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Scotty To Be 'Beamed Up'

joel_archer writes "James 'Scotty' Doohan's remains will be launched into space in accord with his last wishes. Commercial space flight operator Space Services Inc. will launch the late actor's remains into space aboard its Explorers Flight on December 6. Along for the ride will be 120 others including an unidentified astronaut and Mareta West, the astrogeologist who determined the site for the first spacecraft landing on the moon. Fans can post tributes to Doohan at the Space Services Web site. Those messages will be digitized, packed with 'Scotty' and blasted into space."

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  1. Godsend Jimmy by TiredGamer · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Everything I've ever heard from fans and co-workers has described James "Jimmy" Doohan as a man who was funny, caring, and a great guy to be with. Unlike certain unnamed Trek actors, he was never too big to attend the smallest convention and he was always pleased just to be there for the fans. He will be truly missed.

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    1. Re:Godsend Jimmy by TheEqualizer · · Score: 5, Informative

      Doohan was also a WW2 vet who took part in the Normandy landings, losing a part of his hand due to enemy fire.

    2. Re:Godsend Jimmy by aussie_a · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If it weren't for his disease (and later, death) I imagine he would have been right there beside Walter Koenig in a fan-produced episode.

      While actors like the one that played Spock are much more famous then "the little guys" like Doohan and Koenig (not that they're very little ;)), for me there's something really special about them willing to go that extra mile for their fans (and enjoying it as well) that puts them above others, such as the actor who played Kirk.

    3. Re:Godsend Jimmy by aussie_a · · Score: 2, Insightful

      and if that meant not spending so much time signing souvenirs for fanboys to sell on eBay, you shouldn't hold it against him.

      I don't hold him making money against him (although he IS a controversial figure when it comes to the Trek fandom, as well as an actor with what some of his co-workers have had to say in the past), I just think that those who ARE willing to put the extra effort in (regardless of the reasons) are placed a little higher in my heart.

      I do find it amusing that one of the worse actors from Star Trek (in my opinion) is one of the most successful ones post Star Trek.

    4. Re:Godsend Jimmy by blincoln · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Is anyone willing to question why playing a fictional hero seems to inspire more interest than helping to free Europe?

      My guess is that (at least in the US) WWII is a distant historical event, whereas anyone with a TV can see him playing Scotty at least once a week.

      I'm 27. Neither of my parents were born when WWII ended. When I was in high school, WWII was taught in the same way as things that really are ancient history. There was no sense of connection to it on a personal level. Maybe if I had grown up in part of the world where it was actually fought and our class could have seen and touched artifacts of it it would have been more real.

      I didn't get a sense of connection to it until 3 or 4 years ago when I watched the old World at War documentary series on DVD, and inherited a naval AA gunsight and barrel of that era from my granddad.

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  2. Its in a large part just publicity by TheEqualizer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Those ashes aren't really going into space, just low-earth orbit, and their orbit will decay in a decade or so.

    1. Re:Its in a large part just publicity by QuantumG · · Score: 4, Informative

      Wrong. They're boosted into a "perminate" parking orbit. These guys do good work and they're one of the few companies making a shot at space services and actually making any money. All spacecraft need balast, it might as well be something people are willing to pay to send up.

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    2. Re:Its in a large part just publicity by kfg · · Score: 5, Insightful

      . . .just publicity

      Ya mean like a tombstone? It's a memorial. Publicity is inherent in their nature.

      Those ashes aren't really going into space, just low-earth orbit. . .

      i.e., space.

      . . .their orbit will decay in a decade or so.

      I canna change the laws of physics, Cap'n, but what better way to scatter a gram or seven of Jimmy's ashes upon the face of the earth Earth? That's one shooting movie star I'd like to see with my own eyes.

      So long Jimmy, and thanks for all the Trek.

      KFG

    3. Re:Its in a large part just publicity by TheEqualizer · · Score: 4, Informative

      Well, no orbit is permanent, all orbits eventualy decay. Here's what thair web site says... http://www.memorialspaceflights.com/faq.asp How long will the cremated remains stay in Earth orbit? The length of orbital stay depends on the final altitude of the primary satellite launched on the mission (a memorial spacecrafts is a "secondary payload" aboard each mission). For example, the orbital life span for our Celestis satellites ranged from two years to several hundred years. The anticipated orbital lifetime for each mission is posted on the dedicated flight web page, after its launch.

    4. Re:Its in a large part just publicity by ArsenneLupin · · Score: 2, Informative
      Those ashes aren't really going into space, just low-earth orbit. . .
      i.e., space.
      Actually, most of the ashes aren't even going to LEO. Most will be scattered at sea. What goes into space is only a symbolic 1 or 7 gram sample (sample size dependant on service you select).
  3. Re:I sure hope... by DrEldarion · · Score: 4, Funny

    They're sending it in to space, (presumably) never to be seen again by anyone ever. Does it really matter if the tributes contain a few goatse references or whatnot? As an added bonus, if an alien civilization manages to stumble across it and reverse-engineer the storage medium, it'll be the first inter-galactic goatse.

    Although that probably violates the "healthy development of alien life and culture" part of the Prime Directive...

  4. (activates comm link) by McCarrum · · Score: 3, Funny

    I canna do it Captain.

    Seriously.

  5. From the CNN article.... by max99ted · · Score: 4, Interesting
    Doohan's cremated remains will be packed into a special tube that is ejected from the rocket and expected to orbit Earth for about 50 to 200 years before plunging into the planet's atmosphere and burning up
    Bummer... why couldn't they just fire it off to some random star or something? Like say, the second star on the right?
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    1. Re:From the CNN article.... by Vellmont · · Score: 2, Informative


      Bummer... why couldn't they just fire it off to some random star or something? Like say, the second star on the right?

      Money. It's expensive to escape the earths gravitational pull. It's even more expensive to escape the suns gravitational pull. The escape velocity of the earth is 11.2 km/sec at the surface. The escape velocity of the sun on the earths surface is 42.1 km/sec, which is about 95,000 miles an hour. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I think the voyager and pioneer probes only managed to escape the suns gravity though planetary gravitational assists.

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  6. Why on Earth do you get Space news from CNN? by TheStonepedo · · Score: 5, Informative

    BBC ran this article months ago:
    Scotty's ashes to hit outer space

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    1. Re:Why on Earth do you get Space news from CNN? by The+Good+Reverend · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Two issues:

      First, this story is a followup. If you bothered to read the story you posted, you'd see it was mentioned that the launch was scheduled for September originally. The "news" part of this news is that the company spokesperson announced this on Friday, October 14.

      Second, this isn't a CNN story - it's a Reuters wire story. CNN is just carrying it.

      Sometimes news gets new again...just because something is mentioned once doesn't mean new things don't happen.

  7. Stupid Idea by sincewhen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not that I have anything against Mr Doohan personally, but this strikes me as an incredibly stupid idea.
    Why waste all that money, time and effort putting *dead people* into orbit so they can float around for a while being a space junk hazard?
    As Mr Spock would say...

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    1. Re:Stupid Idea by The+Great+Wazzoo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      because not everything needs to be of practical value...

  8. Stylish send off by FishandChips · · Score: 3, Funny

    Well, having already been incinerated once, at least Scotty will be able to consider himself an old hand at these things if the rocket explodes on launch.

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  9. As if there was not enough crap in space by slb · · Score: 3, Insightful
    There's already enough hazards in the near space, why such ridiculous things are allowed ?

    Knowing the damage one of those capsule would cause to a satellite, it's like allowing people to put their tombstones on the highway ...

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  10. A Fitting Fortune (Cookie) by cybercobra · · Score: 5, Funny

    Q: How many members of the U.S.S. Enterprise does it take to change a
            light bulb?
    A: Seven. Scotty has to report to Captain Kirk that the light bulb in
            the Engineering Section is getting dim, at which point Kirk will send
            Bones to pronounce the bulb dead (although he'll immediately claim
            that he's a doctor, not an electrician). Scotty, after checking
            around, realizes that they have no more new light bulbs, and complains
            that he "canna" see in the dark. Kirk will make an emergency stop at
            the next uncharted planet, Alpha Regula IV, to procure a light bulb
            from the natives, who, are friendly, but seem to be hiding something.
            Kirk, Spock, Bones, Yeoman Rand and two red shirt security officers
            beam down to the planet, where the two security officers are promply
            killed by the natives, and the rest of the landing party is captured.
            As something begins to develop between the Captain and Yeoman Rand,
            Scotty, back in orbit, is attacked by a Klingon destroyer and must
            warp out of orbit. Although badly outgunned, he cripples the Klingon
            and races back to the planet in order to rescue Kirk et. al. who have
            just saved the natives' from an awful fate and, as a reward, been
            given all light bulbs they can carry. The new bulb is then inserted
            and the Enterprise continues on its five year mission.

    - fortune-mod

    May the great actor rest in peace.

    1. Re:A Fitting Fortune (Cookie) by DJCF · · Score: 5, Funny

      Q: How many members of the original Enterprise does it take to change a light bulb?

      A:

      Captain's Log, Stardate 5187.8. Having cleared up the diplomatic crisis on Politico, I've managed to obtain a leave for my ship and crew. They are looking forward to this much needed vacation.

      (Scene: The Bridge)

      Kirk: Mr. Sulu, set course for the planet Luxuria.

      Sulu: Yes, sir!

      (Suddenly, the ship is rocked by a violent explosion which causes everyone to fall out of their chairs.)

      Kirk: Mr. Chekov, report on all Klingon ships in the area.

      Chekov: Negative, keptin. Sensors show no enemy wessel in sight.

      Kirk: Your analysis, Mr. Spock.

      Spock: I assure you, Captain, I am not operating under the influence of illicit mind-altering substances. However, if you think it necessary, regulations do stipulate that--

      Kirk: I meant your analysis of the current situation.

      Spock: My apologies, Captain. I am still sometimes unable to compensate for the vagaries of human enunciation. It would appear, Captain, that a visional catalyst source has malfunctioned to the critical overload stage. (Noticing Kirk's blank stare, he shakes his head almost imperceptably.) To rephrase my statement into what I believe you humans call `the vernacular': a light bulb blew in Engineering.

      Kirk: Sulu, you have the Bridge. Spock, come with me.

      (Scene: Engineering. A medical team is dragging off an injured engineer in a red shirt. Scotty is surveying the damage and shaking his head. He spots Kirk and Spock.)

      Scotty: Ca'en, sair, seen a' th' bulb ha' burn oot, I kinna see to oper'a' me engines!

      (Kirk smiles and nods.)

      Kirk (whispering to Spock): What did he say?

      Spock: I believe, Captain, that Mr. Scott wishes to register a complaint to the effect that there is insufficient illumination to perform the duties requisite in his capacity as Chief Engineer.

      Kirk: Oh. Well, Scotty, get a spare from storage.

      Spock: I fear such action would be inappropriate, Captain. Starfleet Regulation 171.34c requires us to travel with a full complement of spare parts at all times. If we were to remove a bulb from storage, then we would not have a full complement, and hence be in direct violation.

      Kirk: Damn the regulations, Spock, I've got a ship with 430 people aboard to think of! At least I think there are 430; come to think of it, I've never actually seen more than a couple dozen. Oh well, where is the nearest source of light bulbs?

      Spock: I believe the planet Luminos satisfies the specified parameters.

      Kirk: Scotty, do we have enough power to make it to Luminos?

      Scotty: Ach, I dinna righ'ly ken, Ca'en; we're runnin' a wee bit low. However, if we go strai' thar and dinna hurry, I thin' we migh' possibly duit.

      Kirk: Thank you, Scotty. Spock?

      Spock: Mr. Scott has formulated the opinion that there is insufficient data for complete analysis; current fuel capacity is scarcely in excess of minimal standards. However, probability dictates our vessel has the capability to sustain the journey under the following two constraints: a direct course must be set and maintained throughout and the ship's velocity must satisfy a maximality condition.

      Kirk: Then I'm afraid our little pleasure trip will have to wait.

      (Scene: The Bridge. Sulu and Chekov are engaged in conversation.)

      Sulu: I think it was Thomas Edison.

      Chekov: No, you are wrong; the light bulb is a Russian inwention.

      (Kirk and Spock enter.)

      Kirk: Mr. Sulu, set a direct course for the planet Luminos.

      Sulu (startled): But, Captain, that'll take us straight through the Romulan Neutral Zone!

      Kirk: It's a risk we'

  11. Why do I care? by Leomania · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I'll answer my own question. I'm 42 years old, and with that age (including a family with two amazing daughters that I scarecly deserve) comes a belief that there's something bigger than my not-so-amazing life... that the two children I fathered (and especially the wife who bore them) are somehow more wonderful than me, or anything I could imagine. A surprising consideration from someone who has developed a sense of wonder but who doesn't have a belief in the supernatural. I'm in awe of my progeny and the woman who agreed to share her life with me...

    Why is it that the news of James' passing makes me think of this, here in the wee hours of the morning? I guess it's not hard to deconstruct... I think we'd all like to be the one who worked behind the scenes, the one who made things possible but never got the credit for it. It's a romantic thought that is powerful in me...

    With the most reverent "I'm givin' 'er all she's got, Captain!",

    - Leo

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  12. Some editing required by ErikZ · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Scotty To Be 'Beamed Up'


    Yeah. Just replace "Scotty" with "Pile of ashes". and "Beamed up" with "rocket launched" and we'll have an title that reflects reality.
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  13. Scotty's the man by connah0047 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Now don't stone me for this, but I am about ten years too young to have grown up with the classic Star Trek. I grew up on TNG and that is by far my favorite. I never really cared for the Classic. However, when I was 14 (I'm now 25) and heard Scotty was coming to town for a Star Trek convention, I was there. I got a couple of autographs, got to shake his hand, and hear him tell stories.

    The thing that impressed me the most about him was that he didn't seem to have a self-inflated "I'm-an-American-Icon" attitude. He had a very gentle "grandfather" like attitude and spoke with a soft voice. James Doohan is the man.

  14. Re:I sure hope... by ptomblin · · Score: 4, Funny

    Alien Overlord: Looks like we're going to need bigger probes.

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  15. Chill out. by RoverDaddy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why do we do anything with dead people other than run them through meat grinders and then drop the result in a compost heap? Obviously, whether with or without religious convictions, most of us want to show respect to the dead and the people they have left behind. This is far more important to most people than the value of a few pounds of solid matter that make up a typical human body. When you think logically, even the practice of encasing each dead person in a wood or steel box, and then dropping said box in a plot of land, leaving that land unusable for any other purpose forever is unsustainable. If human custom remains this way long enough, the entire Earth would be one giant cemetery with billions of steel boxes wasting incredible resources. I suspect our customs will change long before this becomes an issue. On the other hand, perhaps it is hubris to assume that humanity will survive long enough for this to become a problem.

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  16. This is dangerous and foolish by michaelbuddy · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Let's review the past few years. Space shuttle launches, gets damaged by debris on lift off. Of course, it wasn't proven, just highly speculated that the debris came from some foam that fell off during launch. Several people burned alive upon reentry because of the damage.

    Most recent shuttle launch, part of the voyage's purpose is diverted to make a repair, presumably because of more debris damage.

    Most recently, a private firm is allowed to launch a bunch of shit into orbit to make more debris danger and to commemorate a few people with enough money to waste on this kind of stuff, rather than give the wealth away to charitable organizations who are fighting disease or trying to make the world a better place. Great idea.

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  17. Funny by RasendeRutje · · Score: 2, Funny

    "Very funny Scotty, now beam up my clothes!"

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