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Music Industry Threatens to Pull Plug on Apple

bacterial_pus writes "First the music industry wanted more money, by changing Apple's 99 cents per song policy. Now one exec is threatening to pull the plug on Apple if Steve Jobs doesn't change the iTunes Music Store pricing." From the article: "Nash's comments echoes those made last week by Warner CEO Edgar Bronfman, who called for Apple to adopt variable pricing and share out revenues from iPod sales. The record companies' position is based on the dubious argument that digital downloads sell iPods. In fact all the evidence points to the opposite: that iPod sales have driven demand for downloads. The vast majority of digital music sales are made by iPod owners. Cut off Apple and the labels digital sales will slump." More recently Jobs resisted their pressure, and the execs snarked back. Looks like they're getting more serious.

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  1. Quotable quotes by M00NIE · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Quoted from the article: 'What if Jobs says 39 cents or 29 cents per download - what then?'

    *gasp* MORE people might actually BUY your music... NO the humanity, the HUGE MANATEE!

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  2. Yeah, right by rjung2k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How many hits does the iTunes Music Store get in a day?

    Hell, how many does it get in an hour?

    Good luck walking away from that, Mr. Nash...

  3. Killing the Goose that Laid the Golden Egg by metternich · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's probably just a bluff, but if the Music Industry does go through with this it would be incredibly stupid of them. I know it would be contrary to their agreements with Apple Records, but if the music execs do go ahead with this, I think Apple should start selling music directly from the musicians rather than going through the labels. They could simultaneously reduce the prices and give the musicians much more than they get under their current contracts.

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  4. 'bout normal by Nf1nk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The recording industry never saw a cash cow they didn't want to kill.

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  5. Re:How about a share of iTunes instead? by pete6677 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They don't want it to succeed. The recording industry actions over the last few years have pointed to a common goal: stop online music distribution. It could never be as profitable for the music cartel as physical distribution. I think they allowed iTunes to temporarily succeed with this plan in mind all along so they can later kill it, to establish that there is no market for online music distribution and people can now go back to paying $20 for a CD with 2 good songs on it. But it's too late for that to happen now. The only thing that will ultimately pull the music industry's collective head out of it's collective ass is when well-known artists bypass them altogether. When things like this happen, that day will come sooner rather than later.

  6. Here's what Apple needs to do... by Chordonblue · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First of all - this is a power struggle, plain and simple. The recordcos are, once again, shooting themselves in the foot. They seem to think they're still in charge - Apple should show them otherwise. The first record company to pull out of iTunes should be made an example of.

    Let's say Sony decides to pull out first. Well, then everytime a customer tries to do a search for one of their artists or songs (like Switchfoot for instance), have a big, HUGE message for the customer about how Sony wants to charge more than anyone else does and that Apple isn't playing. Let the iTunes customers know about what Sony is trying to do and to contact them to protest their decision.

    Then when Sony finally comes back to the table, Jobs should demand that Sony's songs go 2 for 1 for a time. Jobs has a lot of power here - iTunes is the number one place to get digital music. I hope he realizes it.

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  7. A lawyer working for Warner said this: by sgant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Kenneth Hertz, partner at Goldring Hertz and Lichtenstein LLP, a law firm representing major recording industry artists said "What if Jobs says 39 cents or 29 cents per download - what then? The industry can say, OK we'll cut him of - very few people buy music from digital downloads... [Jobs] will figure out another model ... The industry got together and said 'We don't want another MTV'. Well, now we've got another MTV, in Apple. And we have to deal with it."

    So, I have to ask...if very few people buy music from digital downloads according to this suit, then what the FUCK do these guys care what price Apple sells their music at? This is greed. Pure greed. The recording industry is so used to making reams of cash without doing any of the actual work that they're lashing out when someone tries to take that away from them.

    And then to turn around and say they want a cut of the profits from the physical iPods themselves shows they have HUGE balls too. I mean, do they get a cut from every CD player sold that plays their music?

    Yes, I'd rather blatantly steal all the music from here to the end of my life then have to pay anything to the bastards that run these companies. I'm sorry to the artists but lets face it, they only see a 10th of the actual cash these companies are actually raking in.

    Or better yet, I won't even listen to music anymore. I'm so pissed off and disenchanted with the whole industry I'll just sit and listen to the birds outside my window...or laugh like a brook as it trips and falls over stones on it's way. Sorry, was channeling "Sound of Music" there....DAMN!

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    1. Re:A lawyer working for Warner said this: by tsm_sf · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Oh they got the moral, but for them it was "kill the goose and get the next egg faster."

      I have to totally agree with the GP. This will drive me back to p2p and the used record stores. Actually, you know what? Fuck this. I like stealing from corporations. I'm tired of trying to do the right thing when I see the wrong thing being rewarded on a macro level every day. How the hell did we get shamed into being "good citizens" by these bastards? It's like listening to Tony Soprano give a "crime doesn't pay" speech.

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  8. This just in... by meadandale · · Score: 5, Insightful
    Having just bought an iPod in the last week and bought my first music in well over 3 years via iTunes I have only this to say to the RIAA and these Music Industry morons:

    Force iTunes out of business and I'll revert to stealing your music.

    Downloads on iTunes aren't cheap. On the contrary, at a buck a song, it is only marginally cheaper to buy music on iTunes (though arguably more convenient). So, with no physical product to produce and distribute, we are being charged almost the same amount as if we go into a store and buy a CD? And you want to charge more?

    What part of 'greedy fscking assholes' don't you understand?

    1. Re:This just in... by EntropyEngine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well over here in England, it's quite a lot cheaper to buy music from iTunes than it is to buy from the high street.

      The greed of the music labels really does know no bounds.

      It's just pure greed that they want a slice of iPod sales.

      These people are just parasites feeding off the very entity that saved their collective margins from a razor-thin oblivion.

      Will they ever learn? Of course not.

      I don't see any other alternative than for piracy to rise again and their sales to fall for them to realize the error of their ways. But with their totally blinkered attitude, all that they would do is put on yet more spin on the economics and blame some other nameless / faceless force for their own idiocy...