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Jack Thompson Calls Cops on Penny-Arcade

Anon1001 sent us the latest developments in the ongoing saga between Miami Attorney Jack Thompson and Penny-Arcade. So far the story goes that Jack has filed a wrongful death suit against Rock Star, claiming that GTA is a cop killing training simulator responsible for the murder of a pair of cops. He also offered $10k to charity if anyone who would develop some ridiculous murder spree game. When someone did it, and he changed his mind and Penny-Arcade donated the cash instead. All of this is being documented on the Penny Arcade website, in phone calls, rants and comics, as well as an 'I Hate Jack Thompson' T-Shirt. (Note, Slashdot's parent company owns ThinkGeek). He has now called the cops claiming harassment. Update: 10/18 17:40 GMT by Z : It seems like this confrontation has been brewing all summer. The most recent altercation is just another link in the chain made by Thompson's reaction to Hot Coffee and his crusade against the Sims 2. Further, PA has put up the scan of the letter to the cops, and a photo of the check.

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  1. Re:Wow by schon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Thompson himself started this mess.

    <imitation type="loser jack">
    No, he didn't! no he didn't! no he didn't!

    The VG cats guys started it when they replied to the email he sent them!
    </imitation>

  2. Re:Eh.... by cjm182 · · Score: 5, Informative
    He had a "modest proposal", loosely based off Jonathan Swift's "Modest Proposal (1729)" only not as well written. He offered $10,000 to charity if someone would make his violent videogame idea. Of course, he backed down after groups started to actually make the game.

    Penny-Arcade accused him of playing a "shell-game" and donated the money themselves, satisfied that Jack's orginal proposal had been satisfied to the letter.

  3. The idea was by autopr0n · · Score: 4, Informative

    He wanted to make a video game about a father who's son does something violent after playing video games. The father would go nuts and kill video game developers. He offered to donate $10k to the charity of the developers choice if the game was made. A game (actually, a GTA mod) was made, and Thompson reneged on the offer

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    autopr0n is like, down and stuff.
  4. Not sure its been mentioned here by Kirran · · Score: 5, Informative

    Though I'm sure many following this mess know about it. Jack has also recently recieved a letter from Dr. David Walsh of the National Institute on Media and the Family. In this letter (published on www.gamepolitics.com) Dr. Walsh distances himself and his organization from Jack. His comments tend to really get to the core of what Jack does, "Your commentary has included extreme hyperbole and your tactics have included personally attacking individuals for whom I have a great deal of respect." He's like a kid on a playground. Someone does something he doesn't like and he starts yelling about getting his daddy to get them, because his daddy is a cop or a lawyer. Only he is the lawyer...

  5. Re:Fascinating, but who hears it? by Yocto+Yotta · · Score: 5, Informative

    Jack Thompson:

    +Led the campaign against the 1989 2 Live Crew album "As Nasty As They Wanna Be", and later, Ice T's "Cop Killer."
    +Filed with the FCC regarding the contents of a 2003 edition of Howard Stern's radio show resulted in Clear Channel Communications being fined $496,000 in 2004.
    +Filed, in 1999, a $33 million federal products liability lawsuit against several entertainment companies, including Time Warner Inc., Polygram Film Entertainment Distribution Inc., Palm Pictures, Island Pictures and New Line Cinema, Atari Corp., Nintendo of America, Sega of America Inc. and Sony Computer Entertainment on behalf of the parents of victims of the 1997 Paducah schoolhouse shootings.
    +Most recently has taken his tirade against videogame publishers Take Two (Grand Theft Auto series, Bully et. al.), Capcom (Killer 7), and EA (The Sims. Yeah really).

    A great interview with Jack by Chatterbox Video Game Radio can be found at: http://www.chatterboxgameshow.com/jack.htm .

    This guy has really made himself a credible source for irrationality and brought many smiles to sane peoples faces.

    Most comment points excerpted from Wikipedia.org

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  6. Re:Disbarrment by LSD-OBS · · Score: 4, Informative

    He spelled the name of the website wrong anyway.

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    Today's weirdness is tomorrow's reason why. -- Hunter S. Thompson
  7. Jack Thompson interview and comments by Faust7 · · Score: 5, Informative

    You all may want to check out the ChatterBox interview with Gabe and Tycho that was done this past Sunday. Gabe talks a little about his recent conversations with Jack Thompson. Apparently the first thing Jack said after calling Gabe up and establishing his identity was:

    "Let me tell you something, idiot."

    This utter professionalism is well-reflected in the text of his fax to the Seattle police.

    "There are a bunch of computer geeks out there who think..."
    "These idiots have been so careless as to..."

    I can only imagine what some of his non-game-related correspondence is like.

    Also, this has probably been posted before, but here it is again: the ChatterBox interview with Thompson. Lunacy thrown into the sharpest relief.

  8. Re:Hah by yoyhed · · Score: 4, Informative

    Along the same lines, try the hospital parking lot in Staunton Island when you have 5 stars. There's a short fence at the top of the walls, so when the FBI cars come flying into them, they get some serious (hilarious) air before crashing to their deaths in huge piles.

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    WHO NEEDS SHIFT WHEN YOU HAVE CAPSLOCK/ DAMN1
  9. Re:Wow by GoRK · · Score: 4, Informative

    How can geeks be so smart and know nothing about tax law?

    Just because a donation is made in his name doesn't mean that he made it. To take a deduction on a charitable gift you actually have to document that you gave a charitable organization some of your money or goods of a certain value and they received it from you. In this case, PA (depending on how the company is actually structured and where the money actually came from) will probably get to take a deduction.

    The only case where a pure cash donation to charity can really be advantageous to your bottom line is if you are teetering on the edge and the deduction will drop your AGI into a lower bracket. You may also be able to help yourself if you can figure the donation in as an adjustment instead of a deduction (but this is not an easy set of rules to meet). You can also sometimes receive beneficial tax credits that when you donate in specific ways or to specific organizations such as with tsunami relief in 2004.

    A handy deduction tip: Give your old stuff away to charity instead of having a garage sale. If you are already itemizing your deductions anyway (most homeowners are in this boat) the tax savings from the deduction at a reasonable declared value will bring you more than taking pennies on the dollar from spendthrifts at your sale. Plus, you dont have to pay taxes on the income from the garage sale (since there is no income).

  10. T-Shit is fine, just like Bush or Kerry T-Shirts by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 4, Informative

    He's made himself a public figure, that makes him venurable to things like that. It's true, you can't do that to some random private citizen. If I went and started selling "I hate eln" t-shirts tp get back at you I could get in trouble (well, assuming I was using your real name that is). However we are allowed to mock public figures, be they politicians, celebrities, etc. So by going on 60 minutes and the like, he's made himself a public figure and subjected himself to this.

    The geeks calling his house and such IS harassment, but Penny Arcade isn't liable for that. Nowhere on their site do I see his contact info or directions to contact him. In fact they say "You're all asking me for Jack's Email and or phone number and I respect that. The problem is that I can't give that info out."

    As far as I can see, Penny Arcade is in the clear.

  11. Re:Disbarrment by ValourX · · Score: 5, Informative

    On the off chance that someone who is dealing with Jack Thompson reads this, here is the procedure for filing a complaint against a Florida lawyer.

    I would do it myself, but you have to be in some way involved with the lawyer (client or opponent) to file a complaint, it seems.

  12. Re:But he'd make a GREAT politician... by halltk1983 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Love the sig, and thought you might appreciate this linked article.

    Kid's Violence Levels

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    Watch for Penguins, they eat Apples and throw rocks at Windows.
  13. Make your complaints known! by NYTrojan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The florida bar association

    Center for Professionalism:

    Carl J. Zahner
    czahner@flabar.org
    Terri Anderson
    tanderso@flabar.org
    Paula Stephenson
    psteph@flabar.org
    from http://www.floridabar.org/TFB/TFBOrgan.nsf/54E05CD 1C9D5551885256B61000B58D2/AE11AE39767C4F8685256B74 00523C2E?OpenDocument

  14. Re:IANAL & YANAL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    How, pray, does an attorney get disbarred for being a loonie?

    Why, dear reader, by doing exactly what the parent poster indicated:

    "He keeps dancing around direct legal threats, because he knows what will happen."

    We tend to call that "barratry" here in the US. And yes, it is actionable.

  15. I DO hate Jack Thompson by Scrameustache · · Score: 4, Informative

    Glorifying hatered on a t-shirt is counterproductive, and reflects VERY poorly on the reasonable cause the shirt represents.

    Hatred is a human emotion. So unless you bleed green and you have pointy ears, chances are you had a taste of it.

    The shirt is an expression of how the wearer feels about a public person, the wearer could be a hypocrite and pretend he meerly dislikes, or disagrees with Thompson, but if we do hate him for consistently attacking our character based solely on our preferred passtime, and his attempt to ban our passtime, then the shirt is simply expressing our feelings in a perfectly reasonable way.

    I hate that fucker Jack Thompson.
    There, I said it.

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    You can't take the sky from me...

  16. Re:Disbarrment by HardCase · · Score: 4, Informative

    Look up John Bruce Thompson. "Jack" is a nickname.

    John Bruce Thompson

    Member in Good Standing Eligible to practice in Florida

    ID Number: - 231665
    Firm:
    1172 S Dixie Hwy Ste 111
    Coral Gables Florida 331462918
    Phone: 305.6664366
    Fax:
    E-Mail: jackpeace@comcast.net
    County: Dade
    Circuit: 11
    Admitted: 05/31/1977


    From the Florida Bar Association web site. Don't sue me, Jack!

    -h-

  17. Re:He is actually crazy by mo^ · · Score: 5, Informative

    For the sake of reference, in the UK at least, any person working with sexually extreme material (violence, paedophillia, masochism) is usually required by the authorising body to undergo psychiatric checks to ensure no alterior motives exist, or to pre-empt and issues arising.

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  18. Pot. Kettle. You don't understand tax law either. by sirwired · · Score: 4, Informative

    How can geeks be so smart and know nothinga about tax law?

    I don't know the answer to that question, but your post shows that you don't know anything about tax law either.

    The only case where a pure cash donation to charity can really be advantageous to your bottom line is if you are teetering on the edge and the deduction will drop your AGI into a lower bracket. You may also be able to help yourself if you can figure the donation in as an adjustment instead of a deduction (but this is not an easy set of rules to meet). You can also sometimes receive beneficial tax credits that when you donate in specific ways or to specific organizations such as with tsunami relief in 2004.

    1) "Dropping into a lower tax bracket" alone does not magically save you money. If you donate cash to a real charity, you will ALWAYS pay out more money than you will get back in tax deductions. The term "tax bracket" refers to your "marginal" rate. If you are in the 28% "bracket", it does not mean that you owe 28% on all of your AGI. The U.S uses what is called a "progressive" tax system. That means that you owe X% on the first $Y of your income, A% on the NEXT $B of your income, C% on the NEXT $D, etc. If you drop from $1 over the 28% line to one dollar under the 28% line (into the 15% range), you will have donated two dollars, and you will owe $.43 less in taxes, for a net cash payout (read money out of your pocket) of $1.57. Your charity dollars acutally go LESS far towards reducing your tax bill, the lower bracket you are in.

    2) Tsunami relief did NOT give you special tax CREDITS. Instead, it shifted the deduction date deadline, which let folks take a DEDUCTION on their 2004 taxes for donations made in 2005. A credit is dollar-for-dollar reduction in the check you must cut to the IRS. A deduction merely reduces the amount that tax is calculated from.

    A handy deduction tip: Give your old stuff away to charity instead of having a garage sale. If you are already itemizing your deductions anyway (most homeowners are in this boat) the tax savings from the deduction at a reasonable declared value will bring you more than taking pennies on the dollar from spendthrifts at your sale. Plus, you dont have to pay taxes on the income from the garage sale (since there is no income).

    The "reasonable value" you are allowed to deduct for used household goods is supposed to be what the items would sell for at an establishment such as a thrift shop. Unless your local Salvation Army sells stuff 3x-6x more than a garage sale (depending on your marginal rate), you aren't going to end up on top by doing this.

    Please actually READ tax law (or at least IRS publications) before giving out wacky advice like this...

    SirWired

  19. Re:I once read... by cr0sh · · Score: 4, Informative
    Yes, I would say this is true in many cases. The psychological reasoning behind it is fascinating, though it makes for a twisted form of reasoning.

    Basically, the rationale is that an individual, or a group of like minded individuals, have an attraction to something which has been deemed by the rest of society as being "wrong". To counter this attraction, these individuals seek to eliminate, in totality, that which they are attracted to. In certain cases, where the elimination of the object of attraction is not possible, they seek to make that attraction and/or the slightest expression of that attraction illegal, in the hopes that if this is so, they themselves will no longer be attracted to it, and the burden will be lifted.

    Sounds fine and rational on the surface, doesn't it? Therein lies the problem, which these individuals never dare to face: the attraction lies entirely within the realms of their own psychological makeup. Removal of the external representation ultimately does nothing to quell the attraction which lies within their minds and thoughts. If they truely thought that it would work, rather than eliminate the external sources, they would just remove themselves from societal forces entirely, either via suicide (in the extreme case), or through self-imposed isolation or exile (moderately extreme, but likely the classic method for dealing with the pains of society by individuals throughout history - is it any wonder why such practice tends to be part and parcel of most major religions?). In the case of the latter solution (because, after all, sucessful suicide would be a working solution), these individuals would quickly realize that the issues and troubles they (and others) face is within them, and can only be rectified through self-realization and self-actualization...

    Is it any wonder that this sounds like the beginning of so many religions?

    Anybody with half a rational brain can deduce this. Unfortunately, for many, they have to take the difficult route and either screw up the rest of society which has figured this out already via crazy changes to the law, or return from the wilderness after an extended stay to reveal their "revelation" to the masses (many of whom then agree and seek to follow, giving money and property at every turn) - only after they realize that it is all in their heads, and not much short of changing their worldview will change that.

    The thing is, if they would just stop what they were doing, and love themselves for who they are, both physically and mentally, rather than continuing with their self-flaggellation at every turn, the world would likely be a better place overall...

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    Reason is the Path to God - Anon
  20. Re:I tried to email him :( by admdrew · · Score: 5, Informative

    Check the dns for stopkill.com, his site... it was updated Oct 15, 2005, and the new contact email is "greytop@comcast.net". Hope that helps :)