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X05 Reveals Many 360 Details

StocDred writes "GamesIndustry.biz has an interview with Microsoft's Robbie Bach stating that Halo 3 may not be out in time to smackdown the PS3 after all, despite what Bill Gates said to Time Magazine in May." He also had things to say about the Live marketplace and MMO plug-ins and their hopes for Japanese success. From the Gamasutra article: "Finally, Bach gave details on anticipated MMORPGs for the Xbox 360. The already-announced Final Fantasy XI will have a large beta test, such that any Xbox 360 owner with the necessary hard drive will possibly be able to participate. Apart from that, Bach said there would be no new MMORPG in the launch window due to the logistics of setting up a new service, but there would be a new entry in the genre two to three years after launch." Several MMOs are planned, though, such as the MMOFPS Huxley.

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  1. That's what I'm talkin' bout by solesoul · · Score: 1

    Halo 3 may not be out in time to smackdown the PS3 after all, despite what Bill Gates said to Time Magazine in May

    Bill Gates, I've got three words for you: FACE Gates, FACE!

    1. Re:That's what I'm talkin' bout by Donoho · · Score: 1

      FACE!

      Don't forget the *waddle* *waddle* *waddle*

      So basically it's impossible to quite with case sensitivity. Lameness Filter 1s teh sUx0r

  2. FACE? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    MEET ASS!

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  3. Is anyone really surprised? by mix_MasterMix · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Of course MS couldn't guarantee Halo 3 would be out in the spring unless they sacrificed quality, something I don't see Bungie letting happen. I sincerely hope no one out there really thought that Bill was giving a set launch date. It's crazy talk.

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    1. Re:Is anyone really surprised? by Botia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Three cheers for Bungie, a game development company that has put out quality games and insists on doing so in the future. If more of the game development companies were able to do this we wouldn't have so many buggy, almost finished games rushed to the market.

    2. Re:Is anyone really surprised? by solesoul · · Score: 1, Funny

      Come on, you know he was dead serious about it. He was probably cackling with joy when he said it. And you know what he did when he got the bad news that it wouldn't be out in time? He ordered three babies in small, South American villages killed, thats what!

    3. Re:Is anyone really surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bungee may be a pretty decent development studio but praising them for not releasing something before it's finished? What about the last levels of Halo 2? It was clearly rushed out for Christmas and it showed. Hopefully they've learned their lesson with Halo 3 and will release a finished product.

    4. Re:Is anyone really surprised? by fujiman · · Score: 1

      History suggests the PS3 "spring" release date is likely to be for Japan only. History also suggests that Sony will be late in getting it out to US and Europe. I'd say Bungie has an excellent chance of making the *US* PS3 release, which will probably be this time next year.

  4. WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Final Fantasy XI is going to be four years old at the XBox launch (according to the Wikipedia). So, what they're saying, is that the XBox will be receiving a four-year old port of an MMORPG, and then nothing else for another two to three years after that. Um, yay?

    Not to mention that it's a PORT from a console that's popular in Japan (the PS2) to a new one, from a company that failed to gain any real popularity in Japan. According to some earlier Slashdot article, FFXI will be a flat port to the XBox 360 and not an upgrade. So, essentially, you'll be left with a choice: pay $250 for a PS2 + HDD, or pay $400 for a new XBox 360 with an HDD. (Or something like that, I don't know the actual Japanese prices.) I can't see this being that big a deal.

    This is almost as underwhelming as it would be if Sony announced that the PS3 was going to be receiving a port of FFXI to it, without any enhancements, shortly after launch. So what? It's a last-generation game, without enhancements.

    Maybe Microsoft is hoping that old PS2s will start dieing, and seeing as the new slim PS2 doesn't support the old PS2 HDDs, they'll get people migrating to the XBox 360 for their MMORPG fix. :-)

    It just seems really silly to mention FFXI as a launch game. The only real message here is that game companies no longer HAVE to use Live, instead they can use their own service. It just doesn't seem like it's a compelling feature at all.

    1. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by RoadDoggFL · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The Final Fantasy brand matters more than a Final Fantasy game...

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    2. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by falcon5768 · · Score: 2, Informative
      a) FFXI has a new expansion comming out

      b) The port WILL be a upgrade, while the graphics will be the PCs version, the draw distance is being doubled

      c) For a game thats not very popular, its still the third largest MMO in the US, second if you ignore guildwars which most people dont consider a MMO.

      and d) it means that people are becoming serious about playing MMOs on these systems, something that in truth has lended its self better to playing like a traditional RPG rather than how Ultima and EQ got started. It also paves the way for hints that Blizzard is ALSO thinking about doing it.

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    3. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      a) FFXI has a new expansion comming out

      Any details on that? I can't get the Vana'diel Wind movie to play, and that seems to be the only information on it at present.

      b) The port WILL be a upgrade, while the graphics will be the PCs version, the draw distance is being doubled

      Speaking as someone who played the PC version, I'm underwhelmed. The graphics looked pretty lousy for a PC game.

      c) For a game thats not very popular, its still the third largest MMO in the US, second if you ignore guildwars which most people dont consider a MMO.

      The "unpopular company" was Microsoft, not Square-Enix. The XBox was never very popular in Japan. I doubt that releasing Final Fantasy XI for the XBox 360 will change that, either, since Japanese players can already play the game on the PS2.

      and d) it means that people are becoming serious about playing MMOs on these systems, something that in truth has lended its self better to playing like a traditional RPG rather than how Ultima and EQ got started. It also paves the way for hints that Blizzard is ALSO thinking about doing it.

      I'm not quite sure what you're saying here. Final Fantasy XI seemed similar enough to Ultima and EQ to me. (Although I didn't like the lack of character customization and the crafting system. Everyone wound up playing cookie-cutter characters.)

      My point remains though: it's a port of a game that's already available, without any signifigant upgrades. (Bringing the graphics up to PC level doesn't count in my book - especially because, if I understand that correctly, that only applies to HDTV output.) If you want to play it, you can go and grab a copy right now. It runs on a currently available console.

      Imagine if Sony was proud to announce that the PS3 would have Halo as a launch title. The only change would be higher resolutions. Would you care? If you wanted to play Halo, you can, already. The difference in graphics isn't compelling enough to buy a new console.

      Launch titles are supposed to be titles that make you want the console. Final Fantasy XI can already be played on other systems (PS2/PC). I can't imagine anyone buying an XBox 360 soley to play FFXI. The best they can hope for is that someone will want to play a variety of other XBox 360 titles AND FFXI at the same time. Since FFXI is four years old, I expect that the vast majority of people that want to play it already have a copy. I highly doubt anyone will buy an XBox 360 because FFXI is available on it.

    4. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by MMaestro · · Score: 1
      1. Because anyone whos played the game knows the PS2 resulted in the PC version being cripped graphically.

      2. Everquest was ported from the PC to the PS2 and people didn't bitch then, they won't bitch now.

      3. Its arguably the most successful MMORPG after WoW, and unarguably the most successful cross-platform MMO game there is.

    5. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by ErikZ · · Score: 1
      2. Everquest was ported from the PC to the PS2 and people didn't bitch then, they won't bitch now.


      Yeah, but that was Everquest. They stuck cleavage on everything that moved to distract you from the horrible graphics.
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    6. Re:WHY are they talking about FFXI at all? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. Because anyone whos played the game knows the PS2 resulted in the PC version being cripped graphically.

      The XBox 360 version will be using PC-grade graphics. So it'll still be crippled graphically.

      2. Everquest was ported from the PC to the PS2 and people didn't bitch then, they won't bitch now.

      Huh? First off, the EverQuest port was, to my understanding, to a PS2-specific server cluster. The XBox 360 port will be to the main game servers.

      Secondly, that has nothing to do with my point.

      3. Its arguably the most successful MMORPG after WoW, and unarguably the most successful cross-platform MMO game there is.

      And neither does that.

      The point is that, as a launch MMORPG, it's not exactly compelling, because it's already in the marketplace. No one is going to be thinking "oh, I just HAVE to get an XBox 360 to play FFXI!" - because they can already play it on existing systems, for less money.

      FFXI has already been successful. It's four years old - the vast majority of players interested in it ALREADY have it. Imagine if one of the PS3 launch titles was Halo, without improved graphics. Would you care?

  5. Advertizing campaign by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the announcement that Halo 3 will not be out in the first year of the XBox 360 Microsoft introduced everyone to the slogan for their advertizing campaign:

    "Please don't buy an XBox 360!"

    It's declared to be a bold new strategy; tell everyone that they don't want one, and do everything in your power to make no one want one, and people will buy it.

    McDonalds soon followed up this announcement with the introduction of the fecal burger; it's slogan is "dum dum dum dum dum, I'm hating it"

    1. Re:Advertizing campaign by CFTM · · Score: 1

      Go watch some more south park and then try coming up with some original humor or at least quote the sources that you blatantly steal from.

      McDonalds soon followed up this announcement with the introduction of the fecal burger; it's slogan is "dum dum dum dum dum, I'm hating it" Episode 712 "All About The Mormons"
      Dum dum dum dum dum....

      It's declared to be a bold new strategy; tell everyone that they don't want one, and do everything in your power to make no one want one, and people will buy it. Episode 506 "Cartmanland"; It's cartman's amusement park god dammit!

  6. it just sounds bad... by ReverendLoki · · Score: 1
    Look, Halo3 may end up being right on schedule, with a respectable development time, but it just sounds like it'll never be released when you can say that it sounds like it will be released *AFTER* Duke Nukem Forever.

    Old habits die hard, I guess.

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  7. FFXI MMORPG by Dark+Paladin · · Score: 1

    I might participate in this one (if I was going to buy a 360, of which I have no plans yet except to turn around and sell it on eBay 2 weeks before Christmas just because I'm an evil bastard) if they included voice chat.

    It seems that voice chat is a missing feature in a lot of MMORPGs. I wouldn't mind having a "ignore all by default" feature, and be able to turn it on for individuals that I get to know. This would reduce the vocal asshattedness (you know - people screaming out "You nigger asshole" and other activities that you can only perform when being an anonymous 13 year old), and let me talk to people I meet to have useful plans/strategy/discussions without having to find the keyboard all the time.

    Of course, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong, but that's something that might get me to consider playing FFXI on the 360.

    1. Re:FFXI MMORPG by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Square-Enix has confirmed that they have no intention of adding voice chat to the XBox 360 version of Final Fantasy XI at any time.

      Essentially the XBox360 version is going to be identical to the PS2 version, except support higher resolutions (using textures optimized for lower resolutions...). Yay?

  8. The Depth Of Xbox Fan Delusions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that Xbox fans talk of 'shipping Halo 3 the same day as the PS3 release to fuck Sony up" should be a clear indication of just how sadly delusional this niche market segment has become.

  9. Um, WHERE'S THE BEEF? by larsoncc · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Hey, where is my backwards compatibility announcement? If it was GOOD news, don't you think they'd be announcing it during the keynote?

    What are they waiting for?

    How about reports from real gamers about Perfect Dark Zero?

    IGN says they HOPE the framerate will get all the way up to a whopping 30 FPS?

    WHAT?

    1. Re:Um, WHERE'S THE BEEF? by drspooky · · Score: 1

      Do you have a magic TV that gets more than 30 frames per second?

  10. X05 hasn't even STARTED yet!!! by __aailob1448 · · Score: 1

    It starts October 5th (tomorrow). The Title of this article is bullshit. All the interviews are Pre-X05 too.

    1. Re:X05 hasn't even STARTED yet!!! by truffle · · Score: 1

      A simple google news search for X05 reveals it has started

      http://news.google.ca/news?hl=en&ned=ca&q=x05&btnG =Search+News

      Or maybe this was supposed to be funny?

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    I work at Bioware on Mass Effect so I'll take this opportunity to shamelessly plug our upcoming title.

    I'll do my best to sneak a penguin alien named Linus into the gold master.

  12. My "magic" TV. Google before trolling. KTHXBYE. by larsoncc · · Score: 2, Informative

    First, the concern here is that it dips below 30 ACCORDING TO A JOURNALIST. Now, they don't have a "frames per second meter" that they can hook up to the kiosk's LCD, now do they? So, this is shorthand for "this game is choppy."

    Second, many people most certainly DO have a TV that displays more than 30 frames per second. That's a property of progressive scan. In interlaced modes, 30fps (actually 60, but each frame is only HALF the screen), in progressive modes, 60fps. Look it up. This is a high def gaming system, designed for progressive scan TVs. You bet people are going to notice.

    Besides, the term "framerate" in games refer to how quickly the hardware can draw changes to a scene. The difference is in quick turns, enemies moving quickly, etc. In a lower framerate game, frames are repeated rather than new, and because there is no motion blur, you see lag (or worse, frame frops / stuttering).

    See this article: http://www.daniele.ch/school/30vs60/30vs60_1.html (it's older, but still quite valid)

  13. Re:My "magic" TV. Google before trolling. KTHXBYE. by drspooky · · Score: 1

    I am quite familiar with what the term "framerate" means when applied to gaming. I am also familiar with the fact that final builds are not shown at trade shows. I am additionally very well aquainted with how televisions work.

    And finally, I was trying to be sarcasticlly funny. Relax. You'll live longer.

    KTHXBYE