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Mac OS X 10.4.3 Released

parry writes "Software Update just delivered the Mac OS X 10.4.3 update to my PowerBook. Key changes include improved responsiveness when searching in Spotlight, Safari now passes the Acid2 test, better performance for MS-DOS formatted volumes and numerous bug fixes."

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  1. What will it be for early downloaders... by xactuary · · Score: 5, Funny

    Trick or Treat?

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    1. Re:What will it be for early downloaders... by Uart · · Score: 3, Interesting

      OSX updates are usually pretty solid. I haven't installed this one yet, but I will before I go to bed (and therefore don't have to stop everything to reboot. I am always VERY confident to install Apple updates -- I personally haven't experienced any problems, except with Safari when it was still "beta" and that hardly counts.

      Yeah, there is a chance that this update will wreak havoc, but considering how responsible Apple is about these sorts of things, I can't imagine that it would.

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    2. Re:What will it be for early downloaders... by Onan · · Score: 3, Informative
      Unfortunately there are more than a few stories about OS X updates that broke peoples machines around the internet.
      I actually think that "few" is a pretty good characterization of the number of complaints I've heard about machines broken by osx updates. Not "none", but "few" seems fair. (Especially complaints that are consistent across multiple people, rather than just correlation-without-causation instances of that reboot just being the time that somebody's hard drive or power supply didn't come back up and so on.)

      The only two that I remember are a version of--I think--10.2.8 that broke ethernet interfaces on one non-current model of powermac, and a recent 10.4 update that broke fat applications (which mostly don't exist yet). I may very well be forgetting a couple, but twoish instances of very limited breakage in the span of every osx update ever released does strike me as "few".

      To directly answer your query, I've never personally had an OS X update go bad on me, but a data set of one is no data set at all.
      Certainly true. Unfortunately, the more common data set is "all the people that had problems and complained", which of course isn't any more useful for predicting failure rates.

      So while yes, there have been complaints in the past, my best judgement still leads me to happily installing updates as soon as they're available, rather than waiting for other people to guinea pig them. Neither I nor anyone I know directly have had any cause to regret this yet.

      I guess this puts me with the grandparent, sans jest.

  2. Yes, it is snappier! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... even my old Dell inspiron running Win XP is snappier now that 10.4.3 is out!

    1. Re:Yes, it is snappier! by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 5, Informative
      I had the same problem on my wife's ibook, so i disabled dashboard and spotlight (she used neither) and it got a whole lot better.

      to disable spotlight try spotless

      and instructions on disabling dashboard.

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    2. Re:Yes, it is snappier! by Mononoke · · Score: 5, Informative
      Clean off your desktop.

      Seriously.

      I had been watching Activity Monitor, and an app called WindowServer was taking vast amounts of CPU, especially during startup of other apps (things would bounce 'forever' in the doc before opening.) It wasn't a pre-binding problem either. I finally thought I might clean off my computer's desktop (there were about 340 items there, as it's both my default download folder and the place I drag images and clippings to from Safari.) I simply dragged everything into a folder that I created on the desktop, restarted for luck, and all the snappiness was back.

      WindowServer is behaving itself now, and everything loading quicker and working more as expected. I don't know exactly what WindowServer does, but I do know it hates a 'dirty desktop.'

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    3. Re:Yes, it is snappier! by skinfitz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Windows runs faster with a clean desktop too. They must have copied that from Microsoft...

    4. Re:Yes, it is snappier! by derflammenhund · · Score: 4, Funny

      Macs did have a proper file structure before OS X: it was whatever you wanted it to be. Personally, I stuck to the Applications/Documents format Apple presented me with on our first mac back in 1995. I still use this format, but the OS let you create as many subfolders wherever you wanted, so whatever organization scheme worked best for you was the one you used. Unfortunately, with OS X, and especially with the removal of things like Favorites-as-a-default, the HD icon is the only folder you see on the desktop at startup, so it's probably quite a bit more compelling to put things in there if you don't "know any better."

      I'd guess there's some compulsion to try to simply drag files to My Computer on windows machines for some people.

      As a more stereotypical guess, mac people tend to have relied on visual layouts in folders to deal with filesystem issues, so those people like to see all of their files in one view. A professor I have to deal with during the course of my job is like this; he has 400 files on his desktop, and then on top of that he keeps nested folder after nested folder of files for his class presentations on his drive. I have no clue whatsoever how he gets anything done, especially as one of his main subfolders is labled with his name.

      Ugh.

  3. Seems to work fine... by knightinshiningarmor · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I installed it a few hours ago and everything seems about right. The only problem I've had so far is in starting up Safari:

    Safari 2.0.2 (v416.12) has not been tested with the plugin PithHelmet 2.6.1 (v70). As a precaution, it has not been loaded. Please contact the plugin developer for further information.

    Any ideas on getting this working?

  4. Anyone with iTunes 5 done the OSX upgrade yet? by artifex2004 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you have, did it stealth update to iTunes 6?
    I don't want 6, yet.

    1. Re:Anyone with iTunes 5 done the OSX upgrade yet? by itwerx · · Score: 4, Informative

      I'm new to Apple and their package updating scheme, so I'm worried the update might change other dependencies or my ability to update it back to 6, later.

      There speaks a Windows refugee... :)
            Fear not! A - the iTunes updates are always separate, so if it shows up in the list just deselect it and B - it is just an app, so if you make an archive of whatever you've got then if you did accidentally grab 6 by mistake just delete that, un-archive and you're good to go!

  5. Non-iMacs using Front Row beware by rshane · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Although I've had no problems with Front Row since I upgraded my Mini, there have been several reports of Front Row failing to work for those not using iMacs (shame on you, pirates! ;)) after this upgrade. Use at your own risk.

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  6. RE: getting PithHelmet to work by KURAAKU+Deibiddo · · Score: 5, Informative

    here is probably the easiest way, since I don't know if you're using Apple's Finder or not. Path Finder (which I use instead of Apple's Finder) allows you to look at the contents of a package or app, which would be easier for this edit if you want to use the GUI all the way.

    first of all, you may want to make sure you have version 2.6.1 of Pith Helmet (the latest version). then open the Terminal. paste or type this line, all on one line:

    open "/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/PithHelmet.bundle/Contents/Info.plist"

    (this will open the file you need to edit in the Property List Editor.)

    click the triangles to expand "Root", then "SIMBLTargetApplications", and then "0".

    Change "MaxBundleVersion" to "416".

    it should look like this.

    then hit Cmd-S to save, Cmd-Q to quit, and you're all set to use Pith Helmet. i've tested it for a bit, and so far it works perfectly.

    let me know if you have any questions.

  7. NOTE: If you didn't install the Developer Tools by KURAAKU+Deibiddo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    someone brought it to my attention to that you will only have the Property List Editor if you installed the Developer Tools. not to worry, if you don't have it. all you need to do is use TextEdit (or BBedit if you have it). the command for that looks like this (again, all one line):

    open -a "TextEdit" "/Library/Application Support/SIMBL/Plugins/PithHelmet.bundle/Contents/Info.plist"

    about two-thirds of the way down, you want to change this bit:

    <key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
    <string>412</string>

    to:

    <key>MaxBundleVersion</key>
    <string>416</string>

    it should look like this (with the changed line highlighted in green.

    again, save and quit and you should be all set. apologies for forgetting that Property List Editor requires the Developer Tools to be installed in the first post.

  8. Re:Quartz 2D Extreme disabled? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Informative
    You are being confused, I think, by the fact that three technologies have very similar names.

    Quartz 2D (often just Quartz) is the 2D rendering system used on OS X. It uses a display list format that has a 1:1 mapping with PDF display lists, allowing resolution-independent UI elements to be drawn.

    Quartz Extreme was the hardware accelerated compositing system introduced with (I think) Jagwyre. Each window in Quartz 2D is rendered to a buffer. Originally, these were then composited in software. With QE, they were rendered to OpenGL textures and then composited in hardware. This allowed things like translucent windows to be drawn quickly, and made effects like Exposé possible.

    Quartz 2D Extreme moves a lot of the things in Quartz 2D into hardware. For example, each character in a font is rendered into an OpenGL buffer with Q2DE, and then composited in the window by the GPU. This makes text rendering much faster with Q2DE (assuming that the GPU is fast enough).

    Apple never advertised Q2DE. It was mentioned at the WWDC, but that is a developers conference - and developers can enable it for testing purposes. They advertise Quartz 2D and Quartz Extreme, because these are shipping features.

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  9. Re:Quartz 2D Extreme Disabled? by avalys · · Score: 4, Informative

    Quartz 2D Extreme is a developers-only feature that could be enabled for testing in previous versions of Tiger. It was never enabled by default, you had to run a special application to enable it. And it was always buggy.

    This is not the same thing as Quartz or Quartz 2D - those are still enabled. There is a post a few above yours that explains the difference more fully.

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  10. Re:Shnappy Shnappy by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 4, Interesting

    He is incorrect, as downloading is capable of being copyright infringement, which can rise to the level of a crime in the United States. But you're incorrect too. You can't use a stolen property law as a substitute for a copyright law; this was settled decades ago by the Supreme Court.

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  11. I Broke Safari's ACID2 Support by nuxx · · Score: 3, Interesting

    By visiting the ACID2 test and then scrolling downward in Safari using my Apple Mighty Mouse I'm able to break the ACID2 test rendering. Here is a screenshot of it. The face breaks and the better part of it scrolls across the page. I don't think this is the expected behavior, but I guess I may be wrong?

    1. Re:I Broke Safari's ACID2 Support by Yaztromo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Perhaps not. Part of the Acid2 test is to test various positioning mechanisms. Some are static, some are more relative. It may just be that the elements which were left behind were the static elements.

      AFAIK, Acid2 isn't really designed with scrolling in mind. I'm surprised you're able to scroll the page at all.

      Yaz.

  12. Re:Is MacGPG OK with the update? by kybred · · Score: 3, Informative
    I just ran Software Update and then tried Mail with v1.1 of GPGMail; it seems to work just fine.

    kybred

  13. Re:Shnappy Shnappy by cpt+kangarooski · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wrong.

    Copyright infringement is the infringement of any of the exclusive rights of the copyright holder, per 17 USC 501. One of the exclusive rights is the right to reproduce the work in copies, per 106(1). As it happens, the courts have generally considered the reproduction of works into RAM, hard drives, etc. to qualify, and to be infringing. The MAI and Intellectual Reserve cases are examples of this.

    This is too well settled for you to be able to truthfully dispute it. You can argue that it's dumb, but that doesn't mean that it's not the current law.

    The only question left is whether it is criminal copyright infringement, which is a subset of copyright infringement generally. Per 506(a), copyright infringement of the reproduction sort is criminal if it is willful and either a) is for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or b) involves the reproduction during any 180 day period of works with a total retail value of over $1000.

    Private financial gain is defined in 101 to include the "receipt, or expectation of receipt, of anything of value, including the receipt of other copyrighted works." That's what the NET Act added, to cover warez trading. Presumably it isn't applicable for a mere downloader. Of course, making a copy through downloading, where you anticipate someone will return the favor by making a copy of something for you would qualify. Uploading without any receipt or expectation of receipt would not. So it's more complicated than whether data went up or down, as you seemed to think.

    In any case, if the retail value of the downloaded work -- or all the downloads over the last 180 days, as your typical downloader probably downloads a lot -- is over $1000, then it is irrelevant whether or not he planned to trade warez. He's a criminal infringer anyway, if he infringed willfully.

    You really ought to try reading the statutes instead of relying on just the laws that tweak them, or more likely, the sort of gossip and hearsay that most people on the net seem to believe in.

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  14. Re:WARNING!!! 10.4.3 render iBook G4 not bootable! by carboncopy79 · · Score: 5, Informative
  15. Insight from ArsTechnica on this. by interactive_civilian · · Score: 4, Funny
    From the ArsTechnica Mac.Ach 10.4.3 thread:
    Posted by MightySpoon:

    Quote:why has apple dropped the development of Q2DX in tiger?

    To avoid potential lawsuits from Vanilla Ice.

    (Say Quartz Two Dee Extreme out loud and then try not to shoot yourself in your face. You can't do it.)

    The truth hurts, doesn't it? ;p
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  16. Re:iChat encryption - but fist you have to pay tax by (startx) · · Score: 3, Informative

    You you bothered to click "Learn More" it would have brought you to the .Mac welcome page, where it explains you can now get .Mac IM accounts for free. Yes, it kinda sucks you can't use encryption on Jabber or AIM right now, but they aren't charging you to use .Mac IM.

  17. Re:WARNING!!! 10.4.3 render iBook G4 not bootable! by coldwd · · Score: 3, Interesting
    It looks like this is not an apple issue, the user had their own version of /etc/ttys that 10.4.3 had an issue reading:

    I think I found the culprit: the updated system didn't like my version of /etc/ttys (that used to work under 10.4.2). Therefore, loginwindow couldn't start. I figured that out when adding my extensions file by file...

    I had /etc/ttys configured to open a LoginHook, and seems there somehow was an additional newline character.

    All seems to be working fine, now. Thanks for all your suggestions.

    I'd be very wary anytime I updated if I'm changing stuff in /etc. Do you have any local modifications going on that could be the cause of your issues?
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  18. Re:Shnappy Shnappy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    ...but does it run on Intel?

    Yes, in fact, it does. I've got a Developer Transition Kit machine and 10.4.3 was actually released a few weeks ago (Oct 13) on the ADC site.

    (posting anonymously due to NDA)

  19. Re:And the newest Finder Fukup is... by porcupine8 · · Score: 3, Informative
    If I were the tinfoil hat sort who looks for conspiracies, I would suspect that there is a plot to force everyone to use Column view

    No, if this were true, they'd make it easier to get windows to open in column view by default. I adore column view, but it's a bitch to get it by default. Sure you can tell it to "open new windows in column view" - but that only works when you actually choose "New Finder window" or hit command-N, neither of which I ever do. If you open a window by double-clicking on a folder or drive, it opens in some other view - anything but column. I finally found out on the Apple discussion forums that if you hold shift when you close a window, the next time you open that particular folder or whatever it will open in whatever view you closed it in. Which is nice, but until I've closed every folder that way I still have to change stuff back to column view a lot.

    Personally, I was wondering why they gave us this great new view and then made it so incredibly hard to make Finder use it.

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