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No Region Codes for HD-DVD?

MBCook writes "According to Engadget something interesting has come out of the DVD Forum Conference 2005 in Japan. Here is the line from the post we've all been waiting for: 'But one statement from Toshiba Digital Media Networks' Hisashi Yamada was particularly intriguing: "We've gotten a variety of opinions about region controls. Even in the Steering Committee, they are extremely unpopular; we decided to not put them in. HD DVD probably won't contain any region playback controls."' Source: Japanese, English (via Google's Language Tools)."

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  1. Whoa. by greyjoy · · Score: 3, Informative

    If Blu-Ray doesn't match this, I think Toshiba just got a LOT more popular.

  2. Re:Region code purpose by Jetson · · Score: 4, Informative

    Although many people point to release dates and argue that regions were to prevent someone from importing a movie that was still in local theatres, I think a much larger factor was the general standard of living. Region coding allowed the studios to charge higher prices in regions that had higher standards of living without pricing themselves out of the market in economically depressed regions.

  3. Re:Makes sense.... by Avtar · · Score: 4, Informative

    Most DVD players in the Uk (especially the cheap ones) do not ship region free, but there is normally a very easy way (if you can find it) to make it region free. My DVD player can be made region free (or any other region) by using a hidden menu which is accessed by pressing 7 when the tray is open.

    Lots of examples of how easy it is are available here http://www.dvdexploder.com/multihacks.htm

    Avtar

  4. Re:About region codes by RexRhino · · Score: 4, Informative

    The lack of Zone 1 DVDs from Europe is the result of the European distributors wanting to get licencing fees from U.S. distributers. It is possible to manufacture your DVDs as region 0 (all regions). The company I used to work for manufactured all it's DVDs that way, because they couldn't afford to create versions for each market. It doesn't cost a penny extra to make your DVD for all regions. And you can sell directly to the U.S. consumer via Amazon and Netflix who have no qualms about selling/renting obscure or foriegn titles.

    But that is not how it works for the big guys. A European company will not release an all-region DVD (unless they are a small niche company), they will try to find someone to purchase the North American rights to the film, and manufacutre and market it for North America.

  5. Re:Where have you been, buddy? by jonbryce · · Score: 3, Informative

    That may be so, but most of the population struggle even with the documented features of their device, nevermind applying cracks to them.

  6. Re:All I Want for Christmas... by Zarhan · · Score: 3, Informative

    Get a Pioneer DV-470 (or 525 if you need SACD and WMA support). It can play DivX files too (and show your JPEG photos). And after that, get a firmware update from

    http://mtz.softpedia.com/index.php?option=com_webl inks&catid=70&Itemid=4

    And you can do all that you want.

    (The region-free part is actually in the standard firmware, you just need to activate it with some sort of IR signal (the guy who sold me one did it with a Palm Vx). But the Mtz firmware does all that and more, so just use it)

  7. Re:How region codes should work... by NoMaster · · Score: 3, Informative

    So, you don't have multi-standard TVs in the US? Your DVD players don't do at least a half-arsed conversion from one standard to another? (What's the reverse of PAL-60? NTSC-50? So what if you lose 40-odd lines top and bottom?)

    If that's the case: wow, what a backwards, insular country...

    These things are pretty much standard in the rest of the world - any TV less than 10 years old is almost sure to natively handle PAL/SECAM & NTSC. And if you can't walk into a major retailer and buy a decent name-brand DVD player that's region-free out of the box (or with codes in the user manual), then you're not trying...

    At least, that's the case in Australia. Hell, some of the major DVD retailers here stock R1 titles on the shelf alongside R4.

    --
    What part of "a well regulated militia" do you not understand?
  8. Re:All I Want for Christmas... by dbIII · · Score: 3, Informative
    3. Allow skipping of FBI warning, etc.
    "xine dvd://3" or "mplayer dvd://3" will just play the third track, no menu, warnings or whatever (unless that happens to be the track you pick). On xine if you pick a track at random you can also right click and choose "root menu" to get to the main disk menu. Telling people about it may be against some stupid law pushed through by bribery by an industry group known for tax evasion on a massive scale, but it's perfectly legal in most countries.
    in which case, is there a DVD drive that is region free
    Most have region free firmware available somewhere, since they are manufactured outside of the USA and are also sold outside of the USA where having region free drives is perfectly legal (and sometimes the default).