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U.S. Insists On Keeping Control Of Internet
veggie boy writes "A U.S. official strongly objected to any notion of a U.N. body taking control of the domain servers that direct traffic on the Internet." From the article: "'We will not agree to the U.N. taking over the management of the Internet,' said Ambassador David Gross, the U.S. coordinator for international communications and information policy at the State Department. 'Some countries want that. We think that's unacceptable.' Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control, which stems from the country's role in creating the Internet as a Pentagon project and funding much of its early development."
Because, you know, the UN is so effective at doing this sort of thing.
on keeping control of Al-Quaeda.
Remember: F The President.
Sincerely,
Kilgore Trout, C.E.O.
The US has the knowledge to keep it running, the equipment, the infrastructure, etc... Letting other countries in on the goods would absolutley ruin the Internet. The Internet is a privledge, not a right. These coutries should be very flattered that we even let them in on the act. It's not simply a matter of the US being greedy with the thing, we are afraid of what could happen if ran by someone else.
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Really? Where were the blue helmets in Darfur? And how many died in Rwanda while the world watched?
I'm not sure that the UN works fairly well for anything other than funneling Iraqi oil contracts to political cronies of Kofi Annan, Jacques Chirac, etc. "No war" for oil, indeed.
Rather UN than USA which is a far from fee and democratic. It's corrupt legal and political system is many times worse than UN. No thanks! I prefer UN over USA. A country where schools want to teach creationism and were a White House political staffer were arrested in the West Wing and lead out in handcufss, doesn't instill any confidence in me.
If you mod me down, I *will* introduce you to my sister!
"Exactly! Libya hasn't supported or condoned anything like as many human rights abuses as the United States!"
Does Libya's working toward its foreign policy goal of exterminating the Jews in Israel count? I guess not. If it is against Jews, it is not a human rights violation.
It makes folks in poor countries broke. Finacially.
One that hath name thou can not otter
So... what country would you recommend then? Since you obviously think the U.S. shouldn't, then you obviously know who should.
iii) As a Brit, I applaud the current essentially hands-off control the US has. We get all the benefits, US tax payers cover the actual cost.
Great. So you and your fellows can use that cost savings to get your teeth fixed.
Many countries, particularly developing ones, have become increasingly concerned about the U.S. control,
And here I thought all the toplevel root DNS servers and domain registration was done in Canada.
Shows what I know.
I must agree though, that most of "The Internet" (in the form of infrastructure) is in North America. For the most part, it works. Why invite an opportunity to screw it up?
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The organization that put Libya in charge of human rights. Yes, Brilliant.
What are the following words associated to?
US, Human Rights, Guantanamo
You get the point? I don't believe the US is better or worse then Libya. I just have the impression there is a liberal interpretation going on about wrong or right, depending on the interests of some people.
I could have post this anonymously, but this is not a troll or a flamebait.
We're the best constitutional republic. Our republic comes with principles attached that will continue to make it superior to any democracy for as long as the individual remains the primary.
If the Internet becomes some UN program I'm sure the same well connected dudes who ran oil for food programs would dig their nails into this program and run it into the ground. I bet Kofi's lubing up his son for another run at corruption.
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Flawed reasoning. Your argument incorrectly assumes that the poster was talking about European countries when, in fact, the poster's point was that the US is not the only county centrally founded on individual liberties and moreover, in recent years the US has, compared to similar individual liberty countries, curtailed individual liberties a considerable, and surprising, amount.
Your one sentence reply also contained an ad hominem attack. (That's bad.)
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What we know as "the internet" today was developed by the US
The majority of users are from the US
The majority of sites are in the US
The majority of commerce originates and is utilized by the US
The majority of the infrastructure is based in the US
The majority of the infrastructure providers are in the US (hardware)
Fine, make a new network that is owned and operated exsclusively by USA and you can keep all control you want, just don't try to hook it up internationally.
Hey, we allowed others to hook into "the internet", not the other way around. The rest of the world is playing in the US sandbox, if other nations don't like it, they should just disconnect and start their own.
Before the inevitable US bashing starts,
You spelled "UN" wrong.
-russ
Don't piss off The Angry Economist
Mmm. Unlike European nations. Those bastions of freedom and liberty...
I'm amazed at the stupidity and arrogance of Europeans sometimes. Look, the US ins't perfect. We know this. It never has been. It's *always* been partisan with two parties. It's always had infighting. There has always been corruption.
What's layed down in the constitution and the talk of Freedom are the *ideals* toward which we try to strive. Nobody I know from the US ever claimed that we met those ideals on all accounts. Christ, we had *slavery* up until the mid 1800's! But it's better to have an ideal to strive towards than a reality IMHO. Always set your goals beyond your reach. This is why the equal rights advocates had the *constitution* to hold up while marching. This is how the government can be pulled back into check when necessary. It's own charter demands it. Your nation may set down "realistic" goals and you may acheive them. We'll try to do better than that.
Things wax and wane in the US. Throughout our history there have been power-grabs and loss of power. Rapid change and conservative movements. Think of a pendulum. Europeans seem to think that "conflict" is by nature a bad thing. We see it as necessary and the natural order of life. If you don't have conflict, how can you expect change for the better?
Not that you'll listen. I'll probably get some remark about how "Bush is the anti-christ" or some such, and that I'm really not as Free as Europeans (tried selling your Nazi memorabilia in France lately?). We're taking an active part in the world now too (since WWII). We've seen how Europe runs things and we believe it's our turn and we can do better. Or would you rather we just sit and wait until Europe tries to destroy itself or conquor the world yet again?
NB. I won't reply to any responses to this. Just thought I'd rant a bit. I'm just sick of haughty Europeans calling *me* arrogant...
"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"
- Charles Darwin
Dear world,
Go fuck yourself.
Love,
USA
Tell that to the indesirables that got a nice acid bath or a luxurious trip to the woodchipper. Or how about the people that got chemical weapons used on them? The worst that happens to insurgents now is getting forced to be in prank photos or being lead to believe they might be electrocuted (even though they really were not). Personally I think those people deserved a bullet in the head not a Koran, a hot meal, and a place to stay. For crying out loud, the last thing we should be giving religious extremists is a Koran. It out and out tells them to kill the infidels (that'd be us.)
Though, this being slashdot, I'm sure most of the other leftist anti-American trolls on this site will agree with you.
Yeah, when you Indians have more than a 50% literacy rate (meaning people that can actually READ), and you've supplied indoor plumbing, electrical power, refrigeration and clean water to virtually your whole population (as we in the U.S. have for most of the last century) THEN you can talk trash.
In the meantime, you don't have any bragging rights. Sorry about that.
Farewell! It's been a fine buncha years!
Sweden is communist now. You are getting rid of your nuclear power, and doing communist things. And you have harsh gun laws. Communist.
I mourn the death of Sweden - Sweden was an OK place.
Also, I am PISSED off at you for World War II, you pussies stood around and let the Finnish get fucked in the ass by the Nazis.
So now I hate you, VIKLAS. You are a former Fascist loving communist traitor.
I'll whip your fucking ass in Jeopardy. The only thing you know that I don't is how to talk in that fucking gay language herde gerde heepe nordi Swedish chef language.
THE USA is going to Invade Islam (Is-Slum fucking disgusting rapists). When Islam starts to try and spread, we will contain it like the communists. While the Swedish WERE good at business, we were out doing the hard work, containing the Fascist Nazis SWEDEN SUPPORTED, we contained the USSR and now we will STOP ISLAM and give the CHICOMS a thing or two to think about.
Death to CHINA's communists!
Death to ILSAM!
And FUCK your FUCKING propaganda. FUCK YOU. The internet, which the USA constructed, makes anyone willing to look they can see ANY NEWS IN ANY LAGUAGE YOU DUMB FUCKING ASSHOLE.
FUCK OFF WITH THE PROPAGANDA BULLSHIT, NO ONE REALLY LISTENS TO THE FUCKING TV NEWS.
So yes, the world is a pissing contest because the USA sees it that way. Now just because you have a small flaccid penis on your disgusting fat body, doesn't mean I have to give a FUCK.
I won! The crowd goes wild! AHHHHHH. SHHHHHH. AHHHHHHHH!
Your problem is that you don't recognize that free speech is a fundamental human right not to be rationalized away for political convenience. The Chinese government makes a similar argument that Chinese citizens' right to national security is more important than their right to speak freely (which they, like Canada, recognize on paper). Any arguments for limiting free speech are irrelevant. Your nation's government violates its citizens' rights in a way our government does not.
/.? It it a monolithic, ultra-partisan, one party system where everyone toes the government line and only attacks the perceived enemy of social justice, the environment, and everything right and good in the world, i.e. the US Republican party? Or is it a more Orwellian system where you defend your rights one day, then defend court decisions removing them from you the next?)
(Why is it that Canadians never speak out in dissent against their government on