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Nintendo & McDonalds Providing WiFi

redemtionboy writes "According to IGN, "Nintendo of America on Tuesday will announce a groundbreaking partnership with Wi-Fi provider Wayport to make available free Internet access to DS owners at McDonald's restaurants across the nation." " There are so many potential jokes here that I'm gonna just leave it to you guys to make your own.

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  1. If... by jamesgamble · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...it's free for DS owners, how long will they limit it from people using laptops or other WiFi enabled devices?

    1. Re:If... by KZigurs · · Score: 3, Funny

      probably they wont. Just filter out by MAC adress - that's the best they can do, I guess :)

    2. Re:If... by BushCheney08 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I believe you meant to say "just filter out by BigMAC address..."

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    3. Re:If... by Toloran · · Score: 3, Informative

      Actually the DS has two different types of signals. It has the standard 801.11G and B signal. It also has their own special signal (often called Ni-Fi). The special signal only is compatable with DSs (at the moment). The Ni-Fi signal is normally used when 2 DSs are communicating with eachother. If they do deliver a free signal for DS owners only then they are probably going to use Ni-Fi instead of Wi-Fi

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  2. Jokes? by dsginter · · Score: 5, Funny

    Would you like a portscan with that?

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    1. Re:Jokes? by salparadyse · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would you like wi-fries with that?

    2. Re:Jokes? by dosle · · Score: 5, Funny

      I'm sorry sir, was that a Chocolate SSHake?

  3. A Joke by James+Kilton · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Hmm, I would guess that you're jealous it's not in Taco Bell restaurants. Though frankly I don't see what's so funny about this. It's a step in the right direction. McD's restaurants cover about 10% of the earth. That's a lot of wireless.

  4. 802.11x compatible? by zalas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm a bit fuzzy with the DS specs, but if Nintendo is going to provide free WiFi and the WiFi follows one of the 802.11 standards, how do they keep people without Nintendo DSes from accessing it with a laptop? Will the DS have some sort of special software-based key?

    1. Re:802.11x compatible? by BlueOtto · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shhh! Don't say anything! They might not notice...!


      :)

    2. Re:802.11x compatible? by Bozzio · · Score: 5, Informative

      I thought this was mentioned on /. before, but McDonald's offers free Wifi for laptop users anyway. I don't know how widespread this is, but it's already offered in my small town.

      The funny thing is that they are supposed to give you a 30min user/pass for while you eat, but somebody screwed it up here. Right now they are giving out a single permanent user/pass combinations instead of temp ones... McDonald's, while out of my way a bit, is still a pretty convenient hotspot for me.

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    3. Re:802.11x compatible? by Wwolmack · · Score: 5, Informative

      From TFA:

      "Nintendo and Wayport will offer complimentary Wi-Fi hotspots... enabling DS owners ... to play online games with or against each other."

      The DS does not have a TCP stack and has no native support for IPv4 or IPv6 (from http://www.darkain.com/nintendo_ds/nifi.php):

      "The DS does not internally support a TCP stack or any IPv4/IPv6 communications at all. This is why the DS cannot be played online without the use of tunneling... Ni-Fi is a layer 3 protocol on top of 802.11."

      802.11x is a network layer, not a magical gateway to "Teh internets"

      So it goes to reason that the McDonalds hotspot for the DS won't support regular tcp/ip, as its a hotspot for DS users to play with each other. You probably won't be able to connect your laptop to it.

    4. Re:802.11x compatible? by wossName · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While the words "internet access" appear in the article, and in that order, there is no indication that you will be able to access the Internet through these hotspots. Think about it, why should Nintendo give you free Internet access (and risk all the legal trouble that comes with it) when the DS doesn't even have a web browser ?

      Yes the DS is already capable of ad-hoc connections, but these hotspots enable people across the country to play each other. And I'm guessing that's all they are for, as long as Nintendo doesn't say otherwise.

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    5. Re:802.11x compatible? by xappax · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The article doesn't mention anything about being able to, use the web or other internet services using your DS, only to play games using Nintendo's proprietary internet gaming servers. So, while I don't know if they will, McDonalds certainly could implement an extremely restrictive firewall that only allowed communication through ports 8483 and 10554 (for example), and also restricted outgoing traffic to a handful of DS gaming servers.

      of course, if they've got the technical capacity to provide free wifi for all devices, it certainly seems like a worthwhile "value-added" service to offer, so who knows?

    6. Re:802.11x compatible? by macshome · · Score: 3, Interesting

      IIRC, the TCP stack will be carried by the game. So while the DS OS might not have TCP/IP, the games can.

    7. Re:802.11x compatible? by mmkkbb · · Score: 4, Informative

      You wouldn't even need a list. Just filter by the first three bytes (manufacturer).

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    8. Re:802.11x compatible? by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 4, Funny

      I've heard they have created a new character to join Ronald McDonald et al. The Packet Pincher, who wears black and white and carries a sack with 'Bandwidth' written on it, is in a homosexual relationship with the Hamburglar and will be used to teach kids the danger of using bandwidth that they are not entitled to. McDonalds executives believe that the Packet Pincher will be a hit at birthday parties, as kids will be encouraged to boo him away when a costumed employee interrupts the party carrying the characters gold-coloured Laptop of Leeching and asks the kids for the latest torrents.

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  5. Nintendo and McDonalds partnered before by ChrisF79 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When I lived in DC years ago, all of our McDonalds had these little kiosks in them when the Nintendo 64 came out. There were 4 small TV's built into the thing with 4 consoles with 2 controllers each and you could try out the system there. I don't know if that was a national partnership with all McDonalds but they were in all of the ones I went in. The consoles were in there for quite a while (about 6 months if I recall correctly) and then were suddenly gone. Anyway, these two companies at least have some history of working together in the past so I'm sure that made it a little easier to get something like this set up.

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  6. WiFi from McDonald's? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    It'll be the healthiest thing on their menu :)

    1. Re:WiFi from McDonald's? by jskiff · · Score: 3, Informative

      I know you're intending this to be funny, but I find this a bit interesting (data is from McDonalds' website): Big Mac: 500 Calories Large Fries: 520 Calories Large Coke: 310 Calories Total: 1330 Calories Substituting a Diet Coke for the Coke lowers it to 1020 calories. Still a lot, of course (about half what you need for the day), but it does lower it by 25% or so.

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  7. Obesity by LaughingCoder · · Score: 5, Funny

    This could bring the obesity problem to a whole new level. Congratulations - you've reached level 4! You can go up to the counter and pick up your FREE icecream sundae! Level 5 wins a free value meal. Level 6 is a large softdrink.

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    1. Re:Obesity by oc255 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sure make fun of me, but I'm a level 4 manager with a nametag that gives me +2 wisdom when I equip it.

  8. This won't last by troll · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It'll be good in the short run, but when the table turnaround (profit/table) drops because someone is occupying that space 'playing games' and a (new) paying customer has no place to sit, McDonald's may just decide to 're-evaluate' their position.

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  9. wait wait wait by tomstdenis · · Score: 4, Insightful

    pushing crappy food and inactivity all at once? What a combo!

    What they need to sponsor are DDR competitions. Get enough people dancing and bopping, and bipping and hopping and they'll get in shape soon enough.

    Tom

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  10. It's bad enough taking children to McDonald's... by IronChefMorimoto · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...for exercise on the playground AFTER a greasy Happy Meal. Now we're just taking out the exercise and letting the kids wallow with their WiFi and Nintendos after their Happy Meals. Nice...

    IronChefMorimoto

  11. Perfect way to find other players by Alcimedes · · Score: 3, Insightful

    This would be pretty good a providing a pool of other players in about the same age group etc. for kids to play with. The only thing that bothers me is that rather than going to eat shitty food then running around in the play area, these little tubs of soon to be lard will be eating shit then sitting on their asses playing video games.

    Knowing the average parent today, as long as little Timmy shuts up, that will work just fine.

  12. The biggest joke by Colin+Smith · · Score: 5, Funny

    Using the words McDonalds and restaurant in reference to one another.

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  13. a truly sad day by jkind · · Score: 3, Funny

    Before: Take children to Mcdonalds and put them in the bouncy ball room for 10 mins, before giving children Big Mac combo.
    Now: Take children to Mcdonalds and give them Big Mac combo, then let them surf..
    The world is slowly getting so fat it's going to spin out of orbit..

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  14. Restricting access (similar to Spanish restrooms) by knopf · · Score: 5, Interesting

    It's quite simple to make money out of this: In Spains tourist lots, the restroom is looked by a numer key lock. The access code is changing on a regular basis (e.g., hourly). If you want to use the restroom, you have to buy something, because the code is automatically printed on the receipt.

    They will do the same for the wireless access. They print the current access code (user & pass) on the receipt and reset the system every 30 mins. Btw. if you think, you just buy something small, that's exactly where McD has huge margins. So a Coke or ice cream every 30 mins for surfing generates enough money for maintaining the WiFi net.

    However, it will be fun to see all gamers run for an ice cream at the same time every 30 mins :-)

  15. Cleaning? by BenjyD · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Can you imagine what a DS is going to look like after 30 minutes playing in the hands of a kid eating a Big Mac, fries and ketchup? Maybe McDonalds is planning to make a profit on with a DS cleaning service?

    Personally, I wish McDs would just go out of business so I wouldn't have to put up with that horrendous smell of grease permeating every shopping centre.

  16. Re:Wow by vrai · · Score: 5, Insightful
    I can't comprehend why anyone would want to spend more time than in a McDonald's than is required to purchase some food. The restaurants are smelly, thick with grease (even the air is greasy) and decked out in the cheapest plastic available.

    I am pretty much forced to go to McDonald's once a month (it's the only place open late in London's financial district that does take-outs). The food is better than going hungry (just) but I'd rather starve than actually eat in the "restaurant". I certainly wouldn't spend long enough there to play Mario Kart without a HazMat suit on.

  17. The End by Mr.Dippy · · Score: 4, Funny

    The Japanese, realizing that they could never beat physically fit Americans in war, have covertly set out for the past 30 years to make Americans fat. The current generation of American children will get to harpoonable size by the end of the decade. This is the final phase of their fiendish plot before they initiate their Pear Harbor Invasion Part Deux plan. I'm estimating sometime in 2011 Hawaii and part of the West Coast will be under the Rising Sun flag. Dead, bloated children and teenagers will litter the ground clutching onto their DS's and Big Macs. This is how liberty dies...with thunderous fatness.

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  18. Re:Restricting access (similar to Spanish restroom by fish+waffle · · Score: 3, Informative

    What if you happen to get your receipt ten seconds before the reset and don't make it to the restroom in time?

    Allow the current code and last code to have access: everyone is guaranteed a minimum access time.

  19. Pretty much every comment... by UnixRevolution · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Can be put into 4 categories.

    1. Arrr, MacDownaldz is teh suck and ewww! Who'd go there just for wifi?

    2. How will they keep laptops from connecting?

    3. They're gonna make people fat!!!

    4. Kids will get fat playing DS and eating Bigmacs

    Let me adress these.

    1. McDonalds, although i know a lot of people don't like it, is wildly successful and profitable, and there are a ton of people who go there anyway.

    2. From what i read, DS's don't have TCP/IP, so there won't be any TCP/IP for laptops to connect to the internet with. they'll have to translate back and forth between ni-fi and TCP.

    3. People make THEMSELVES fat. People think for themselves and make their own decisions. You can choose to have the Big Mac, you can also choose to have the McSalad.

    4. Parents are responsible for the eating and play habits of their children, not Nintendo and not McDonalds.

    That is all.

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    1. Re:Pretty much every comment... by tuffy · · Score: 3, Informative
      2. From what i read, DS's don't have TCP/IP, so there won't be any TCP/IP for laptops to connect to the internet with. they'll have to translate back and forth between ni-fi and TCP.

      The DS, as shipped, doesn't provide a full TCP/IP stack. It does provide the bottom layers for 802.11 wireless. It's up to the games to implement the rest of the stack for proper connection over the internet. And, according to some recent screenshots that's precisely what Nintendo's doing.

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  20. Ok, I'll bite by callipygian-showsyst · · Score: 4, Funny
    There are so many potential jokes here that I'm gonna just leave it to you guys to make your own.


    Help! My PC is 0wn3d by the Hamburgler!


    or


    Mayor McCheese just busted me for stealing music!

  21. DDR Competitions by GungaDan · · Score: 3, Funny

    I use RDRAM, you insensitive hamburgling clod!

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  22. No Ni-Fi! by Phantasmo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I doubt that this will be modded up, but there are plenty of trolls having a big laugh about "Ni-Fi" on Slashdot today. So let me set the record straight:
    Ni-Fi is what's used for local games. If you are at the mall with some friends and want to connect for Nintendogs or Bomberman, the DS will be using Ni-Fi. It is proprietary. It is not used for playing on the Internet.
    If you buy Mario Kart DS and you're at the mall with some friends, it will use Ni-Fi. If you stumble upon an unsecured wireless node at the mall and want to play on the Internet, the Mario Kart cartridge will fire up its own TCP/IP stack. This is how online play is going to work on the DS.
    So, Ni-Fi = LAN, Wifi + TCP/IP = Internet.

    Frankly this whole McDonald's thing is not surprising. There are lots of McDonaldses in my area with "free" (with purchase) wireless Internet access. On top of that, every McDonald's in Scarborough has at least four Gamecubes in the kids area.

    What does it mean in the end? Another reason to go to McDonald's. Damn you, with your McFlurries and your Big Macs and your Mario Kart and free drink refills...
    Aha! Free DS online play + unlimited pop for $1.50...

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