KDE 3.5 Beta 1 Announced

christchurch writes "The KDE Project has announced the immediate availability of KDE 3.5 Beta 1, dubbed "Kanzler". This will be the last major release in the KDE 3 series. Qt 3.3.5 was released too late to adapt to it and it shows some fundamental compilation problems. We had a preview of KDE 3.5 two months ago."

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Already running it!

[Mishura]

Its pretty cool. Hasn't crashed yet. If you are running Kubuntu, you can go to this site: http://kubuntu.org/kde-35beta1.php and get the hookup.

Re:Already running it!

[Mishura]

Lets see, everytime I try to use Transparency or drop shadows (in KDE 3.4.2) it wouldn't work. It wouldn't crash, just give me an error message.

Haven't tried it yet with 3.5.. no point really. My system gets bogged down if I'm running amaroK and something else thats big. I do like the new mouseover effects on the taskbar (hover mouse over clock when you upgrade. Thats cool.) As far as speed goes.. feels just as fast as 3.4. I've only had it installed for about 4 hours, so.. I'll find out the little quirks later.

Big selling point: Konqueror ad-blocking. Now I can use that instead of Firefox, which is slow. Plus Konqueror handles media types better than the mplayerplug-in hack that Firefox uses (launch in Kaffeine).

KDE NEEDS WYSIWYG PRINTING

[Anonymous Coward]

kde cannot print for a damn, it lacks wysiwyg printing, documents in konqueror and kmail and koffice do not appear the same on the screen when compared to print output.

do not tell me it works fine because i know that it does not work.

Re:KDE NEEDS WYSIWYG PRINTING

[Anonymous Coward]

it was one of the Google Summer of Code projects
http://developer.kde.org/summerofcode/pagedmedia.h tml

it is in trunk, will be in 4.0

Re:KDE NEEDS WYSIWYG PRINTING

[chill]

I have not had a problem with printing from KWord using CUPS as the printing service and the standard KDE interface to it. The print preview looks just like the output, as does what is on the screen in KWord.

I haven't tried it in Konqueror or KMail, but if you're having a problem it is probably something to do with KHTML's interpretation. That is a known issue and being actively worked on. It was part of Google's "Summer of Code".

  -Charles

Two Words

[mpapet]

Print Selection

One of many basic features that remains unfulfilled.

One example of the fundamental difference between OSS and commercial offerings.

Now, if you can work just fine without such a simple feature, then KDE is great. I use it and have been for quite a while now. But KDE is low on the WAF. (Wife Acceptance Factor)

I know, more than two words. Don't get your knickers in a bunch.

Re:Two Words

[user317]

huh? kde works with cups lpr lpd and rlpr. setting up yor printer is outside the scope of kde and should be done by your distro/admin, but once printing is working its fairly trivial to select that printer that you use. my office uses lpr, and my laptop running gentoo automatically finds all the printers on the network. i can select the one that i want to print using, you guessed it File->Print. A dialog box pops up where you can select the printer that you want to use under Name:. so wtf r u talking about?

Re:Two Words

[bsartist]

A dialog box pops up where you can select the printer that you want to use under Name:. so wtf r u talking about?

Perhaps if you spent more time reading standard English and less time using "cute" messaging baby-talk, you'd understand. The OP didn't say he has a problem selecting a printer. He said he has a problem printing the current selection. That is, the currently selected text.

Konqueror succeeds at ACID2 and gets Adblock!

[Einherjer]

Konqueror (I suppose with the Apple patches in, thanks guys) now succeeds at rendering the ACID2 Webstandard-Tests (yes, we know that it's not an official standard. Firefox still can't do this.

And best of all, its got AdBlock-like functionality integrated, that works like a charm. Even with the Filter G Set for Mozilla Adblock.

That's one less user for Firefox, I'm sticking to Konqueror now as it is faster and not as memory-greedy.

Check it out!

Re:Konqueror succeeds at ACID2 and gets Adblock!

[Einherjer]

http://kde-cygwin.sourceforge.net/

you asked for it :)

Re:Konqueror succeeds at ACID2 and gets Adblock!

[WhiteWolf666]

Everything you want to do can be achieved by hand editing the user profiles, and then putting a 'load profile' button in your main toolbar.

Define separate homes for browsing and file managing.

I believe you can specify target windows for file manager tabs. You'd need to edit your default file manager profile

Any of the KDE window settings can be defined in the view profile, and it will be specific to the profile.

The only problem is you can't get multiple bars for the user profiles on your toolbar, just a 'load profile' button

Re:3.6?

[Anonymous Coward]

yes, that's the plan for 4.0, thanks to Qt now being GPL on windows too. i don't know how many people will be working on this, though. probably few.

Re:Old news again!

[m50d]

It's not OSNews, it's KDE Dot, the summary is identical. This happened with the Qt 4 release too, even though I'd submitted a better version. I think the way to get stories approved is to bribe the /. editors.

Website information

[Shotgun]

Why should I care?

Really, in the best writing classes that I've ever taken, the instructed always made the point that a writer should always be first concerned with why would the reader care about the subject matter.

I looked all over KDE's website. About all I could find was "Here's a new beta. Try it and tell us what you think." But, nowhere did it give me any reason to want to try it. I use KDE on a production basis, but there's no reason for me to go poking around and messing with stuff that ain't broken unless there is some benefit to realize.

Hey, guys and gals. I know ya'll've been working on something. What have you fixed/upgraded/added?

Re:Website information

[mkro]

KDE 3.5 feature plan. Green is finished, yellow is in progress, red not started.
Anyone tried the MSN and Yahoo webcam support in Kopete yet?

Re:Website information

[Klivian]

The end result is that the average user won't get the information that tells them why

It's a beta and it really tells it all. If you are not interested in helping finding bugs to make the 3.5 release better, this release is not for you. That's essentially what betas are for, not the average user.

Re:3.6?

[m50d]

It's a target for 4.0, since Qt wasn't free on windows before V4. However, there's already a working cygwin version and partial pure native port at http://kde-cygwin.sf.net/

Re:kiolucene vs beagle

[Knome_fan]

kiolucene doesn't search the content of files, so comparing it to beagle is a very stupid attempt a trolling at best.

However, there also is kio_beagle, wich let's you use beagle from within konqueror.
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2 8437

And while we are at it, there is of course kat, which is roughly the kde equivalent to beagle right now. Kat will see a major redisign in the next version according to the developers and will work together with kiolucene.

Re:Better yet...

[Just Some Guy]

Snapshots exist for Qt 4, so why not do a port for that?

Erm, that's what KDE 4 is.

Re:Better yet...

[Bralkein]

KDE 4 has been underway for a little while now, and all of the software is being ported over to Qt 4. If you read this little article, then maybe it will help you see what they're doing.

Re:Wha?

[Nasarius]

Kanzler? I thought Microsoft's beta naming conventions were goofy, but after Mandriva and now Kanzler, I think a torch has been passed.

Like many of their other release names, it's German. And probably a reference to the current election mess in Germany (Kanzler = chancellor).

Re:KDE still has a long way to go!

[Just Some Guy]

However, one thing that tweaks me about both DEs, still, is that they go out and clone xterm. Uuh, why?

<feed object="troll">For starters, because xterm doesn't have tabs. Second, because most people don't want to edit .Xdefaults to change their console font. Those two alone are enough for me.</feed>