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ATI Launches Crossfire... Finally

Steve from Hexus writes "After a long wait, ATI's multi-GPU solution - CrossFire - is finally here. Hexus checks out Crossfire using an X850 Crossfire setup, which can be beaten in performance by a single GeForce 7800 GTX in some games. Too little too late, or will R520 based Crossfire prove more fruitful? Hexus also examines how Crossfire works, how easy it is to setup and what its limitations are with current hardware." Looks very interesting - I'd love to get one for review.

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  1. Argh! by bassgoonist · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Max res of 1600x1200 at 60hz...how...disapointing.

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    1. Re:Argh! by Brain_Recall · · Score: 5, Insightful
      The Inquirer discussed this limitation before. The Crossfire system can do 1920x1200, but only at 52Hz. The SiI 1161 chip on the Crossfire card that merges the two data streams has this bandwidth limitation, and it appears ATi won't be fixing it for awhile.

      Personally, I feel the Crossfire solution has far too many drawbacks for the benifits. Not only do you require a special motherboard, but now you also need a special Crossfire capable video card. The second card can be any card, but the RAM buffer should be the same size, otherwise it will defualt to the lowest value for both cards. The external cable adds some nice external heft to the system, as well.

      So, what do you get over the SLI system? There are added antrisropic filtering methods and increased anti-ailising, but these are already appearing in the latest nVidia drivers. You can use your exisitng card to upgrade to a Crossfire system, but you can already do this with SLI. All in all, the system has it's flaws, too many I think to make it worthwhile.

  2. Dammit by MatD · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why, why, why, can't the editors change the links to use coralcache ? It's retarded that every story on slashdot concerns an article that no one can read. Is it really any wonder that people post without RTFA?

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    1. Re:Dammit by Bronz · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It might be that part of the /. revenue stream is selling subscriptions to people who want to read stories before the servers melt. I'm not saying that's bad, I'm just saying it might partly answer your question.

  3. And what you really need by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful
  4. Re:Oh Boy... by cloudmaster · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I'd imagine they have enough confusion with two people named Steve over there - or one person abusing /. by creating multiple accounts...

  5. Re:what's the deal? by Chaotic+Spyder · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Indeed if you check the e-mail they show the same name steve.Kerrison@hexus.net and steve@stevekerrison.com.. Redicilous

    he even posts right here ... something is fishy..

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  6. Resolution / Refresh Rate Limit by LTC_Kilgore · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I feel that crossfire's biggest flaw is that there is a resolution limit at 1600x1200 @ 60Hz with crossfire enabld.

    The customers who ATI developed this product for (the most rabid and devout hardware addicts with large budgets) most likely have either large CRTs (FW900) or high resolution widescreen LCD's (2405FPW, etc).

    The failure to recognize that these customers would want to run games at their display's native resolution is unexcusable.

    Seriously, why elso would someone drop $1000 to upgrade their graphics hardware if it wasn't so they could run the latest games at high resolution with full detail settings.

    1. Re:Resolution / Refresh Rate Limit by gl4ss · · Score: 2, Insightful

      it doesn't matter that much. not many people are going to buy a crossfire system anyways.

      why? because it sucks ;). that's also why it didn't matter that they didn't get it to market that fast - nobody would have needed it, only reason ati even has it is for PR and feature list.

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  7. Hexus must be happy with /.! by maskedavenger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Two stories on here both from Hexus. Haha. What was the poster thinking?! He wanted hits but now the site is down!

    Crossfire will never work because who would buy a slave card... If you're primary card fails, you're out 2 cards! Ain't that some stuff!

    Oh, and I was an ATI man myself for years. Started before Radeon, now I have a 7800GT and I will never go back... unless they offer me some kind of deal, and buy SLI rights.

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  8. Meh... by ivan256 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Who cares about this stuff other than the tiny portion of the population that will ever use it?

    The whole point of this SLI stuff is marketing. It convinces people to buy a more expensive video card than they otherwise would have so that they can fool themselves into thinking they'll get a huge performance boost a few years down the line when they add a second card on the cheap.

    In reality, when the second card comes down in price, the SLI configuration will be outclassed on the same order of magnitude as the single card alone by the latest stuff, and you'll just end up having to buy a whole new expensive card, or living with slow graphics.

    So unless you've got a boatload of cash and are going to buy two top of the line cards *right now*, it really doesn't matter if either of these manufacturers SLI technology is any good. It's just a marketing gimmick.

  9. Re:Sounds cool, by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Why would a Linux user need a 3D graphics card?

    You do realise a significant proportion of high-end CAD and film animation is done using Linux workstations?

    They've kind of pushed out the old SGI boxes in that they're (a) considerably cheaper, and (b) considerably faster. Have a random example from Google...

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  10. Re:Oh Boy... by PetiePooo · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Happy "Abuse Hexus Day" everyone!

    except its really self-abuse. Anyone else notice both Hexus articles were submitted by Steve Kerrison? That's steve.kerrison@HEXUS.net (or steve@stevekerrison.com) from the Hexus staff

    ... guess its one way to drum up advertising revenue.

  11. Re:Compared to NVidia's Offering by UnrefinedLayman · · Score: 4, Insightful
    The plan is to pick up a second one when the price drops to around $100.
    By the time you pick up a second one for $100 you're going to be a long, long way behind the curve. The GeForce 6800 GT (the previous generation equivalent of your card), released in June of 2004, still retails for $260-$280. Even the vanilla 6800s are ~$175. I would be surprised if you could buy a 9800 Pro for $100.

    SLI is a neat idea if the performance increase is tangible, but considering a single 7800 GTX can outperform an SLI setup of 6800 Ultras in many cases after only one year since the previous generation's release... by the time a 7800 GT is $100, it won't be worth $100 (much like all $100 video cards).
  12. Because they're lazy and contemptuous by MondoMor · · Score: 0, Insightful

    I've written this in other comments and my karma has been oblitterated for it, but the simple answer is:

    They don't give a shit.

    Combine delusions about what Slashdot has become, with deliberate ignorance of how it is affecting the users and linkees, and you get Malda & co's current "service level".

    They don't give a shit about dupes, flamebaiting and inaccurate articlet titles, slashdotting or anything else.

  13. Re:Sounds cool, by Tim+C · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Why would a Linux user need a 3D graphics card? This kind of card is for people that play video games on Windows.

    Actually, a 3d card is for anyone who wants to perform 3d vector operations at a decent rate. The most obvious application of that is 3d graphics, but even that doesn't limit you just to playing games.

    You might as well ask why a Linux user would want sound, or high resolution displays, or a GUI...

  14. Is ATI support on this going to be. . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Is ATI support on this going to be as good as it was for buyers of the ATI Rage Fury, as in:

    1. Hype multi-GPU product up in response to VooDoo SLI solution
    2. Provide decent performance in "ringer" drivers for specific games for reviews
    3. Provide crappy real-world performance
    4. Refuse to improve drivers
    5. Discontinue driver support

    Also, how much support are they going to provide for X.org and other GPL/open source projects? Is it going to be at least as good as Radeon efforts? Oh really, equally as good? Thanks, I'll stick with NVidia. Screw you, ATI.