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Mobile Phones Locked By DMCA

wellington map writes "A mobile phone company is arguing that companies that unlock their handsets violate the DMCA. They argue that the software on the phone is a copyrighted work, and the unlocker is breaking DRM in a way that violates the statutory prohibition on circumvention. A similar claim by Lexmark, which tried to apply it to people who refilled printer cartridges, has recently been rejected by the courts." From the Wired article: "The financial motive behind this claim is obvious. Companies have been using the razor blade business model to guarantee a steady stream of revenue ever since, well, the razor blade. Cell phone companies sell you a phone at a discount, and then make up the difference by requiring you to sign a multi-year contract promising to pay monthly fees for mobile phone service or to fork over a hefty termination penalty if you break the deal. But many customers, particularly those who travel internationally, want more choice."

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  1. Another BoingBoing story... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 5, Informative


    Story lifted directly from BoingBoing. Even the quote from Wired was lifted directly from the BoingBoing story.

    See the BoingBoing story here.

    As for the 'razor blade' argument cited in TFA, the reason it works for razor blades is because they're cheap...too cheap for people to 'mod' their razors to be able to accept other, cheaper razor blades. This model simply doesn't apply in the world of printer cartridges and cell phones...since it's worth the expense. Lexmark increased the expense by implementing the 'handshake' between the cartridge and the printer, but circumventing that proved to be worth the expense as well. When Lexmark attempted to invoke DMCA they got slapped down, and rightly so.

    The point is, if I own a product, be it cellphone, printer, or razor, it is mine. The courts ultimately ruled against Lexmark in this matter, and I expect (and hope) that they will rull against the cellphone companies as well.

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    1. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by sznupi · · Score: 4, Informative

      I guess it does...in Poland, I bought my phone for nothing while signing contract. For 2 years (time of contract), I'm supposed not to mess with mine (yes, mine) phone or I'll loose warranty...however there DOES exist another network, very cheap, which I can use. Now the best part: after 2 years, I can go to my initiall operator, the one who sold me phone, and they'll unlock it almost for nothing.

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    2. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by TheDawgLives · · Score: 3, Informative
      Problem is, if you out and out buy your phone they still lock it.

      Actually, if you out and out buy your phone directly from the manufacturer, they don't lock it. When you buy it from the cell phone company, even if you pay more to not be locked into a contract, they are still giving you a discount over what you would pay the manufacturer directly.

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    3. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by GoodNicsTken · · Score: 2, Informative

      Put it all on the table. By Cellphone Company, they mean Cingular/ATT. I just switched to T-Mobile for this very reason. T-mobile provided me an unlock code so I could get a local number while in Brazil for 10 days.

      It just so happens Cingular/ATT have the lowest raitings for service and customer satisfaction in the industry. Who is surprised they want to lock customers into their network?

      (I'm not affiliated with any of the companies above, I work for a vendor who sells equipment to all of them so their networks can run better!)

    4. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by squiggleslash · · Score: 2, Informative
      I've gone directly to Motorola and asked them their policy on this. The response (including spelling or grammar mistake):

      Dear Mr. (<i>my name</i>),

      Thank you for your recent correspondence with Motorola.

      Regarding your question, we do not sale unlock units from our web page or from our customer care department.

      However, you are able to purchase this units from after markets web pages

      Thank you for allowing us to be of your service, if you need further assistance please do not hesitate to contact us again or visit our web page (www.motorola.com -If you cannot hiperlink, please copy/paste the link into your browser ). You are also able to contact our Customer Care Department at 1-800-331-6456 for further assistance.

      Best Regards,

      Auto-Response - 06/07/2004 01:55 PM
      So, nah, you can't always go directly to the manufacturer. Nokia USA's website tends to be inconsistant on the subject, usually they'll not sell phones without subsidy locks unless you really, genuinely, cannot buy the phone at all from any US mobile operator. I was able to buy a 9290 from them that was unlocked, but most of the phones aren't in the same position.

      Either way, it's worth mentioning that the current situation that exists is that the vast majority of US mobile operators do the following:

      1. All new activations require the purchase of a cellphone, unless you really want to go around the houses to do it and even them some operators simply will not let you, period. I think it's possible to get a prepay SIM from T-Mobile, but that's about it. I tried getting a GoPhone PAYG SIM card from Cingular recently and you just couldn't do it.

      2. Almost all cellphones are subsidy locked.

      3. Several cellphones are exclusive to specific carriers. You can't get a RAZR BLK for T-Mobile or unlocked for instance (though if you're feeling brave you can import them or buy from a seller of imported phones. However, note that if a cellphone is available in a Tri-Band version, the imported versions are always 1900/1800/900, even though the US version is 1900/1800/850, which means the imports will not get coverage in key Cingular markets. This doesn't affect the RAZR, which is Quad-band, but does most other "world" phones)

      4. You can't get cheaper service by offering to subsidize your own cellphone (see (1) above), the carriers just will not do it. Rates do not drop after a year. Everything possible is done to lock you into contracts that typically last two years (though T-Mobile "only" limits its to a year.)

      So, whatever happens, if the phone you want isn't available for your carrier and/or you want an unlocked phone, you can expect to pay full price for it and pay to subsidize a phone you don't want, need, or, if you put a lot of effort into it, never bought in the first place. Unfortunately, consumer protection and pro-competition laws are generally considered anti-business in the US, and it's in the carrier's best interests individually to play this game while all of their rivals are, so I don't see this situation improving any time soon.

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    5. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by nickname225 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Actually - you own the phone from the moment you get it. The law of sales in monst states says that the sale is complete as soon as there is agreement on the thing and the price - even if the thing has not been delivered or the price paid. Ownership transfers on agreement. So you own the phone immediately - if you destroy it the cell company doesn't have an action against you for damages. The terms under which you buy the phone include a penalty for canceling the contract early - but this in no way effects your ownership.

    6. Re:Another BoingBoing story... by Alioth · · Score: 2, Informative

      I bought my Nokia 6820 in the United States. Tri band GSM phone. It wasn't locked. I could then just buy a SIM card and put it in.

  2. Check the direction by Geekboy(Wizard) · · Score: 3, Informative

    boingboing linked to the Wired article. So of course they would have the exact same quote.

    1. Re:Check the direction by pokka · · Score: 2, Informative

      That doesn't excuse the submitter from plagiarizing the non-quoted part of the boingboing article (and he was quoted almost verbatim - the first two sentences are identical). Regardless of how easy it might be to write copy, it's still someone's work and should at least have been attributed to its author.

  3. Getting things confused by scronline · · Score: 3, Informative

    Mobile phone companies means manufacturers. Why then, was mobile phone service providers talked about in the article? They actually lose money on the phones or make such a small amount they would prefer to just sign you up for the contract. It's the phone manufacturer that wants to be able to sell you the phone for a different service provider. I just felt I needed to say that. I really dislike disinformation...which is why I don't watch the news.

  4. The right to unlock has precedent by erroneus · · Score: 5, Informative

    Back when there was but one Bell telephone, there arose an issue with "Other than Bell" equipment on a Bell phone line. If I understand how the story goes, it went to the supreme court and they said "people have the right to use any phone they like and should not be locked into buying from a monopolistic vendor."

    These locked phones are essentially the same thing where they are using this practice as a means to keep people from migrating from one service to another. It also serves to prevent any resale value for any equipment that someone may own which is also bad for the consumer.

    This situation, if tested is court, will be an easy win for the consumer. I have no doubt on that.

  5. Strange. by thelonestranger · · Score: 4, Informative

    I've had two phones from Vodaphone and two from T-mobile, my girlfriend has had one from Vodaphone & 2 from O2. None of these phones was ever locked and we were free to put a SIM from another network into these phones at anytime. The only time I've seen locked phones on contracts is with Orange and Virgin. A good rule of thumb is that if the handset your buying/getting on contract has a network providers logo printed on it the its more than likely locked. This seems to be the case with all Pay As You Go phones and Orange contract phones.

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  6. T-Mo will unlock after 90 days by winkydink · · Score: 2, Informative

    if you ask them.

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  7. Why are phones locked in the first place? by kinglink · · Score: 2, Informative

    have any of you ever tried to buy a phone from motorola directly? You can't. They don't sell them like that. Personally I'd rather buy phones from the makers, instead of the insanely marked up phones they sell the contracts with.

    Phone's cost, 50-100 dollars.
    Mark up to make profit 10-20 dollars.
    Mark Up by companies to make contracts appealing, 50-100 dollars.

    It's a bullshit industry because every cellular company is out there to get you into contracts by offering new phones instead of keeping a good old phone. That's one of the reasons T-mobile appeals to me and others, because they offer short 1 year contracts. Hopefully that one company won't change.

  8. T-Mobile by tivoKlr · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interesting, the nameless operator is most likely NOT T-Mobile, as I have been a customer with them for several years, and they will unlock your phone FOR you for FREE, just by emailing them and asking them to do so.

    There are some limitations, like you have to have been a customer for 90 days, in good standing, etc. but if you email them and ask them to send you the unlock code, they will do so in a couple of days.

    They have unlocked several Nokias for me in the past.

    Just my experience.

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  9. Re:Sounds good to me by ThogScully · · Score: 3, Informative
    Um...here in the States, such a phone is more like the mythical Unicorn. We don't have the luxury of taking our phones with us when we switch providers. heck we've only had number portability for a couple years now!

    I am in the States and I wouldn't consider a non-GSM phone. If you don't choose to use a better GSM provider using GSM phones, that's your own problem. I've been with Voicestream and now T-Mobile for years. I've taken my phone all over the world and used it on carriers in other countries with prepaid SIM cards when I've been away on longer trips. It's not locked and works on any GSM network in the world and can be serviced by any GSM provider's service.

    -N

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  10. Re:I don't get it by Chyeld · · Score: 2, Informative

    Because it's not just unlocking your phone to use other networks, it's unlocking features such as custom ring tones, unrestricted bluetooth, and etc., which the networks normally charge hefty fee for limited use of.

    I hope that this gets slapped silly in court. If the networks want to control my phone they need to either rent it to me, actually sell me a phone which isn't capable of doing the things they don't want me to be capable of, or actually write into the contract that I won't do certain things while the contract lasts.

  11. Re:Sounds good to me by pla · · Score: 2, Informative

    If I don't use the copyrighted part, then no problem, correct?

    That depends on the primary use of the object, and the degree to which the copyrighted part exists as central to the use of the object.

    With a stick, the DNA might count as absolutely unavoidably bound to the object, but the specifics have very little bearing on the stick's functionality.

    With a CD, the music on it, although potentially removeable (in the case of a CD-RW, anyway), counts as the entire reason you would buy the CD in the first place. Its form as a 12cm plastic disc with a hole in the middle very, very rarely matters.

    Now, with a cell phone? Not many people care about the specific software it runs, only about its function. But without some software, it doesn't function.

    Personally, I would put cell phones in the CD category - Legitimate posession of the physical device should (but all to often doesn't) count as an implied, irrevokeably license to use the copyrighted content contained therein, including the right to change that content at will. If a company doesn't want customers to use feature-X of their product, they need to leave feature-X out rather than just disabling it in software.


    But, we live in this world, not a perfect one.

  12. Re:Either accept it is locked in or pay full price by Jon_Hanson · · Score: 2, Informative

    No. As has been stated earlier, whether or not you unlock your phone has no effect on still being bound by the terms of your contract. If you unlock your phone for the purposes of changing carriers before your current contract is up then you still have to pay the early termination fee where the carrier would recoup their subsidy (and then some, I'm guessing).