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HP to Install Netscape on all new PCs

TJ Parisi writes "News.com is reporting that HP / Compaq will begin to install all PCs sold in the US and Canada with Netscape. Users will be prompted with the option to set either Netscape or IE as the default browser." From the article: "The agreement, which the companies are set to announce Monday, is the first browser distribution deal with a major PC maker since the end of the browser wars in the 1990s, according to Netscape, a division of Time Warner's America Online subsidiary."

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  1. Why did Microsoft allow this? by soft_guy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I guess they aren't worried about Netscape anymore.

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  2. More Pre-Bundled Software! Yay! by kubevubin · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know, HP, it's hard to market a computer as "fast" or "productive" whenever it's bogged down with excessive pre-installed software. I'm sure that Netscape will also be set to load at startup with everything else that's installed, eh?

  3. About time? by cdn2k1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    Wow, its good to see HP getting with the times... the times being 1991...

  4. Meh by phatwuss · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's like asking someone to choose between two pieces of excrement. Why not a choice between Opera and Firefox instead?

  5. Right idea. by NoMoreNicksLeft · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wrong browser.

    1. Re:Right idea. by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Uh, Netscape is Firefox under a different skin.

      Or, rather, it's Mozilla. (which I personally prefer strongly over Firefox anyway).

      A lot of the tweaks and configs for Mozilla can be manually patched into Netscape, even if not in the Netscape 'options' menu. Actually, it's one step toward Mozilla/Firefox to get users onto Netscape. And a Netscape friendly Web is by design an identically friendly Firefox friendly web.

      Think about it.

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  6. smart move by vivek7006 · · Score: 4, Informative

    "We specifically chose the Netscape browser because od its ability to run both the Triton (IE) and Gecko (Firefox) rendering engines" Sounds like a smart move on part of HP. Does opera allow choosing multiple rendering engines?

  7. whiskey.... tango.... foxtrot.... by Deitheres · · Score: 4, Interesting

    WHY? Let me ask it a different way: good god, why?!?

    I used netscape back during the 4.0 days, when it was the best browser available for Linux. Even then, I hated it.

    Now, there are SOOO many better browsers. Frankly, IE with active X disabled is better than netscape. Firefox beats them both. For Linux, there's konqueror (and firefox as well). I use a combination of Firefox/Camino/Safari under OS X. There is not ONE scenario under which I would use Netscape.

    Why wouldn't they do a bundle with Firefox? Or Opera, now that it's 100% free.

    Netscape's time has come and gone. There are much better IE alternatives available now.

    Then again, HP is not exactly on the leading edge of tech anymore. Some would say they haven't been for quite some time... wasn't there a /. article recently about them firing all of their good engineers? Obviously, there's almost no one left with brains left at HP, at least not in whatever department choose to make this idiotic decision.

    That being said, I am happy to see anything that detracts from IE marketshare. Not because I hate MS (although I do to a degree), but only because I think that competition forces innovation. Look at how things were in the 90s when IE and Netscape were battling it out, we saw all kind of changes in the browser software. Hopefully we'll see something that like occur again.

    Only time will tell.

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  8. It's Netscape 8 -- Not SeaMonkey by The+Amazing+Fish+Boy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Netscape 8 is based on Firefox, but lets users switch between both the Firefox and IE browser engines.

    Keep this in mind. This is Netscape 8, possibly the ugliest browser out there. It uses Firefox's rendering engine (Gecko), but also has the ability to use IE's rendering engine if needed.

    FTA:
    Netscape 8 is based on Firefox, but lets users switch between both the Firefox and IE browser engines.

    So now IE is still kind of the default browser -- when the site doesn't render properly, they will just switch the rendering engine to IE and go on like normal. It resolves nothing, as websites are not encouraged to fix their bugs.

    Links:

    Netscape Browser 8
    Screenshot of Netscape Browser 8 -- The goggles! They do nothing!
    Details on Netscape 8 UI Flaws

  9. Grammar nazi says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    The browser wars is something that really shouldn't of happened.

    SHOULDN'T *HAVE*!!!

    1. Re:Grammar nazi says... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      How about shouldn't've?

  10. Re:To bad it is news. by Halfbaked+Plan · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, but the browser wars were started because Netscape got uppity and played 'chicken' with Microsoft. Andreesen got up on the stage and started hyping web applications as if it would replace Microsoft. This 'woke up the bear' who then went on a rampage. Which is NOT to excuse Microsoft, just to point out Netscape wasn't the 'good guy' either.

    Remember, Netscape hoped to own the web. They were the ones who first started introducing non-standard tags and features that only their server technology could serve up to their browser. They were NOT the good guys, just one of the elephants fighting in the commons and stomping on the little guys.

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  11. Re:Why Netscape? by ErikRed1488 · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I'm guessing, like most things, it was all about money. Do you really think HP approached Netscape looking for a browser?

    It's far more likely that Netscape/AOL came to HP and offered them a ton of cash to include their browser. Why would they do that you ask? Again, just another guess, but my money says that it's AOL's way of getting their portal and search on a large portion of the PCs out there.

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  12. Re:I've had issues with Mozilla - firefox is bette by Guardian+of+Terra · · Score: 5, Funny

    Please return RH7.1 and generally consider to stop robbing musemus.

  13. Re:Why Netscape? by lordofthechia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Any browser choice is still awesome. As soon as people start to see choice they'll slowly stop equating "the internet" with Internet Explorer and realize that they've had choices all along. I applaud HP with their decision to open their customer's minds and give them an option. They've really earned my respect with by still selling AMD processor PC's and now this.

    Now if their all in one wireless printer/scanners didn't require 380-700mb of software/drivers (And no I'm not kidding...).

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  14. Re:netscape sucks by NanoGator · · Score: 4, Funny

    "who analy raped netscape when i wasent looking? seriously i used it in 1997 and it was good but every new version just seems more bloated and slow"

    That sounds more like marriage than anal rape.

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