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Red Hat and HP Establish Linux Storage Lab

Posted by CmdrTaco on from the your-put-your-bits-in-there dept.

Rob writes "Linux distributor Red Hat has teamed up with Hewlett-Packard to create a new performance test lab to help customers deploy enterprise storage across Linux environments. The lab will focus on performance and integration testing in order to produce best practices and solutions guides, the companies said, and will also enable customers to preview new technological developments."

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  1. i wish ... by dominic.laporte · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they do performance tests on

    1) postgres with large data sets over SATA and IDE hard drives.
    2) mysql with large data sets over SATA and IDE hard drives.
    3) both of the above over www.coraid.com.

    p.s.
    coraid drivers are gpl and part of the kernel already.

  2. It's all about the GFS by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Informative


    Some information on the Global File System can be found here and here.

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    1. Re:It's all about the GFS by AKAImBatman · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to be confused with the Google File System. A lot of people confuse them (same TLA), so it's important that sysadmins are clear that they are very different. If you install G[lobal]FS, you're getting something that has different goals in distributing the data than those of the Google servers. Google's FS has only a modicum of documentation, and no public implementation available. If you want to replicate GoogleFS, you'll have to guess as to the parts that their documentation doesn't cover.

      Now back to your regularly scheduled program. :-)

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    2. Re:It's all about the GFS by drdink · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't see how GFS can scale as well as something like OpenAFS. With AFS, you get an entire infrastructure. I wish more people would be investing time and effort into improving filesystems like AFS, where all systems can share a common namespace without requiring the availability of a SAN. The two have slightly different uses, but it'd still be nice to see more force behind AFS now that it is opensourced.

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    3. Re:It's all about the GFS by spacey · · Score: 3, Informative

      IIRC AFS only provides for a single system to be the writer to the whole distributed filesystem (though it does allow replicants so even if the main server dies the files are still available for read).

      GFS allows every node to read and write simultaneously so each system can get full bandwidth out of the storage unit.

      They're rather different beasts, solving different problems.

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  3. Re:Consolidation -even better... by bogaboga · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...would be an option from HP, to buy the ability to buy a Linux desktop as easily as one can buy a Windows one from HP's website. I know HP does not want any kind of liability but Linux desktops could be sold without as much support as the Windows desktops...

    ...Or the ability to download Linux drivers for HP's printers, and other equipment from HP's website. I know there is http://linuxprinting.org/ for printers but I would like it from the horse's mouth - i.e. from http://www.hp.com/

    Is that too much to ask from a major computer vendor that claims to support Linux? I do not think so.

  4. Re:Consolidation -even better... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 4, Interesting


    Another option for HP could be selling a blank system, and let the end user worry about the OS. With this approach, HP neatly avoids any liability, and still can be seen to be tacitly suppporting Linux.

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  5. It's about time that... by TarrySingh · · Score: 4, Interesting

    People start shedding fears of the penguin. It's an alternative and it's very much user friendly. I predict that soon the users community will shift/accept it even at home. Although I see Novell(suse) making more progress there. Red Hat recently announced that GFS is now supported by Oracle for use with Real Application Cluster database configurations, and has been certified for use with EMC's Clariion networked storage systems, and Celerra iSCSI network attached storage systems, as well as Network Appliance's SAN interfaces BTW HP has been offering RAC on RHEL already for a long time now. Althoug hte GFS will certainly avoid the need of running the HP clsuterware(I hope) tool.

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    1. Re:It's about time that... by fourbeer · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I believe M$oft does not allow the sale of blank systems. They really control what goes on a system. I think Wal-mart tried this and was strong-armed by M$soft.

  6. Not quite by earnest+murderer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is mostly a webvertisment/reference for deploying GFS on HP Proliant server hardware.

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  7. Who will be the next OEM... by Torinir · · Score: 5, Interesting

    to announce a Linux partnership?

    It was almost a given that HP would team up with some major Linux distro, given that they have a fair sized share of the corporate market. I'd open my eyes a little more if Dell or another primarily HSB (Home and Small Business) OEM were to start to offer Linux systems.

    Of course, it'd also be nice if some of those manufacturers would also add Linux support for their peripheral products. There's so few good drivers for printers/scanners/all-in-ones, especially from HP (which I do tech support for), and tbh I don't have the coding skills to build my own. It's probably a big reason that Linux use is still relatively light on the HSB side.

  8. SATA disks possibly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    SATA disks is possibly true. To those of you who say "What??! Ordinary SATA disks on mission critical servers??!" - even high end enterprise storage systems (like EMC Symmetrix) use ordinary disks.

  9. HP Storage Appliances by dido · · Score: 4, Informative

    Being seasoned in Linux enterprise deployments, I've had more than my share of frustration with some of HP's own storage appliances. Their entry-level storage appliances, the MSA series (which IIRC, they inherited from Compaq), seem to be pretty ok, but they're no good when you start growing to the point when more than several machines need to attach to the SAN. The VA series of high-end storage appliances are in contrast the very devil to deal with. I remember the problems a client of ours was having with these monsters when they were using it for Oracle 9i RAC. Their RAID management started having problems once the disks started filling up to more than 75% capacity, and HP never was able to give us a satisfactory solution, except to replace the damn storage array with something bigger and much more expensive. And so overtures from the likes of EMC began to reach much more receptive ears...

    I certainly hope this helps with the engineering of HP's storage appliance line, and they can fix some of the brain damage that some of them have.

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  10. Re:Consolidation -even better... by F_Scentura · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've heard of some shady tactics in my time working for a larger PC OEM, but *never* a mention of this. The shipping out of winmodems (and similar components) was done for reasons of cost, not to reduce interoperability.

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  12. can't do it. microsoft tax. by jasonhamilton · · Score: 3, Funny

    MS would throw a fit. Anyone who doesn't want windows on their box is clearly going to pirate windows. Therefor the logic is to charge you even more when you don't get windows preinstalled as you're going to be pirating it anyway.

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