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PS3 Price, Compatibility In Question
Lots of rumours out there right now about the next-gen consoles. It's in question, right now, exactly how backwards compatible the PS3 will be. Gamespot reports: "When responding to questions about whether or not the SCPH-75000's backwards-compatibility issues heralded similar problems with Sony's next-gen console, she demurred. 'It's hard to say the PlayStation 3 will be 100 percent backwards compatible but as we said earlier this year we aim to make it so as much as possible,' Sakamoto said," Meanwhile, 1up.com wonders exactly how pricey the console will be. From that article: "In the past months, the Japanese blog CoolGamer has been a dependable source of early information regarding the Japanese game market. Not once has their news turned out to be a false lead, so that's why it was pretty important today when the site updated with a small notice saying 'PS3 price set below 40000 Yen,' which is about $400 at current exchange rates."
Maybe there is something wrong with me, but I'm not very excited about PS3 or XBox360. I've seen too many console releases come and go over since the 1990's. Every single time a console comes out it usually takes about 6 months to a year before anything seems worth wild to buy and for the initial price to come down. I got a DS for Christmas and that thing was $150 and it took about 8 months for any must have games to come out for it. Now the thing is selling for something like 120-130 dollars. I should have just waited to buy the DS in July. I guess my point is that I'm not concerned about the PS3 price because if I buy one it won't be until next Christmas or even sometime in early 2007.
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Wow, speculation that the price of a next-gen technology will be about the same as the price of next-gen technology that was already announced by a competitor, and speculation that there will be minor incompatibilities with older software on new hardware.
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My venerated PS2 is getting flaky after 4 years (some games don't recognize the controller anymore, like Burnout 3). I was willing to hold off on getting a new one until the PS3 comes out, but I'm not happy to hear that months of waiting might not give me what I want after all.
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The key thing is, will it be compatible all the way back to PS1 or just PS2? I can live with just ps2. In fact, I still have my PS1, and they're only $20 used. And what about the hard drive? You're telling me decent emulator software can't run off of a hd on the PS3 hardware? I think there are guys on this site who could do better, so Sony better have this fixed prior to release.
Even the PS2 wasn't 100% backwards compatible with all the PS1 games. If the PS3 plays 75%+ of PS2 games and 50%+ of PS1 games, in my opinion that would be 'ok' with me. Even if Sony only hit those %'s it will already be much better than xbox360 compatibility with xbox games. I'm holding out on my opinion of Nintendo comparisons because they've only said it will play gamecube games, and haven't had any words on price for playing other past generation games (hopefully it will be free).
As far as the price I think PS3 will come out high, but by the holidays it should come down, as long as it comes out 6months before the holidays.
All this is just opinion with no real basis rather than what I preceive as reality.
$400 is a steal assuming Bluray Discs become the defacto HD format. Out of the PS3 and the XBOX 360, only one has a shot of playing HD video; HDCP (High Definition Copy Protection) only supports digital output (i.e. HDMI/DVI). The XBOX 360 does not have support for HDMI or DVI currently - Microsoft will have to make revisions to future models in order to play HD video. The PS3, however, does have HDMI output (in fact, it has TWO HDMI outputs) and ships with a Bluray drive already. I'd pay the $400 for the HD video player alone.
10000yen is below 40000yen, 20000yen is below 40000yen, heck 39999yen is below 40000yen. No actual figure is given, still just a bunch of speculative figures. The blog may be reliable in the past, but with vague figures like that, better take it with a pinch of salt. Just wait for the bloody announcement to come out from the horse's mouth, THEN start flaming... sheesh...
The pricing is now interesting, as one interpritation could be that Sony over-sold the fact that PS3 was going to require you to work overtime to afford so that Microsoft would debut the Xbox360 at a high price point. Now they come in at a similar price point, with a Blue Ray drive and it looks cheap. When, of course, its as expensive as it was ever going to be.
If this was a press release in a few weeks I'd definately suspect shenanigans.
I bought into the hype of PS2, how it would be an awesome console, with more polygons than your computer. I had some fun with a handful of games. This time around it will be different. I'll wait for a couple awesome games to come out, then I'll buy my system. I'll always have computer gaming and emulation to play with to tide me over. Dungeons and Dragons Online Alpha is quite fun. Action speed RPG is superior to click and wait MMORPGS of the past. I mean its not like you can't do everything you ever wanted on a PS2/Xbox/Gamecube. The only thing next gen consoles will have to offer is better graphics, which is cool and all, but I personally prefer gameplay 99 times out of a 100 over graphics. Actually if you want to get super technical, the only thing that will be developed is game house's tool software to be able to make more advanced games... Sorry, no console for me this time. I'm waiting for the games.
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I don't think there has ever been a successful launch of a modern gaming console that had an initial price above $400(US); in fact the only system that I can think of that was successful and launched for more than $300(US) was the original Playstation (at $350 if I remember corectly). Certainly, prices will increase with inflation, but only a fool would attemt to increase their price of a console at launch by $100 or more.
It's more like $350. Even google agrees. $50 is going to be quite a difference when it comes to console pricing too.
When the GBA was released, it was (and still is) touted for being able to play regular GB and GBC games. However, there were a handfull of games (I can't find the exact list right now) that were buggy or had sound problems on the GBA. This didn't matter, though, as the games were from the early GameBoy days and not that popular.
I think we'll see similar things with the PS3, with the same result. Some of the early PS1 games and a few PS2 games won't work quite right on the PS3, but as long as they aren't any of the popular games, no one will really care (except those that own the then-useless games).
Though I wouldn't mind picking up a PS3 I am probably going to hold out for at least a few years to get one. The pricing of these consoles is just ridiculous. Who has 400 bucks to drop on just a system? After that you have to buy at least a game and then what, controllers and memory cards if there is no hard drive. Not to mention games are now going to cost $60 new rather than $50. The price of gaming is getting out of hand. I wish everyone could've ran with this generation a couple of more years seeing how the best games are really just coming out now anyway. Now we will get a new generation of systems with poor games for at least a year and then maybe some decent stuff will come out. I think I'll be getting a Revolution where I can at least be assured 100% backwards compatibility, reasonably priced games(that don't suck) and a console that definitely won't be even $300.
Hmmm...I'm 99.9% certain that if 50% of the old games that you want to play fall into the 25% of incompatable games that you'll be 100% annoyed.
So does this mean the PS3 will be in that bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first against the wall when the Revolution comes?
I consider myself a pretty techie guy. But I'm not rich. I have an oldskool 26 inch tube tv (remember those?), a decent enough sound system ($250 at the time), and a sprawling DVD and video game collection.
While you generously provide the acronym meanings, that doesn't help me in knowing what the hell they are. What I'm saying Kaldaien is that you're a rare breed. I just don't see any of those acronyms and features mattering to that many people, especially the single mother looking for a video game system who just wants to keep her kid busy with video games while she cooks dinner, or any number of other casual gamers.
If you have a library of PS2 games, then surely you also have a PS2 to play them on, and don;t really NEED backwards compatibility?
I'll admit the backwards compatibility was a big influence on my decision to buy a PS2, but in reality I only used it 2 or 3 times to play old games, so this time round I'm not bothered at all.
I was actually far more impressed with (and spent more money on) the improved re-makes of N64 Zelda games for the non-backwards-compatible Game Cube.
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Both the PS3 and the Xbox360 have had questions raised about their backwards computability with the previous machines in their lineage.
This raises an question in my mind. As I understand it, the OS within the Xbox is a stripped down Windows environment, and the games are written to that environment, which is basically DirectX.
I've not seen anybody trying to hack Wine to provide that environment as a target, and I do not know if that is even possible. However, I do know that Wine has a DirectX layer that maps DirectX to APIs available under Linux.
The PS3 will run Linux.
So the question is, would it be possible to combine a modified Wine and a JIT x86 to Power compiler to allow the PS3 to run XBox games?
Because if the PS3 were to be more compatible with old XBox games than the XBox360 I would have to have my ass reattached after I laughed it off.
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Given Sony's record with DVD playback on the PS2, it's a pretty safe bet that the DVD playback on the PS3 with be plagued with bugs. Despite multiple revisions, the PS2 still has trouble with simple things like layer transitions, chapter changes, and video/audio artifacts during playback. If Sony can't even fix those simple things - things that Chinese manufacturers with far smaller budgets and few skilled laborers can do - it's a safe bet that the PS3 is going to suck for movie playback.
Well, as a long-time owner of a PS2, which is my only non-laptop DVD player, I can confidently say that I don't know what the heck you're talking about.
I've never had any problem with the PS2's DVD-playing ability--and I'm very pleased with its ability to skip the stuff regular DVD players won't (like that pesky FBI warning).
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I can't wait for teh PS3 to come out. That's the day I'm going to go out and get myself a brand new PS2 and a bunch of games for it. I hear there are some pretty good RPGs for that system.
doesn't suprise me. They all do this, what waste of money. I am waiting for the Xbox 360. so I can buy a xbox 1st gen so I can play the games I like.