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dancpsu writes "Researchers at Temple University's College of Health Professions found that early nerve damage caused by repetitive strain injuries can trigger "sick worker" syndrome -- often mistaken for poor performance. They discovered that nerve injuries caused by low-force, highly repetitive work can be blamed on an onslaught of cytokines -- proteins that help start inflammation. Unexpectedly, the researchers also found that the cytokines affected the rats' psychosocial responses. At three weeks, even before the rats experienced pain from their wrist injuries, they began to self-regulate their work behavior. By five weeks to eight weeks, when cytokine production reached "peak" levels, some rats curled up in a ball and slept in between tasks."

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  1. A good reason to stop reading Slashdot tonight by saskboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Early nerve damage caused by repetitive strain injuries can trigger "sick worker" syndrome -- characterized by malaise, fatigue and depression"

    If this doesn't prompt you to get up from your computer and go to bed a bit earlier tonight, there's no hope for you, in other words. You'll be involluntarily curled up like a rat ball, if you don't take charge of your wrist health.

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    1. Re:A good reason to stop reading Slashdot tonight by jefe7777 · · Score: 4, Funny

      ....must

      (heavy breathing) ....turn

      (straining reaching) ....off

      (eyes watering) ....the

      (millimeters from powerbutton) ....inter...net

      (hand shaking violently) NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! my precious! evil hobitses!

      /me quickly opens 12 more firefox tabs

  2. I'm confused by confused+philosopher · · Score: 3, Funny

    When did employers ACTUALLY start hiring real rats for the rat race?

    Oh, sorry, I read the story a bit more carefully now. Never mind.

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    1. Re:I'm confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      When did employers ACTUALLY start hiring real rats for the rat race?

      Since they realized it was cheaper than outsourcing to India.

  3. How did they cause these injuries? by maxarturo · · Score: 5, Funny

    What kind of exercises give rats "wrist injuries"? Did they get little rat-sized keyboards?

    1. Re:How did they cause these injuries? by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 4, Funny
      What kind of exercises give rats "wrist injuries"? Did they get little rat-sized keyboards?

      Generally, typing up disclaimers, authoring EULA's, looking up court settlements, writing very large bills, initiating and responding to litigation, in no particular order.

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    2. Re:How did they cause these injuries? by Zordak · · Score: 3, Funny

      I thought that was sharks' work.

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    3. Re:How did they cause these injuries? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Funny

      Generally, typing up disclaimers, authoring EULA's, looking up court settlements, writing very large bills, initiating and responding to litigation, in no particular order.

      The rats don't deserve that comparison.

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  4. Personally, I'm a slaker by slaker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Personally, I'm a slaker. But I come by that naturally. My father, and his father, and his father, were all slakers. It is the way of our people.

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  5. Cytokines by Red+Flayer · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's some more info on Cytokines:

    http://microvet.arizona.edu/Courses/MIC419/Tutoria ls/cytokines.html

    I wish TFA was a little more specific on which kind of cytokines they found... I guess we'll have to wait for the human studies.

    Really, though, this should be no surprise. It's been known for some time that stress to the body results in immunological cytokine release.

    The symptoms (pre-RSS) that they mention, like depression, fatigue, etc, are eerily similar to Epstein-Barr... I wonder if the immne system is revved up by the repetitive motions (hence feeling sick), or inhibited, like the EBV toxin.

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    1. Re:Cytokines by Red+Flayer · · Score: 3, Informative

      Nope. Serum cytokines means cytokines in the blood, that's all. So that statement can be interpreted as meaning that they observed elevated levels of cytokines that are normally found in the blood.

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    2. Re:Cytokines by walders · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not really... Serum cytokines simply means that's where they measured them. They aren't necessarily specific to the blood: the cells that release them are equally capable of releasing them in tissue. These cytokines appear to be released from damaged nerve tissue.

      The significance of them being in the serum is that they are circulating and are able to have systemic effects rather than just local (e.g tissue) effects.

      They don't list the cytokines becuase the publication is a news site for medics. If the work is good enough, it'll be published in a respectable journal somewhere with details of cytokines and levels. You won't have to wait for the human study. Most rodent cytokines have a human equivalent and vice versa (with some notable exceptions (IL-8 for one)). The human study will just be ensuring that this effect does cross over.

      It isn't unusual to see cytokine release from stressed or damaged tissue. It is unusual to see physosocial effects. The key observation is that some behaviour, thought to be plain laziness or 'mental' problems, may actually be explained by more basic physiological explanations.

  6. Re:slacker or sick by Jozer99 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Not only were the rats sleepy, but their code was buggy as hell.

  7. "low-force, highly repetitive work" by BocaJuniors · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hello, Peter. We need to talk about your TPS reports.

  8. Sounds like me during Exams! by Foktip · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Damn, do those Rats go to University too?

    Repetitive strain injury is one thing, but if you combine that with ultra-stress, depression, insane workloads, and extremely difficult work... THEN you're fucked. The common term for this phenomenon is "University".

    Your hand is so sore you can barely write with it; your fingers seem permanently dented where your pencil resides.. in fact, every muscle in your body aches. Theyve been aching for so long you cant remember.. painkillers do nothing now. Youve had 8 strong coffees, your mind is numb and throbbs... Your neck is so stiff and sore... not a wink of sleep in days, yet you just couldnt fully fall asleep if you tried. Social interaction is futile - you can barely manage to utter coherent language, and most of such encounters are awkward and embarassing. All you can do is calculation, logic - the world around you seems etherally mechanical, filled with logical/mathematical portent. Youve been sitting on your bed for 12 hours straight, listening to the same song over and over, its 4AM, and nothing makes any sense anymore. Possible failure looms, watches you like a hawk - it forces you onward, mercilissly. Theres over 20 hours more material to study. The exam starts in 4 hours.

    1. Re:Sounds like me during Exams! by lahvak · · Score: 3, Funny

      Your hand is so sore you can barely write with it; your fingers seem permanently dented where your pencil resides.. in fact, every muscle in your body aches. Theyve been aching for so long you cant remember.. painkillers do nothing now. Youve had 8 strong coffees, your mind is numb and throbbs... Your neck is so stiff and sore... not a wink of sleep in days, yet you just couldnt fully fall asleep if you tried. Social interaction is futile - you can barely manage to utter coherent language, and most of such encounters are awkward and embarassing. All you can do is calculation, logic - the world around you seems etherally mechanical, filled with logical/mathematical portent. Youve been sitting on your bed for 12 hours straight, listening to the same song over and over, its 4AM, and nothing makes any sense anymore.

      I agree, I am at a University too, and I feel just like that when grading exams.

      Possible failure looms, watches you like a hawk - it forces you onward, mercilissly. Theres over 20 hours more material to study. The exam starts in 4 hours.

      Oh. Never mind.

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  9. likely story by drgonjo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Sure... the rats "self regulate" their activity because of the possibilty of damage. Please... somebody...show me the same behavior in ever crack and war crack players (I'm guilty of both). If the tendency did exist to self regulate potenatially repetive stress related injuries I'd say that their logs would confirm as much. We've got tons of human related data.. why aren't we using it instead of rats?

  10. Promising shift in user interfaces by The+Clockwork+Troll · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Here is the Institute for Interactive Research's example of clickless user interface that I hope more application developers espouse in the future.

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  11. Two words: by StandardDeviant · · Score: 4, Funny

    Middle.

    Management.

    *shrug* If they didn't hire rats, there'd be unemployed MBAs and JDs clogging up the gutters. It's as much a public health issue as anything else.

  12. Re:Rats? by ScruffyScrode · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've actually read this, it's a not-so-subtle peice of corporate propaganda. It causes the reader self doubt; and sometimes convinces the reader that THEY should change for the better of the corporation. If this peice of shit were given to me by my boss I would quit in no quiet, or kind way.

  13. Treatments? by Anonymous+Writer · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The article goes into details about repetitive work, cytokines, and work injuries. But it doesn't mention any remedies. Is the process reversible? Are there medications that can treat the production and effect of cytokines? If this is found to apply to humans, can a worker's routine be changed slightly, or would that person need to go so far as to completely change their job and lifestyle? Would they be able to fully recover?

    1. Re:Treatments? by bladesjester · · Score: 3, Insightful

      In the case of most people here?

      Try to make your workspace more ergodynamic with an ergo keyboard, gel wrist pads, proper chair height, etc.

      In addition, get a set of chinese exercise balls (the solid kind, not the hollow kind. I have several sets made of marble that I give as gifts to fellow geeks) and use them every day. After a while, you will notice a positive change in the way that your wrists feel.

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  14. Re:That explains it! by grammar+fascist · · Score: 5, Funny

    No wonder I've been nodding off at wo...Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Amazing! Your head hit just the 'z' key, and held down the SHIFT key simultaneously for the first one! And then, somehow, your computer submitted your comment. How do you do that?

    I wish I could do that.

    Anyway, more seriously: Why is this story tagged as humor? I read the article, and there's really nothing funny in it.

    Not that that stops us from taking it lightly, of course.

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  15. slackdot?Re:A good reason to stop reading Slashdot by speculatrix · · Score: 3, Insightful
    Maybe slashdot should be renamed slackdot.

    Damn, someone took the domain already.

  16. Re:Am i the only one... by softweyr · · Score: 4, Funny

    who felt just like the rats?

  17. Re:Rats? by Skater · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I had to stop reading it about halfway through because I couldn't stand the patronizing tone. I kept thinking, "Okay, I get it. I have to look for opportunities, and I shouldn't let myself get too comfortable, and I should be ready for a sudden upheaval. What's your next point?" But there never was another point - it just kept bashing those into the readers' heads. I felt like ripping the book in half.

    And I had a similar (but not as pronounced) reaction: I remembered that I work to live, not live to work.

  18. Re:That explains it! by BorgHunter · · Score: 5, Funny

    MAYNARD: It reads, 'Here may be found the last words of Matt Perry. He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the Holy Grail in the Castle of Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'.
    ARTHUR: What?
    MAYNARD: '... the Castle of Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'.
    BEDEVERE: What is that?
    MAYNARD: He must have fallen asleep while typing it.
    LAUNCELOT: Oh, come on!
    MAYNARD: Well, that's what it says.
    ARTHUR: Look, if he was falling asleep, he wouldn't bother to type 'Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz'. He'd just snore it!
    MAYNARD: Well, that's what's written in the post!
    GALAHAD: Perhaps he was dictating.
    ARTHUR: Oh, shut up.

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