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Jack Thompson Under Investigation

djflipstarx writes "Jack Thompson, famous anti-videogame lawyer, has found himself in the position of being investigated by the Florida Bar Association after trying to get Penny-Arcade writers Gabe and Tycho arrested. A bunch of people from the Penny-Arcade forums then went and sent letters to the FBA asking for them to check up on Thompson's current actions and review his license to practice law. The fact that even the National Institute on Media and the Family distance themselves from Thompson doesn't help his case either." The lesson here? There are many nerds in the world. Some of them have a posse. Be careful who you pick on.

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  1. What comes around goes around... by sgant · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Or is it what goes around comes around, I can never remember.

    But anyway, there hasn't been a more deserving guy than this. The guy obviously has mental problems..and I'm not saying this to say "man, dude is CRAZY". I mean mental problems as in "we the jury find Jack Thompson...".

    Maybe he'll seek some help now.

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    1. Re:What comes around goes around... by Iriel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The more that I've found out about Jackie T, the more I think he's not some self-convinced hero (Don Quixote with aggression issues), but simply power-mad. He starves for strength and control, but now I'd prefer that he stays in the public light and insane. As Mike (Gabe) said on the PA site, it's better to have some raving clown trying to get rid of games as opposed to someone actually intelligent that could get somewhere.

      Let him keep his fantasies because he'll keep going even if he gets disbarred (I guess that's how you would say it, I don't know), but there will always be more to take his place. Let's keep this monkey here so we can laugh at his nonsense instead of worry about his results.

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  2. Guess Jack is learning an important lesson... by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... that lesson being "Other people can write letters too, and they vastly outnumber you."

    Of course, I imagine that poor, pathetic, insane Jack Thompson probably imagines that he's the noble martyr in some epic battle against the hordes of evildoers who want nothing more than to poison the minds of children, and will not, for a second, ponder the possibility that maybe he's wrong.

    Jack, people you thought of as staunch allies have left you, are publically distancing themselves from you. Thousands of people are writing letters demanding that you be investigated while not a single solitary soul is writing the FBA saying you're a good guy. Most people might take that as a hint that their views are not actually meshing well with reality - hopefully you'll take this opportunity to take an assessment, get some help, and most importantly, shut the fuck up already.

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    1. Re:Guess Jack is learning an important lesson... by slavemowgli · · Score: 4, Insightful

      As Winston Churchill said - "a fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject". Jack Thompson sure seems to qualify, so there probably isn't much hope that he'll realise he's not the knight in shining armour he seems to see himself as.

      Unfortunately.

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    2. Re:Guess Jack is learning an important lesson... by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 4, Insightful
      Thousands of people are writing letters demanding that you be investigated while not a single solitary soul is writing the FBA saying you're a good guy. Most people might take that as a hint that their views are not actually meshing well with reality
      People like Jack see such things different. He'll probably assume the "majority":
      * doesn't care enough and needs him to save them.
      * is too affraid to act and needs him to save them.
      * is under the influence of these evil games and need him to save them.

      I don't think we're already rid of him. And even if he's gone, there're still thousands more, eager to replace him. Each of them equally clueless.
    3. Re:Guess Jack is learning an important lesson... by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Very true - while it is certainly *possible* for someone to mod The Sims to make it pornographic, the game itself is not. Saying that, because people can mod games to make them hyperviolent or pornographic or both is like saying that we should ban text editors because someone could write "Mein Kampf" in them.

      His using The Sims - a game that has had such huge exposure - was a critical mistake: So many of the people he's trying to reach have played it, and probably are wondering how the heck this guy can actually believe it's mind poison.

      His positions do have a tiny sliver of a kernel of value to them: Children should not be able to directly purchase hyperviolent/sexually charged video games just as they cannot legally directly purchase pornography. If a parent is willing to let their kid play those kinds of games, then let the parent purchase the game. At least that way they have *some* idea of what their kids are up to.

      But any validity gets blown out of the water by such absurdly stupid comments, such as his claiming the Beltway snipers "trained extensively with Halo," rescinding offers to donate to charity, and threatening legal action against people who have done far, far more good (albeit with far, far more profanity and fruit fucking) than he has.

      There is a discussion that can be had here, but it's a discussion that should be had between rational people who actually hope to accomplish something positive - not reactionary fuckwits who lash out blindly at things that they clearly don't understand.

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  3. Don't mess with geeks by Bimo_Dude · · Score: 3, Insightful
    ... is the other lesson to be learned.

    After all, geeks are the people who control telecommunications, energy distribution, "your computer," transportation, and most of the data in the world.

    Do you really wanna open that box?

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  4. Hurray by dtfinch · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It's not quite the "Jack Thompson committed" headline I was hoping for, but this made my day.

  5. Not really by Moraelin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "After all, geeks are the people who control telecommunications, energy distribution, "your computer," transportation, and most of the data in the world."

    All that and ... most have close to zero communication skills when it comes to making their point to a non-geek. Or even to a geek who's not already a zealot on the same crusade. So for the most part, they're safe to ignore.

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  6. More by keyne9 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Very important to note that Jack Thompson apparently did not actually fax Seattle PD. Quoth Gabe, "The fact is that Jack actually sent the fax to everyone but the intended recipient at the Seattle PD."

    If that's true, then it is a pretty serious problem for Jack.

    1. Re:More by smbarbour · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Of course he sent it to everyone but the Seattle PD...
       
        It is against the law to file a false police report.

  7. Re:Beware the self-fulfilling prophecy by FidelCatsro · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Q: What do all of these people have in common
    Stalin , Hitler ,Jeffrey Dahmer , Charles Manson , Peter Sutcliffe , L Ron Hubbard , Pin head , Jack Thompson

    A: That's right ... non of them played Violent computer|Console|video games ..

    I think we can begin to see some correlation between not playing Violent games and evil .

    Which is roughly the same argument they use to say Games cause violence and it's just as specious

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  8. Re:Jack's response to the Florida Bar by actor_au · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The problem I have with that letter is that its far too casual for a suposed lawyer to have written, especially considering that there is a slim chance his legal license may be revoked(its very very slim and we all know it).

    I'm in university(Political Science and Economics for anyone interested) and on letters to lecturers, tutors and even some students I'm at least moderately formal in my presentation and clear and concise in my meaning.

    If he is meant to be a lawyer he should include case numbers, references to his examples for verification by the Bar Association, some details of the owners of the companies abusing him and his legal actions(claim notices and numbers, filings ect) in response.
    As a lawyer he should have a clear cut break down of the relationship between himself and Penny Arcade from the first moment they encountered each other to the minute he wrote the letter.

    He shouldn't have wasted a third of the letter on some unrelated law firm with connections to George Bush as well. That doesn't fit in the context of the letter and seems to be him just trying to paint himself as a victim of a wider conspiracy.
    While it works on some people, it wouldn't work on anyone investigating the claims, his career and his future based on that contents of that letter.

    Maybe lawyers in America are just more casual in their communications than in Australia.

    Also, every letter he ever writes to the police includes the expression "Cop Killer Simulation/Simulator" when describing GTA, I think Cops know a bit more about cop killers than Jack Thompson.

    Its not that I don't think he's an idiot, I'd just like someone I could at least respect on some level at least as an opponent to Computer games.
    I still agree with the idea of stopping kids being able to play the more violent games out there, and I think most people here do as well.

    But not at the cost of banning them all together.

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