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Google Terror Threat

bogd wrote to mention a CNN article wherein Indian President Abdul Kalam stated his concerns that Google Maps could be used to aid terrorists. From the article: "The Google site contains clear aerial photos of India's parliament building, the president's house and surrounding government offices in New Delhi. There are also some clear shots of Indian defense establishments. Debbie Frost, spokewoman for Mountain View, California-based Google, noted that the software uses information already available from public sources and the images displayed are about one to two years old, not shown in real time."

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  1. See also by Spad · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Register's competition based on this fact, spawned by the Australian government's worry over the security of their nuclear facility.

  2. less work by icepick72 · · Score: 5, Funny
    the software uses information already available from public sources and the images displayed are about one to two years old,

    Ok then, more easily-accessible terrorist information. I mean, Google could blur out all security-sensitive buildings like the White House but then the terrorists know to bomb the blurry spots, or to go to the local tour agency in D.C and pick up a map of the city. Or buy Microsoft flight simulator and practice crashing planes into buildings (ya, they blurred out stuff too), etc etc. The list goes on. I agree that the information is already available like the Google spokespersons says. Google just makes it more convenient to access, that's all. Everybody has to go to less work for good and bad purposes.

  3. In other news... by Vicsun · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Paper maps proclaimed to be a threat to national security as they can be used to guide terrorists to important government buildings.

    1. Re:In other news... by 1u3hr · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Paper maps proclaimed to be a threat to national security as they can be used to guide terrorists to important government buildings.

      You were joking, but in many countries this is true. On a cycling holiday in Malaysia and Thailand I naturally wanted topographic maps to know where the hills were. I saw tour guides had such maps but they're not offically for sale. At a library in Penang I was treated with suspicion when I asked to see their non-existent map collection. Of course it's quite stupid to pretend that terrorists (of which there were and are active groups in these countries) would be fazed by such restrictions. You can source excellent topographic maps of just about anywhere overseas, and of course the local military maps are available for the right price. The only people inconvenienced are legitimate travellers. Simialrly in more paranoid places tourists who take snaps of bridges or just about any public building can lose their cameras and get in trouble. Again quite a futile exercise of power, any "spy" can easily take pictures undetected. In Bruce Schneier's phrase, "security theatre" and scapegoating.

  4. Famous terror attacks by 91degrees · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Okay - The most recent terror attack I recall was on the Lonodn Underground. This used suicide bombers. We also saw a large attack on trains in Spain, involving planted bombs and another suicide attack involving hijacked planes. There seems to be no evidence that terrorists have any substantial technological capabilities.

    All of these were possible without maps.

    The locations of most public buildings is already very well known. Government tends not to keep its existence a secret.

    I just don't quite see how the information gleaned from google maps is really going to help a terrorist organisation any more than, say, mobile telephones and large bags.

  5. Nothing new.. by riflemann · · Score: 5, Informative

    Many organisations and governments around the world have expressed these sorts of fears about GE.

    Not long ago, the operators of Australia's only nuclear reactor expressed concern about GE.

    Korea (both north and south) have expressed their concerns about it.

    The Dutch have expressed concern.

    Even in Russia they are nervous.

    So far google has resisted censoring imagery, but how much longer can they hold out?

    The /. crowd is one that's all for open-ness (and the public availability of imagery tends to favour this), but politics is not known for making logical decisions. It will probably take one major criminal incident (aka terrorist attack) to occur where there's proof of GE being used, at that point perhaps google will cave.

    Personally I hope this never happens, but you can never tell what will happen...

  6. No, no, a question. by Karma_fucker_sucker · · Score: 5, Funny
    What they should do is ask "Are you a terrorist?"

    If they answer yes, then redirect them to www.disney.com. Otherwise, allow them access. It's works great for the pr0n industry. You know,the question they like to ask "Are you 18 years of age or older?" This is fine for the politicians regarding pr0n access, why not for Google maps?

    Politicians, they are sooo paranoid, except when it comes for fiscal reponsibility.

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  7. Of course by Bogtha · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Food helps terrorists. Air helps terrorists. Maps help terrorists.

    You know what else helps terrorists? Constantly freaking out about how every little thing is either vulnerable to terrorists or helps terrorists.

    Seriously, what is it with the people that can't think about anything but terrorists? Don't they realise they are part of the problem? Calm down, chill out, have a cup of tea, and don't be part of the problem.

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  8. Re:Actually, he has a point ... by Xyrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Oh in the name of all that's stupid.....

    When the hell are people going to get OVER the TERRORISTS? If someone is intent on doing you harm, they will find a way. Period. End of freakin' story. It doesn't matter how many draconian laws you pass, or how much information you hide.

    Seems like the enitre world has reached new heights in unsubstantited paranoia. Yes terrorist attacks happen. Yes they suck. But you have more of a chance of being struck by lightening than you do being struck down by terrorists.

    Live in fear, and you have built your own cage. And the terrorists win.

    And no, thanks to GWB, we have more to worry about from terrorists because now they attack people who are less able to prevent/defend against them and are less educated and are more religious (always a very dangerous combination). People are more willing to join them because they don't like the US and would rather be the "Devil's" right hand than in his path. Fear works.

    AH! Don't put that on the web! It can be used by terrorist! AH! Don't do that! The terrorist will get ideas! AH! Don't say that! The terrorists might hear you!

    It's repulsive. It's stupid.

    Backpack nukes? Sheesh. Study the mechanics of a real nuke and see just how infeasible a backpack nuke is.

    Fearmongering at its best. I thought we left this sh*t back in the 50's and 60's. Only then it was communism.

    But on the bright side, we should be able to feed the starving with all this red herring.

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