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Microsoft's Unique Innovation

Anonymous Coward writes "The way John Carroll sees it, Microsoft doesn't get enough credit for all the technology it invents. The company's understanding of the marketplace, argues Carroll, has proved fertile ground for many of the inventions, however incremental, that Microsoft produces on a regular basis. That awareness is that all software markets, however "unrelated" they may seem, have linkages to each other. And it's an awareness that open source will have a hard time matching. Another reason many fail to appreciate Microsoft inventiveness, continues Carroll, is because most inventions are pieces of larger puzzles."

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  1. What the..... by RiscIt · · Score: 5, Funny

    * checks calendar *

    Nope... it's not April 1st. Did I miss something?

    1. Re:What the..... by meadandale · · Score: 2, Funny

      *shouts through bullhorn* "Mr. Carroll, please step AWAY from the Kool Aid"

    2. Re:What the..... by Spy+der+Mann · · Score: 4, Funny

      Did I miss something?

      *Browses Microsoft's product list*

      Hmmmm... nope.

    3. Re:What the..... by cursion · · Score: 5, Funny

      I know ... I've got mod points, but I can't find a way to mark the article flamebait...

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    4. Re:What the..... by T'hain+Esh+Kelch · · Score: 1, Funny

      Given the fact a *fucking lot* of Open Source applications are copying ideas from Windows, there must be some clever heads at Microsoft.

      And given the fact that most was stolen from Apple, that really doesnt matter in this case. :)

    5. Re:What the..... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny
      Given the fact a *fucking lot* of Open Source applications are copying ideas from Windows, there must be some clever heads at Microsoft.

      I know! Just like Apache copied IIS, Sendmail copied Exchange, BSD copied their old network utilities, and Mozilla copied IE. I tell you, it's amazing they ever let us have any of their new toys, since we're just going to steal them right out from under 'em.

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    6. Re:What the..... by Kenshin · · Score: 2, Funny

      There's some exciting stuff there, and I bet we'll be seeing that MiniBar concept in applications for years and years to come.

      Don't tell me we'll have to pay each time we use an item...

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    7. Re:What the..... by bhiestand · · Score: 3, Funny

      name one thing MS has that there isn't prior art for.
      Bill Gates' haircut.

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    8. Re:What the..... by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Funny
      There was a time before the brainwashing when it was considered patently obvious that you get better product when you pay people to build it.

      I get paid quite a bit to write Free Software, as do a lot of my friends. The teenage hacker in his mom's basement is terribly '90s; you really need to update your cliches.

      Even if Microsoft gets Longhorn out in 2008, it will still beat linux.

      Yes, Longhorn '08 will probably be spiffy compared to Linux '05. I don't plan to be running Linux '05 then.

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    9. Re:What the..... by ericdano · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn Mr. Carroll! Give Steve Jobs back his REALITY DISTORTER. That is strickly a device for use by THE STEVE only!

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  2. Hmm. by Limburgher · · Score: 5, Funny
    The reason for that unstoppability is the lack of an awareness on anyone else's part of the value of an end to end solution where everything works together using the same technology

    Riiiight. I work in an almost all MS shop, and if everything suddenly started working seamlessly, I'd have a friggin' heart attack.

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    1. Re:Hmm. by stillmatic · · Score: 2, Funny

      You mean, you'd wonder where all your end-users went?

    2. Re:Hmm. by Limburgher · · Score: 2, Funny

      Bingo. I'd also report my Exchange server missing. :)

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  3. Frequent Rebooting by Average_Joe_Sixpack · · Score: 5, Funny

    I don't remember having to reboot as much with other platforms ... I guess that's sort of an innovation

    1. Re:Frequent Rebooting by shis-ka-bob · · Score: 4, Funny

      Hear, Hear! This is actually Microsoft's innovative solution to carpal tunnel syndrom. Who else is working to see that the average worker actually gets a periodic five minute break from typing?

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  4. These are people who died. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    They were all my friends, and they died...

    Wait. That was Jim Carroll.

  5. Re:MS keeps innovating in their spin by rdoger6424 · · Score: 2, Funny

    It's times like this where I wish there was a new mod category:
    Burn! (+1)

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  6. With this article I'm sure.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    A mature, rational discussion will follow.

  7. Re:What has Microsoft ever invented? by schon · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft Bob.

    AKA "Clippy"

  8. No Credit? by Pudusplat · · Score: 1, Funny

    Microsoft not getting credit on Slashdot?!



    Never :)

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  9. just sad by sjofi · · Score: 2, Funny

    he actually knows that he can't claim microsoft being innovative unless he redefines the meaning of the word "innovative" in some bizzard way he can't even express proberly.

  10. Microsoft should get a Nobel Prize for .... by Jerry · · Score: 1, Funny

    Clippy. Judging by all the praise from Dido and Enderle it has to be the greatest thing ever invented since .... eh ... Bob?

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  11. Re:MS keeps innovating in their spin by eno2001 · · Score: 2, Funny

    My comedy detector was off. I've been engaged in a battle of wits with the enemy and they managed to hit my comedy detector with a photon torpedo. I think repairs should have it online in another twenty to thirty minutes. Eno out.

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  12. But they DO innovate by Pudusplat · · Score: 2, Funny

    Look at all the things they HAVE created:

    DOS
    The GUI
    the Web Browser
    Word Processing
    Media Compression
    Solitaire

    The future seems to hold limitless possibilities if we look at their past innovations. Long live Microsoft!

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    1. Re:But they DO innovate by ardor · · Score: 4, Funny

      You forgot teh internet. They invented teh internet. With a shiny nice blue "e" logo.

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  13. Re:Hey Look... by Overly+Critical+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

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  14. What about the Recycle Bin? by freepudding · · Score: 3, Funny

    If they had just straight copied Apple's Trash, think of the landfill problems we'd be having right now. Reuse! Reduce! RECYCLE!!!!

  15. Re:MS keeps innovating in their spin by dlZ · · Score: 4, Funny

    As a previous owner of a seafoam green 1995 Ford Escort I can say that comparing Windows to the Escort is very unfair to the Escort. It ran everyday and cost much less to maintain.

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  16. Re:MS keeps innovating in their spin by Undertaker43017 · · Score: 5, Funny

    "has to have the tires upgraded every lap"

    Guess you missed the US Grand Prix this year...

  17. Re:What has Microsoft ever done for us? by thewils · · Score: 2, Funny

    The aquaduct, don't forget the aquaduct!

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  18. Re:MS keeps innovating in their spin by robertjw · · Score: 4, Funny

    It's an especially bad analogy because he has it completely backwards.

    Actually it's wrong on both ends, not only does engineering in the automotive world generally work from racing down to the consumer level, Microsoft hasn't turned an Escort into a Formula 1 racer. A better comparison would be that Microsoft bought a Ford Escort, put a new coat of paint on it, raised the price, fired all the engineers that built it to start with and tried to convince everyone it was actualy a Formula 1 car.

    They do deserve a lot of credit.

  19. Employment opportunities Re:What the..... by Slashdot_Gandhi · · Score: 0, Funny



    You can definitely credit Microsoft with inventing lots of unheard-before-jobs though...

  20. MiniBar? by turgid · · Score: 2, Funny

    Hotels have had them for years... so where's the innovation?

    Now, I know as well as the next pro-Windows shill that Open Sores copies everything Windows does, so give it a year or two and I'll have unlimited free beer, whisky, chocolate and peanuts.

    All they have to sort out is free hookers and I'll be sorted.

  21. Re:seriously ... by Monte · · Score: 2, Funny

    Have you ever seen a windows box with multiple keyboards?

    Yes, but they were all connected to the MIDI port at the time...

  22. Is there a word.. by StikyPad · · Score: 2, Funny

    for an article that's designed to be inflammatory? It could just be me, but it seems like posting pro MS articles on /. is like a white guy yelling "Up with the man!" in the middle of Harlem. I can almost hear half the /.ers thinking the nerdy equivelant of "Oh no he di'int."

  23. Xerox PARC and real innovation. by kupci · · Score: 5, Funny
    Hasn't anybody else noticed that the slope of progress on linux is far less than for Mac OS X, or even Windows? Even if Microsoft gets Longhorn out in 2008, it will still beat linux. And by that point Apple will be selling something that makes both look like a Speak 'n' Spell.

    Slope of progress? Like, do you measure that in utils, or what? Lines of code? Eye-candy? How many OEMs include it? Or do you measure it in reliability, security, standards-adherence? The underpinnings (openstep, freebsd) have always been there for the taking by anybody in the OSS community yet it took Apple to produce what I think (and many others do, too) is the first decent version of UNIX for the desktop.

    Always there for the taking? Nice corporate attitude. Well, that sentence speaks for itself. Apple benefits from the hard work of the folks at Berkeley and KDE, then adds some polish, calls it innovation. 'cepting they wouldn't be where there are now had it not been for open-source. And by the way, if you search the Slash archive, you'll see Apple is not exactly a self-respecting member of the open source community. They see far, by sitting on the shoulders of giants. But don't contribute anything back, unless they get their hands slap. Read up on Safari's roots in KDE's KHTML.

    Even if Microsoft gets Longhorn out in 2008, it will still beat linux.

    NOW you're talking crack. What an inane statement first of all. Still beat linux in what way? Again, what are your criteria? Besides, the Linux development pace has forced Microsoft to entirely revamp their glacial development process to the 'Agile' process of the Linux crew. Read up on the article in WSJ recently about how sloooooow it took to get builds from Microsot.

    Just look at GNOME. It's practically got a [bleep] start menu.

    The start menu. Oh, thank you very very much Msf. What a wonderful contribution. But they stole the entire user interface for Windows, and Windows 95, from Macintosh, who stole it from Xerox PARC. Xerox Parc built the GUI interface. Msft contributes a button. Thanks.