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The Decline Of The Desktop

Lam1969 writes "Robert Mitchell of Computerworld has written an article about the decline of the desktop in the workplace. He also notes in his blog: 'This theme of 'squeezing' more hours out of workers came up a few times as this story came together. Using technology to increase productivity is a good thing, but in some cases productivity wasn't increasing -- employees were simply expected to work more hours.'" From the article: "After almost a quarter of a century as the personal computing device of choice for business, the desktop PC is sliding off its pedestal. It has withstood assaults by technologies such as the Windows terminal, the Web and the network PC, but the mighty desktop has been humbled by user demand for the one thing it can't deliver -- mobility."

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  1. but desktops can deliver something else... by MoFoQ · · Score: 4, Insightful
    "...user demand for the one thing it can't deliver -- mobility."


    But desktops can deliver a few things that mobiles can't....like not burning your laptop...and the best bang for the buck performance as well as upgradability...though mini-agp and soon to be mini-pcie (?) will help notebooks with some of that. :p
    1. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by Toddlerbob · · Score: 5, Insightful
      "It has withstood assaults by technologies such as the Windows terminal, the Web and the network PC, but the mighty desktop has been humbled by user demand for the one thing it can't deliver -- mobility."

      But desktops can deliver a few things that mobiles can't....like not burning your laptop...and the best bang for the buck performance as well as upgradability...though mini-agp and soon to be mini-pcie (?) will help notebooks with some of that

      I agree.

      To me, the original statement seems backwards. Users have always wanted mobility, but it's only lately that PDA's and laptops, etc. have finally delivered the capability to do want you want with them, and yet have them be mobile. So it's not humbled by mobility so much as the maturation of mobile technologies.

    2. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by cafucu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      the best bang for the buck performance as well as upgradability...though mini-agp and soon to be mini-pcie (?) will help notebooks with some of that.

      I know of very few people or companies that actually upgrade their PCs. It's usually more worth it to do an entire system upgrade. I doubt that the new laptop modularity will convince people to make much use of it--they'd rather ebay their old box and buy a new one.

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    3. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by gcw1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Desktop computers will always have a place in certain areas. For instance I'm the technician for a hospital and a lot of the computer users never have any need to work from home. No reason to spend more money on a laptop that will never leave the desk. People who are on the move will require some sort of mobile tool... be it laptop, cell phone, pda etc. The best tool to fit the position.

    4. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by MoFoQ · · Score: 3, Insightful

      oops...meant to type "lap" not "laptop"...well I guess "lap top" is ok too.

      but some times....the purpose of a notebook/laptop is portability...like u are on the bus or train or somewhere and there's no counter-top or table-top and u have to use your lap....

      anyways...laptops are nice...but I don't expect it to replace desktops...and I don't expect desktops to replace laptops either...it's like the same reason why a multi-tool hasn't replaced non-multitools yet...aka...the reason why the gatorgrip thing on TV hasn't caused everyone to stop buying Craftsman tool sets.

      of course, because of the price factor of laptops/notebooks, ppl don't tend to upgrade or replace that often compared to desktops where many parts from a desktop can be reused (like the monitor for one).

    5. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by MoFoQ · · Score: 2, Insightful

      really? companies are more likely to upgrade the entire system or like our company use parts from it to build "new" systems.

      You can't really do that with notebooks...parts aren't that inter-swappable.

      Plus an entirely new system doesn't mean that they also replace the keyboard/mice, monitor and other peripherals.

    6. Re:but desktops can deliver something else... by mgv · · Score: 4, Insightful

      But desktops can deliver a few things that mobiles can't....like not burning your laptop...and the best bang for the buck performance as well as upgradability...though mini-agp and soon to be mini-pcie (?) will help notebooks with some of that. :p

      The main reason that laptops are being used more and more is that they are good enough. There are always going to be people who just want the most GigaFlops per second. The vast majority of users now dont. They want their computer to do a certain number of things. I'm sure that you don't need me to spell out the list, but email/web/word processing would be a good start.

      Once you can do those things, and on a portable machine that doesn't dim every light in the house when you turn it on, the assessment changes. Its strange how you list heat generatiion/power consumption as a factor that counts in favour of desktops. For most people, a low power computer that is portable and doesn't dominate a room has alot of upside. The fact that they are designed to be low power is a big bonus.

      And realistically, everything about desktop computers has gotten smaller over the last 20 years. Just look at the Mac Mini, or even the smaller form factor PC's. These weren't possible 20 years ago. Today, you can't buy anything in the original form factors of the IBM PC's (to my knowledge). Your choice is beoming between a small desktop or a laptop, with a big case system really being reserved for the top end.

      Get used to it. 50% of users is just the beginning. It will be 90% soon enough, especially with the next increment in storage (particularly flash), CPU (Low leakage chips with ultra low power consumption) and portable networking speeds (WiMax in particular). Thats not even counting things like digital paper which will drive down power consumption even more. With all this, the number of people who will be saying that they need a desktop to provide some extra functionality they can't get in a laptop is going to fall to a very low percentage of users.

      As for upgradeability, you only upgrade because you feel that your current machine doesn't do as much as you would like it to. If you feel that it does everything you want, the need to replace components becomes less compelling for the average user.

      Michael

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  2. Old news by /ASCII · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Yeah yeah, mobility will kill desktop PCs, it's been around the corner fro what? Half a decade? As soon as the next generation of shiny CDMA connections or mobile phones or ultralight laptops or desktop replacement laptops or mobile phones or Starbucks comfy chars launch, the desktop PC will be nothing but a memory. There are some things that never change:
    • Broadband over powerlines is just around the corner
    • The desktop PC is dying

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  3. Netcraft confirms it by Fastball · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The desktop is dead...

    You can have mine and my dual 20.1" LCDs when you pry them from my cold dead fingers. That and when I can mix and match parts (i.e. upgrade) a notebook to meet my needs.

  4. You wonder why? by cheier · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Offices aren't just trying to get more people working more hours at the office. The push for the Centrino platform by Intel has probably started to convince employees and employers that the life of a worker exists solely to the company.

    Give them a laptop and they shal work at home in the off hours, or even on vacation.

  5. Re:Well, not really... by temojen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you're sitting in one place long enough to play a game for 3 hours, plug it in.

  6. It's the song that never ends... by Skye16 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I've heard it all before. I'm sure I'll continue hearing it for quite some time.

    Do we really need to hear about it from every semi-random schmuck with a blog, though? Consoles are killing the gaming pc and laptops are killing the home pc. And we'll hear about it again next year. And the year after that. And the year after that.

    I guess I just can't see a family giving up a non-mobile, non-delicate system the entire family can use (from 4 years old and onward) to something that will invariably find itself cartwheeling down a flight of steps because little susie and little billy weren't careful enough. Or letting their teenage son take the home laptop into his bedroom to "do homework" late at night *cough*.

    I could see it being something the adults would be interested in - but as a replacement of the home PC? That's incredibly hard to believe - no matter how many times I hear it.

    You are free, of course, to test the strength of that statement by duping this article tomorrow. I'm sure it'd give everyone something to bitch about :)

    Really, though. Call me whenever there are more laptops in homes than PCs. Call me when owning a PC becomes a niche market. Then you can tell me all about it. Until then, let's simmer the conjecture down a bit, shall we? The first time, not so bad, the second time, meh, the third time...starting to get annoying, and now, the 82nd time... well... yeah.

    1. Re:It's the song that never ends... by Stickney · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Here's an idea:
      "Consoles are killing the gaming pc"
      Or are they becoming the same thing? The upcoming consoles (xBox360 especially comes to mind) have all the media qualities of a home pc that a gamer would use when not gaming, and internet capability was included in the last generation consoles. Honestly, what's the real difference between the gaming PC and the console now? It's just a bunch of extra software and some few odd hardware pieces that make the gaming PC vastly more expensive, or with the "full" xBox360, not so much more expensive, once you include the cost of the TV. Add keyboard/mouse/USB ports to a console, and you'll have a PC!

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  7. Death of the PC again? by UnapprovedThought · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This reminds me of the time some years ago when "the death of the PC" was imminent. Well, there was a lot of hand-wringing over it, but it doesn't look like that came true.

    On what grounds to they predict this one besides the mantra that the network is the computer and you will be doing all of your surfing through a tiny phone, when a lot of people tell me they just want a phone to be a phone, not a magic wand with worse sound quality than a turn of the previous-century aliminum drum?

  8. Both worlds: Powerbook + Cinema display by G4from128k · · Score: 2, Insightful

    My wife uses a small 12" powerbook attached to a large 22" cinema display for a good combo of mobile usability and desktop usability. The DVI port on that laptop means she's not cramped by the 12" screen most of the time. And the 12" size/ 4.5 lb weight makes for better portability.

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  9. Tech reporters trolling? by zappepcs · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This topic has been coming up since the advent of the mobile computer. There are definitive reasons, both business and technological, for using either a desktop or a laptop.

    Things to consider:
    Is the user mobile often enough to warrant the cost and risks?
    Is the user likely to damage, lose, or steal it?
    Is the user likely to lose, damage, or sell company information?

    People who work in call centers are not likely to warrant the cost and risk of a laptop. At least not yet. 'Green' PCs and monitors mean that laptops don't save that much energy, and risk of theft or damage is higher when using laptops for non-mobile users. Additionally, upgrades and change out programs are much more expensive.

    Using laptops and mobile devices increases the risks: financial, corporate IP theft or sale, information loss, productivity loss, risk of loss of functionality when the IT department isn't there to support it, and many other things.

    What I basically feel is that this article, while posing some good points, is just a troll dressed in sheep's clothing. Hardware choices make sense in view of, and in combination with the domain of their use. If that domain is airplanes and hotel rooms, definitely a laptop. If that domain is strictly a cubicle - no laptop. If the domain is mixed, business reasoning comes into play. For personal use, style has its say in that choice too.

    A poor analogy is that a 4wheel drive is good to have when you are fjording rivers. But if you are just commuting to work then a Hummer is a bad idea... no matter what size bear you are.

    Wow, so the article points out that now computers can be mobile... not a lot to see here, move along.

  10. Re:Well, not really... by ant_slayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    2 or 3 hours max while playing something like WoW?

    Well... for WoW there're A/C power adapters. I suppose that would be annoying if you wanted to play WoW at a picnic down by the lake. For me, however, when I was moving and had no phone line (let alone an Internet connection), I was mooching off of Panera and friends for a couple weeks. I was very pleased to find that Panera does provide access to the power grid.

    I know that the percentage of Americans who own computers crossed the half-way mark in 2000 -- I don't know what the number is now. But I sure as heckfire know that nowhere near 50% of Americans play WoW (only 1.5M worldwide). It's almost as if there are other things to do with a computer...

    Ant Slayer

  11. Re:Is mobility overrated? by Surt · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The reason many people want laptops is not to be tied to work at any time, but to be freed from the need to be in the office. Many computer workers can work just as effectively from the location of their choice with a laptop. From another state, another country, to the park down the street. Think of a laptop as a massive upgrade in the quality of your workspace, better than the corner office on the top floor.

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  12. Now I can tell who's not a parent! by Travoltus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    A laptop maxes out at 15 pounds for last generation's biggest and fattest. Ever been a parent with an infant over 2 months old? They're far heavier and they squirm. And they like to be held. A LOT. :D

    That off-topic point aside, I would suggest you never be wired into your job when you're out with your laptop off hours. Also, I use my laptop to jot down ideas when I'm writing, and it also carries my music and quite a few anime movies. I could of course use a really expensive and high-end PDA to do this too, but I can more readily install RedHat on my laptop than my PDA. Being that my laptop is not a gaming machine it provides me with a fairly distraction-free environment to write my stories, do homework, etc.

    That being said, I'd be mad pissed if desktops went away. I use a workstation styled desktop machine at home to play games, especially real time simulators (warcraft, starcraft, etc) that no console can possibly work well with (try moving a dozen individual units around different places with any level of agility with a PS2 / Xbox controller... please, do!). My desktop machine also serves as a highly agile archive system with 2 DVD burners and several terabytes of firewire HD space online. I can back up stuff off my laptop to my desktop machine and so on.

    To me, the relationship between the laptop and the desktop is my laptop is my starship and my desktop is my starbase. I would not desire a computer market in which the former or the latter has been deprecated.

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  13. 1986 called - they want their myths back. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Uh huh. The desktop is dying... You know what? Just this morning, I bought a new 250GB HDD and installed it.

    Took me about half an hour to drive to the store and back, and about five minutes to install the harddrive (of which I spent about three minutes with plugging and unplugging my world's favorite fire hazard, aka all the wires behind my desk).

    That's it. Easy-peasy-Japanesy. Sure you can upgrade the your laptop's problem (usually without opening the case) and switch out your old harddrive but you can't just add a new one, and chances are you'll end up paying a pretty penny for your 2.5" laptop HDD.

    My point? There's a place for laptops and there's a place for desktops. There is a growing number of people who can do without a desktop computer, yeah, but the vast majority have both, a laptop and a desktop machine.

    A laptop is never going to replace my desktop computer.

  14. Killing desktops, but not workstations... by Aphrika · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Laptops are killing desktops for knowledge workers for one reason; keeping your data with you wherever you are. Ten or more years ago you'd find people went to work, worked, then went home again. However, it's not the laptop per se that's killed off the desktop, it's peripheral advances like wireless technology, increased mobile bandwidth and minaturisation that have done this. Wireless is without a doubt the number one reason why laptops boomed massively in the last 3 or so years.

    Mobile technology also means a mobile workforce. I currently deal with around 250+ users across three locations. A lot of the supplemental departments (finance, HR, operations) move between sites and visit clients, and it's easier for them to take their whole work environment with them than mess about with software licenses, having redundant desktops lying dormant for 50% of the time etc. etc.

    Granted, it's great from their point of view, but laptops are a much bigger concern for IT departments like ours, especially when they get lugged home, used on broadband conections or used on a VPN connection. They're also a pain to keep updated as users tend to move around more - maybe even connect to client networks that don't have the same level of security. In the long run though, we'd rather supply them with a manageable device like a laptop rather than have them mess around with assorted PDAs and smartphones. laptops also have a more tangible value associated with them, so in 99% of cases you don't get silly accidents.

    That said, the laptop may be killing off the humble desktop, but it will never kill off the workstation. For other departments - CGI, storyboard, development, edit etc. - a laptop simply would never cut it. Lots of nearline storage (TB+), colour-matched dual monitors, renderfarms and gigs of RAM are things I'd never want to lug around in a laptop. I know some people will say it can be done, but I would hate to ever consider cutting broadcast quality video and audio on a laptop. It's also important to note that these people don't need to take their data with them. They aren't 'knowledge workers' like the others, but employed to utilise their skills on the material in situ.

    That said, laptops still have a long way to go before they approach the reliability of a desktop - I think we get a fourfold increase in failures on laptops generally.

  15. Advice for computer professionals by Work+Account · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1.) Leave work at work.

    2.) The last thing you should do when you get home is hop onto your personal computer, but that's what many of us do. We want to do email/IM/blog but it's the last thing we should be doing.

    3.) Find hobbies that have nothing to do with technology. Ride bikes, run, lift weights, camp, geocache, buy a gun, get a significant other if you don't have one, or if you do spend more time with them.

    4.) Most of all just stay well-rounded. In all aspects of your life. Keep a balance (no I'm not religious but yes this is similar to some Ancient Eastern philosophies/religions).

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  16. Re:the Wireless tech by joebagodonuts · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Have them work while they're sick at home? Amazing. I notice you weren't suggesting you could work while you were sick at home.

    It also ties in to the point from the author's blog, that laptops were sometimes used to get people to work more hours.

    I'd like to see a manager look at productivity. Amount and quality of work being completed, vs amount of hours one's direct reports are at their desks. Old ideas are hard to let go of.

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  17. Re:Nah... by DarkProphet · · Score: 2, Insightful
    I must be the exception... I have a newish 3.0Ghz Athlon / 512MB / 360GB desktop that I almost never use at all, in favor of my 2 year old 1.4Ghz / 512MB / 60G Centrino laptop.

    But then, I prefer to pound out code at my local coffeeshop instead of at home. Surprisingly, there seems to be less distraction at the coffeeshop than at home ;-) But even when at home, I prefer the laptop. The only reasons I can think for the preference is that

    • CRT monitors hurt my eyes and I can't afford a desktop LCD monitor and,
    • I like my laptop's keyboard better than any desktop keyboard I can find... it just has the right kind of tactile response.


    The desktop machine has been relegated to long-term file storage since it has a crappy Intel graphics chipset and is no good for games.
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  18. Re:Well, not really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Not to mention that laptops are chock-full-O-proprietary-technology. I recommend not buying a laptop unless you absolutely need mobility. Don't just go and buy a laptop as a desktop replacement if you don't need to be mobile. Channel suppliers (all of the "distributors") are trying to be the Dell's of the white box channel at this point in time taking the major component integration role away from VARs (note that THEY are providing the warrantees rather than the VAR, that should clue you in on their motives: to make VARS nothing more than salespersons for THEIR notebook PC business). Until notebook/laptop technology evolves to a standardized platform like the desktop is (interchangeable motherboards, optical drives etc.), I suggest staying away from them. If you must have one, get a good warranty cuz fixing that bugger is going to be expensive if it breaks. DIY's stay away from laptop/notebook PCs.

  19. Hell yeah by attemptedgoalie · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I run dual 20's as well.

    The desktop has its place. The notebook has its place.

    The people I work with all want the superchief notebooks with 17" screens. I want the lightest, smallest one I can get. If I have to use a notebook in a meeting, fine. But when I get back, I want usable desktop space. No missing emails because it was under the document I'm writing. Video conferencing on one screen while working on the other.

    No other way.

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  20. Re:the Wireless tech by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Strain your brains a little and imagine being being not sick enough to be unable to work but courteous enough not to infect your office.

  21. Re:Well, not really... by temojen · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Not much fast, low latency internet access either, so playing MMORPGs on aircraft is out.

  22. Re:Well, not really... by Lobo42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you're on an airplane, you're probably not playing a MMORPG like the aforementioned World of Warcraft.