrading a service without actually breaking it?
Fails it after a couple minutes. 503'd!!!!
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire
It's not like this is an advertising-dependent site with paying customers and millions of visitors a day.
Do a ctrl-F5 and all will be well. :0
So much for discussing the newest stable of OpenOffice. Hooray for the new layout and less bandwidth usage!
Glad to see this has happened, but at the moment the code isn't currently valid. Like the new subtleties of the design, particularly the reply page.
Is it just me, or is slashdot actually using CSS now? It seems a little spotty (I get unformatted pages being rendered occasionally) but, um, otherwise it looks good... well, the same, but using style sheets. Way to go slashdot crew - I hope the kinks get worked out shortly.
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Could you not have picked a better time to do this upgrade? Everything here looked broken. And BTW, we might see a new record for off-topic posts here.
This news-story isn't going to get much attention here...
Glitch in the matrix! Fonts too big!
lair, you are not using lynx otherwise you could have not made the post due to the captcha.
there's more than one way to do me.
Come in, come in. Mayday! I'm losing your transmission!
At the time of this posting, Safari on Tiger does not seem to like the home page, or at least the home page's stylesheet. Seems to render okay in the G5-specific build of Firefox, though.
Anybody getting a decent render in Safari?
Taco please stop screwing around with the page. Zonk would never do something crazy like this!
First one who was able to navigate the missing "http:" and make an asinine post!
Logged in users don't have to jump through hoops to post.
What happened to Slashfot's front page today ?
You should update your organisation template and put some links here linking back to your site.
Now did they really develop this stuff themselves? Surely they don't need little notes like that to help them build their own site? :P
It has started, it looks weird. Actually, not "weird", it just resolves as if I was running an ancient browser. It still seems to work.
OK, now I've got the familiar Slashdot comment submission page, looks OK so far. When I started typing everything was ordered down the page with no formatting - all the content was still there, though. That's how CSS is supposed to degrade.
I was going to say that /. looked the same until I loaded this reply page and its totaly broken in Safari. and I mean totally. everything is on the left side of the page until you get to the post comment area which is 3/4ths the way down the page.
OMG Ponies!!! with Glitter!!!! I miss Pink
so... what do you think?
I can tell something's changed... but what is it? *digs into the new code*
I thought they were doing just the opposite.
That's great and all, but what the hell is that CSS smell?
-Peter
No, no.
Taco figured why waste money on a development server or two when you can just develop it right on the live servers. "What they hell," he said. "It'll give those losers something to whine about. We'll get it right in a few days, and until then, screw them."
Though I think I like the mix of Arial and Times New Roman text. It takes me back to 1995.
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Nice... AdBlock seems to work somewhat more efficiently now. :-)
Karma: It's all a bunch of tree-huggin' hippy crap!
Oh? What? I was.. i was just taking a nap.
Oh! You weren't calling me. Nevermind. See you soon, I guess.
Oh my God! What did you do to my "Light" version? Line breaks between "Read More", the number of posts, and the URL? This is messed up.
Rob
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Why did the phrase in the top left corner change from "News for Nerds, Stuff that matters"?
You know, what Slashdot really needs is a link on every Nth level post to skip to the next Nth level post. That would be sweet. If I were Bezos I'd patent it. Even if it's been done before. Then if I were Microsoft I'd patent a way to do it in one pass, but only if it's been done before.
Whoa, way ot. Go Open Office!
I had to turn off lite mode in FF (been using it for years, too) because the site looks completely borked. If the owners give a shit, they should take a look at how it looks using FF (win32, 1024x786 res if that helps).
I'm using light mode on FF on Windows and it's fine. Sure it looks like ass but I wouldn't expect otherwise from /. - I can still read the content and comments without the extra fluff, so who cares about the rest.
I know how to permanently eliminate trolls from Slashdot and still allow anonymous posting of a sort. Here it tis:
1. Set up a slasdotusers.com mail server and domain
2. Require ALL Slashdot users to sign up for an e-mail address at this domain
3. Make the e-mail account totally useless for anything other than verification (1K quota and 12 hour retention policy. You can do this with Exchange 2003)
4. Do not allow people to use any other e-mail address for verification but these addresses
5. Delete accounts that refuse to comply
6. If anyone breaks any of the site rules, you can drop them like a hot potato and not have to worry about them faking another account through a different provider
7. Require personal information to be tied to the account, but keep the registration simple
so that people aren't truned off immediately
This would ensure that trolls never roam about on Slashdot ever again. They wouldn't be able to get multiple e-mail accounts because they'd only be allowed one account on YOUR Exchange server for life. If they fuck it up, they're gone for good. See.... the moderation system isn't needed. It's always the simpler solutions that work out better in the end.